That still makes him worse than pretty much any other 5 drop though. I can drop a Loatheb at any time, and he'll be good. I can drop a Sludge Belcher or a Spectral Knight and they'll be good. If I top deck a Bolvar he's just an overcosted Mogushan warden. He requires a significant amount of effort just to be mediocre. The times he'll even be better than Feugen are going to be rare.
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That still makes him worse than pretty much any other 5 drop though. I can drop a Loatheb at any time, and he'll be good. I can drop a Sludge Belcher or a Spectral Knight and they'll be good. If I top deck a Bolvar he's just an overcosted Mogushan warden. He requires a significant amount of effort just to be mediocre. The times he'll even be better than Feugen are going to be rare.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Since there is no vote, maybe all the rest of the cards will be revealed tomorrow and then launch announced for the 9th.
Sure, make another legendary that makes the hero ability cost 1 mana instead of 2.
I can actually see this happening.
Stormwind Recruiter
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Decrease the cost of your hero power by 1.
1/4
Mobius and pet octopus
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I already recruit enough dudes, it is becoming a sausage fest. Make the recruiter recruit female recruits instead.
I'd hate to see it removed too easily. Maybe make it a weapon.
Then you have some more interesting game balance, because you have to decide whether you want to hold your recruiting weapon or hit with it so you can use truesilver.
Heck, Warlock and Priest already have cards that permanently alter their hero power. Give the Paladin one.
Of course, it would need balancing, but we're not talking about summoning a 6/6 for 2 mana.
Hero Skin: Yrel (Paladin)
Replaces your hero power art with qt female Draenei paladins.
Replaces all weapon art with Draenic weaponry
$5
Devotion Aura - 2 mana
Whenever a Silver Hand Recruit is summoned, it gains an additional +1 health.
Brofist
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And auto spams "I will hunt you down" 5x each time you hero ability.
Professor Lich
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This place is starting to remind me of the Battle.Net forums again.
ShinNL
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I have to say that I don't think I've seen anyone making so many posts that I disagree with. Every single post of johnnsmith seems like a Trump-like wrong prediction to me. Gahz'rilla will rule and Bolvar will see play. Of course aggro players will try to use it and fail hard, but it will fit perfectly in my giants deck. It fits way better in my theme since:
1. I hold cards all the time to enable them later (Molten Giant, Mountain Giant).
2. For me, it will act like a semi-giant, the kind that makes the opponent "OMG, he has another big dude after dealing with two giants".
3. When I don't draw faceless, this one will act as a semi-faceless for my Molten Giant, Sunfury, Faceless comeback combo.
4. Awesome bait removal for hardly any mana, making sure my giants will rule even more.
5. My board control is about weakening incoming attack damage while using recruits to stall, so losing board control early is part of my plan. Making Bolvar grow fits this strategy.
1. I hold cards all the time to enable them later (Molten Giant, Mountain Giant).
2. For me, it will act like a semi-giant, the kind that makes the opponent "OMG, he has another big dude after dealing with two giants".
3. When I don't draw faceless, this one will act as a semi-faceless for my Molten Giant, Sunfury, Faceless comeback combo.
4. Awesome bait removal for hardly any mana, making sure my giants will rule even more.
5. My board control is about weakening incoming attack damage while using recruits to stall, so losing board control early is part of my plan. Making Bolvar grow fits this strategy.
Congrats. You'll be one of 2 people using him. You're playing a giants deck that's not handlock. You obviously don't care about what's the community decides is good and enjoy coming up with your own strategies.
Maybe you'll even win a few games. I actually lost to a Gruul once so anything is possible. Still never lost to a Thaddius though.
Maybe you'll even win a few games. I actually lost to a Gruul once so anything is possible. Still never lost to a Thaddius though.
Haunted
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4 mana spell "Military Training" -> Hero Power summons Argent Squires instead of Silver Hand Recruits.
Professor Lich
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It's also the start of the new season. Most likely you're seeing higher-ish ranked people.
Then it's out of the player's control. I don't know if that would be better or worse, but I like how he is as of now.
I'm still half and half. I agree with Mobius that people put a bit to much wieght into Legendaries while also agreeing that the best ones do something when played. It's all going to come down to how the new cards pan out.
Given how they want it to be competitive (RNG overload notwithstanding) you'd think this'd have been a priority.
RumblingRosco
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I was not aware this was a thing that could happen:
Had 3 secrets on my hero then a mad scientist died.
I've had five before as a Mage when I made a troll deck with all that secrets and secret-related cards. So goofy looking. They'll have to change it eventually or put a max on the number of Secrets at one time.
As long as you win more often because of maylgos than you lose it doesn't matter.
I've been reading up on it a bit and the advantage it has over Violet Teacher or HAHA is that you can use Sap for tempo or removal since your win condition ignores taunt. It's like freeze mage in that way.
I like the flavor but bumping them up to 2 health doesn't do much. It only makes them a little more useful against mage and rogue hero powers. For most minions, they're still just 1 damage.
That's pretty good. You'd definitely see a lot more blood knights out there.
I was thinking 2/1, but I'm not sure if that's too good. Then again, the problem is paladins are pretty weak right now, so... well, yeah.
Also Druid and the Paladin mirror. Warlocks couldnt use them for mortal coil. Remember how much stronger Novice Engineer was when it was a 1/2? If you play it again, you'd also get 1/3s. Pretty crazy. AND it would also work on Muster for Battle.
The suggestion of giving them Divine Shield would be downright overpowered, and it wouldn't stack either.
Told you right down to the Freeze Mage comparison
What kept you from becoming a believer was having the M-God in your collection.You found a list yet? I've been running 4skin's from that Viagame house cup thing and it's pretty good. It includes an Assassin's Blade and two Blade Flurries instead of a second Fan and in my experience that added damage is key against the healing classes. If you can hold onto a Prep a 6 damage Malygod Blade Flurry only with the hero power knife clears just about anything.
Yeah I'm planning on playing 30% gay's deck hereTold you right down to the Freeze Mage comparison
You found a list yet? I've been running 4skin's from that Viagame house cup thing and it's pretty good. It includes an Assassin's Blade and two Blade Flurries instead of a second Fan and in my experience that added damage is key against the healing classes. If you can hold onto a Prep a 6 damage Malygod Blade Flurry only with the hero power knife clears just about anything.
http://gyazo.com/f79b3dd109f79e32be0a724253a34eef
I was also looking at superjj102's deck but it's... weird
http://imgur.com/lSvJfF7
edit: ok it's outdated, he's streaming now and he has a different deck. Looks like the difference between his and forsen's is that forsen cut off Shivs for Edwin & Assassin's Blade
Yeah I just compared the old one to 4skin's, I really don't like dropping both Shivs personally, it's much more versatile than Fan. Most of the the time you'll either use it to cycle or snipe 1 HP Huntard drops or 3/2s with Thalnos, which Shiv lets you do on turn 4 instead of 5. Fan only rarely gets good value and the same thing can be accomplished with double Blade Flurries. Edwin can be so good when you need the board to tide you over until Gadgetzan miracles or for Conceal all ins when your draws just suck, and Assassin's Blade is just insane in general.
Forsen might have updated his as well by now, I should probably check his stream later.
Wisp is secretly op in arena Rogue, free combos for days
Also doubles as a sick Questing combo, make your own Edwin
ShinNL
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Snarky? Unfortunately for your argument's sake people actually do try my decks since I post them on Hearthpwn and I do get positive comments from those who try them. I'm so sorry I'm not a popular streamer or someone who only copy the top 5 decks of the week and decide that those are the only decks viable in the meta. I'm sorry I like to think how to counter the meta myself, card for card. I'm sorry I'm not like you trying to belittle anyone who isn't playing with the flavor of the month and brags how awesome I am for 'piloting' it.
I'm sorry I've been playing a mill Rogue giants control deck lately. T_T
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Professor Lich
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GET HYPE
That's... actually a decent neutral anti-secret card.
Do whatever you enjoy doing but get off your goddamn high horse about your deck building skills already when you've never even taken one of your creations beyond rank 10.
Professor Lich
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I WAS RIGHT..... kinda
Also, this is pretty sweet.
Should probably stop posting images in here though since some people don't want to be spoiled, just a heads up.
Also, this is pretty sweet.
Should probably stop posting images in here though since some people don't want to be spoiled, just a heads up.
There goes the "Hearthstone is perfectly balanced, we will never change cards post release".
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