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Professor Lich
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Yeah that card is crazy if it has zero drawbacks for triggering Deathrattles. Hopefully it consumes the effect. Just way to strong in the current Meta.
New cards with Deathrattle focus.
Are you shitting me? This looks a bit OP.
Double egg, then boom. GG
Professor Lich
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Don't think so. If you look at Reincarnate, it says Destroy, then bring back to life. This just says trigger Deathrattles.
Edit: So they keep the effect. That's just wonderful.
The question now is whether you have 1 or 2 copies of this card, and what would you replace it with? I'm leaning towards just 1 because it's situational, and I'd probably just run 3 secrets instead of 4. I don't think the Snake Trap + Juggler + UTH Hunter decks has space to run this.
Hmm you'd also want to run Nerubian Eggs in a deck with this but if you do that then you'd want to run 2 Feign Deaths since otherwise you may not have a way to activate the Eggs.
Hmm you'd also want to run Nerubian Eggs in a deck with this but if you do that then you'd want to run 2 Feign Deaths since otherwise you may not have a way to activate the Eggs.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It actually seems more like a midrange hunter card than aggro tbh.
I like the paladin card. Not sure if it is good enough to just throw into any control paladin deck though.
Lil' exorcist only requires 1 deathrattle minion on board for it to be worth playing and a 3/4 taunt seems pretty good at the 3cc point. 2 deathrattle minons make it a 4/5 with taunt so a better senjin for 1 less mana. It does look like a good counter to deathrattle decks. If UT is buffed twice, this thing is bigger. If no UT is even pulled, how can a deathrattle deck even hope to win?
I like the paladin card. Not sure if it is good enough to just throw into any control paladin deck though.
Lil' exorcist only requires 1 deathrattle minion on board for it to be worth playing and a 3/4 taunt seems pretty good at the 3cc point. 2 deathrattle minons make it a 4/5 with taunt so a better senjin for 1 less mana. It does look like a good counter to deathrattle decks. If UT is buffed twice, this thing is bigger. If no UT is even pulled, how can a deathrattle deck even hope to win?
Haunted
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WHAT THE FUCKNew cards with Deathrattle focus.
Professor Lich
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Actually, the proper response is, "Oh, goody!"
New meta same as the old.
Haunted
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Mobius and pet octopus
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I feel like you guys are overreacting. What deathrattles (that hunter runs right now, at least), perhaps besides highmane, are actually worth triggering on a consistent basis? Leper gnome for 2 damage? Spawn some 1/1s from haunted creeper? Draw a beast off webspinner? Sludge belcher?
If you're clearing board it is gonna be hard to get multiple deathrattles to go off. If you aren't clearing board, you've probably already lost anyway. If you planned on aoe, that plan probably isn't going to change.
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Hence why I think it is more of a midrange card that relies on some card draw so they can use these kind of situational cards.
If you're clearing board it is gonna be hard to get multiple deathrattles to go off. If you aren't clearing board, you've probably already lost anyway. If you planned on aoe, that plan probably isn't going to change.
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Hence why I think it is more of a midrange card that relies on some card draw so they can use these kind of situational cards.
Mad Scientist for drawing AND playing a free secret, Loot Hoarder for double draw, Webspinner is good enough as effectively a double draw. This doesn't even include the new GvG minions with Deathrattle that may be coming out. It basically fixes Hunter's only problem which is lack of card draw.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I did forget about mad scientist, but it is only playing a 2 mana card to get a random 2 mana secret out. With webspinner you're cycling a 2 mana card to get a random beast. Not bad, but not terribly strong either. If you get both of these, you get value, but how often will that happen?
Haunted
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It is a situational card, yes.
But it's so easy to imagine all kinds of disgusting synergies with it. 4/5 Baine Bloodhoof for 2 mana. Free Sylvanas mind control for 2 Mana. So many free secrets with Mad Scientists. Double Leper Gnome for pretty much guaranteed 4 mana 8 face damage. Plus whatever else is on board in each of these cases without weakening your own board state.
Honestly, you don't even have to try and find a place for this card in the current aggressive Hunter meta. Feign Death is so strong that a new meta will build around it.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I'd imagine hunter wouldn't run cairne over highmane at least.
It is a card that is actually a bit comparable to reincarnate though. 2 mana, free sylvanas mind control... great in shaman? It's okay. If you can trigger it off multiple deathrattles, sound goods though.
Mobius and pet octopus
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What deathrattle minions though?
Haunted
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Reincarnate is the closest comparison, yes, but triggering on one minion with Deathrattle or all minions with Deathrattle is the difference between Holy Smite and Consecration (at the same mana cost, though Reincarnate has the usually small benefit of also healing the minion).
And a well-placed Reincarnate combo can already win games. Imagine what Feign Death can do.
Early game? Two Haunted Creepers and a Mad Scientist.
Late game? A Savannah/Sylvanas and a Piloted Sky Golem.
Did HUNTER of all classes seriously just get an AoE Reincarnate for 2 mana
Only 2 days after the abomination that is Gahz'Rilla
Are you fucking shitting me Blizz
They're not even trying to balance this cancer class anymore
Just baffled
(Late reaction because I somehow thought green was Druid and didn't bother)
Only 2 days after the abomination that is Gahz'Rilla
Are you fucking shitting me Blizz
They're not even trying to balance this cancer class anymore
Just baffled
(Late reaction because I somehow thought green was Druid and didn't bother)
Mobius and pet octopus
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Early game? Two Haunted Creepers and a Mad Scientist.
Late game? A Savannah/Sylvanas and a Piloted Sky Golem.
I feel like that is a bit of a stretch to have 2 haunted creepers and a mad scientist up all at once. If that is happening, you've probably already lost either way unless you have an AOE clear coming already, in which case the 4 extra 1/1s are just gonna die anyhow.
I think it has more of a role in a midrange deck since you can play some stronger deathrattle effects and trigger it before your opponent can clear.
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reynad's opinion is "unplayable"
https://twitter.com/AndreyYanyuk/status/538053105511055361
This is kind of what I am concluding. I don't think it is completely unplayable but more along the lines of reincarnate where getting huge value is going to be too situational so the card may not even be played.
MonorailCat
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Are there some VODs of the dreamhack games today?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Mobius right now:
I actually just believe it isn't a good card, or at the very least not a great card.
edit: I am almost convinced it is a bad card but maybe some new deck will make it playable.
Professor Lich
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I think the issue, at least in my mind anyway, is that Undertaker/Deathrattle Hunter is already strong as is. Without seeing any wind of an Undertaker nerf along with a card that could make the deck even stronger is really damn annoying. I would also expect that Blizzard receives a ton of complaints about it and this could be seen as ignoring those people.
Ayyyy
Yeah Nozdormu is worthless, de and keep the dust until G&G imo. Ysera isn't going to get nerfed anytime soon so you might as well de her too.
Keep Noz until you're really sure of what the meta is going to be like after GvG and are absolutely sure you know what you want to dust it for. Feign Death is a Hunter-only card.
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