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Lol someone finally said it
I am reserving judgement since on paper it could work for Shaman thanks to strong spells and board control on top of nerfs to Zoo. I will wait and see. Knee jerk reaction is it sucks however.
Best cards in the new set have to be Lightbomb and Iron Juggernaut.
I like the new Druid cards but it comes down to how confident you are in your control. The new legendary is insane in the right circumstance as well.
At best it's just a giant missed opportunity for Shaman players.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Makes sense doesn't it... Its really another mediocre combo. I really expected more.
Shit tier class Legendary is a shared position between Shaman,Mage and Paladin. I think the Mage inches out the rest though. Its a Wargolem that screams "Hey keep your removal, cause your opponent just topdicked me"
Officerrob
Banned
IMO, Hunter (as if it needed it), Priest, and Warrior got the best class cards in GvG. Paladin, Shaman, and Druid got fucked
Mobius and pet octopus
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Don't forget the vitality totem. Opens up control being a lot more viable and control shaman is actually pretty good if you can heal up.
My kneejerk reaction is that it is a waste of a good class legendary and maybe a class card with that other minion. Obviously it stings more because I like the class and was hoping for something different, not a legendary that is likely useless outside one specific niche deck.
Love that card. That is legit good.
Druid actually got some pretty good cards for ramp and the new legendary is great too.
Also a 2 mana 2/3 or 3/2 taunt.
Trump don't know if Seal of Light is actually playable lmao. It's easily the best 2 mana spell in the expansion, and one of the best spell for paladins ever. Claw isn't comparable because druid has a tons of options to remove creatures cheaply whereas paladin has to wait the 4 mana spot and die to rush all the time. Seal of Light allow your paladin deck to actually not autofold to extreme rush decks.
Druid got some good cards,the epics suck,though.
cursedDice
Member
So I counted up the Class cards to see what the rarity distribution will be within the classes.
It seems to be:
Common: 2 per class
Rare: 3 per class
Epic: 2 per class
Legendary: 1 per class
So that equals 8 class cards per class.
I am basing this off the card list on the GvG facebook page found here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.810275045681932.1073741864.498467596862680&type=3
However, for the life of me I can't find the 2nd common warrior card. The only one I can find is Warbot. Maybe I've just been staring at the complete spoiler list on Facebook too much. Anyone know what the 2nd common Warrior card is?
It seems to be:
Common: 2 per class
Rare: 3 per class
Epic: 2 per class
Legendary: 1 per class
So that equals 8 class cards per class.
I am basing this off the card list on the GvG facebook page found here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.810275045681932.1073741864.498467596862680&type=3
However, for the life of me I can't find the 2nd common warrior card. The only one I can find is Warbot. Maybe I've just been staring at the complete spoiler list on Facebook too much. Anyone know what the 2nd common Warrior card is?
True that one's really nice, but that's one good card out of how what, eight? New legendaries are all over the place but most have some uses even if it's only in dream scenarios. Neptulon? Straight up worthless if you're not playing Murlocs, and it's so out of the left field too. It's reasonable that the Warlock legendary is demon oriented as that's an archetype they've been working towards making viable for a while now, but literally no one has ever thought about playing Murloc Shaman because it simply makes no sense given their kit.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
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BlackBuzzard
Banned
Hunter has the best epics.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
https://twitter.com/CM_Zeriyah/status/539913870383398913
"time of release?"
"We'll start in the mid-morning PST, no exact time at the moment."
I don't think it neptulon is worthless outside of murloc decks, but probably not ran over other cards. I mean, it does add 3 cards to your hand, and doesn't draw you closer to fatigue.
"time of release?"
"We'll start in the mid-morning PST, no exact time at the moment."
I don't think it neptulon is worthless outside of murloc decks, but probably not ran over other cards. I mean, it does add 3 cards to your hand, and doesn't draw you closer to fatigue.
Officerrob
Banned
The trend of most of the epic cards being shitty continues for some unknown reason
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Trump calls Echo of Medivh bad, confirmed best card of GvG.
I prefer it this way. Makes decks cheaper in dust value across the board.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Handmage.
partyphone
Banned
sucks for arena. unless you're druid.
Officerrob
Banned
I hear ya, just seems odd
How so? Power being concentrated among rares/commons will normalize games across the board.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I just speed-reviewed all the cards in the time it took trump to talk about one:
Eh, it seems like you'd be vastly more excited about a standard 1 mana deal 2 damage spell like holy smite or arcane shot. This is clearly a tier below those in terms of early game removal, not only does it cost 2 instead of 1 but you're also taking face damage. Best case scenario is probably a net heal of 1 since you have to A) be damaged already and B) hit something small. Most of the time you use it on turn 2, you're probably taking damage.
The other use is that it can also be a survival card in the late game, heal 4 and deal 2 damage to face. Obviously you would rather have a holy light here though.
It's saving grace is that it can be functional in both situations. Whether that's good enough to be a commonly played card, I dunno. Like you say, it might be necessary, but I'm definitely not excited about it.
Epics are in a weird spot where they need to have powerful effects to be better than rares, but can't be too good or they will eclipse legendaries. So they tend to be weak bodied minions with strong effects, strong bodied minions with drawbacks, or powerful spells that are highly situational.
partyphone
Banned
i mean when an epic comes up you dont get excited unless you picked druid. it should be good getting an option of 3 epics.
Mobius and pet octopus
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For some reason trump doesn't like claw as well. I personally love that card in my druid token deck. It allows me to cheaply produce minions off violet teacher, counters a turn 1 undertaker when going second completely and you come out ahead 1 armor. When combo'd with hero power it is 3 damage for 3 mana, plus 3 armor so it works as removal in a variety of situations.
I also used it to proc counterspell before using FON+SR against a mage.
I also used it to proc counterspell before using FON+SR against a mage.
man, card overload. Initial impression for each class:
Druid, my god the legendary is awesome for a control deck. It just keeps coming. The rest of their cards seem... ok ish. Tree of life is interesting for a ramp/control deck.
Hunter, some of the best cards in the set and will push hunter into an entirely new philosophy. Great.
Mage: I think mage has the potential to be one of the premier mech decks mixing tempo mech with burn to close out the game.
Paladin: A strange mix of great and terrible. muster for battle, shielded mimibot, and seal of light all look good. It's worth pointing out that mech aggro early drops are more offense oriented (2 health) and so shielded minibot will be for more outstanding against new decks than it would be against current decks.
Priest: Voljin is insane. One of the best class legendaries I'd say. Will be part of every single priest deck going forward. And shrinkmeister is also crazy. Not sure what to think of light bomb yet.
Rogue: some of the weakest cards in the set in my opinion. Sabotage and auto barber are kind of cool.
Shaman: really disappointed with the shaman cards. Shaman was my favorite class starting out and they get murlocs? bleh. Crackle looks okish though and vitality totem is outstanding.
Warlock: A lot of sweet cards that don't make sense in current warlock decks. I will have to ponder this one far more
Warrior: Also got some of the best cards. Bouncing blade is amazing, crush is interesting, and just some really beefy mid game minions that are also mechs. Makes me wonder if mech control will be a thing.
Hunter, Warrior, Priest: A
Druid, Mage, Paladin B
Shaman C
Rogue D
Warlock ???
Druid, my god the legendary is awesome for a control deck. It just keeps coming. The rest of their cards seem... ok ish. Tree of life is interesting for a ramp/control deck.
Hunter, some of the best cards in the set and will push hunter into an entirely new philosophy. Great.
Mage: I think mage has the potential to be one of the premier mech decks mixing tempo mech with burn to close out the game.
Paladin: A strange mix of great and terrible. muster for battle, shielded mimibot, and seal of light all look good. It's worth pointing out that mech aggro early drops are more offense oriented (2 health) and so shielded minibot will be for more outstanding against new decks than it would be against current decks.
Priest: Voljin is insane. One of the best class legendaries I'd say. Will be part of every single priest deck going forward. And shrinkmeister is also crazy. Not sure what to think of light bomb yet.
Rogue: some of the weakest cards in the set in my opinion. Sabotage and auto barber are kind of cool.
Shaman: really disappointed with the shaman cards. Shaman was my favorite class starting out and they get murlocs? bleh. Crackle looks okish though and vitality totem is outstanding.
Warlock: A lot of sweet cards that don't make sense in current warlock decks. I will have to ponder this one far more
Warrior: Also got some of the best cards. Bouncing blade is amazing, crush is interesting, and just some really beefy mid game minions that are also mechs. Makes me wonder if mech control will be a thing.
Hunter, Warrior, Priest: A
Druid, Mage, Paladin B
Shaman C
Rogue D
Warlock ???
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Light of the naaru can target the hero so you have a consistent way to get the lightwarden and a face heal.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Oh my god, Light of the Naaru combined with Auchenai dude.
Deal 3 damage to a creature, summon a Lightwarden.
Heck, you can also deal 3 damage to your opponent Hero for guaranteed Lightwarden summon.
Deal 3 damage to a creature, summon a Lightwarden.
Heck, you can also deal 3 damage to your opponent Hero for guaranteed Lightwarden summon.
Officerrob
Banned
They should of just unveiled an entire set of class cards every other day based on vote. They could have then sprinkled in the non class cards on the days between the class cards. Seems like a much better plan than dumping half the cards like this
There definitely seems to be some rarity inflation from the old expert set. Assuming the Hearthpwn list is accurate, It'll take 63400 dust for GvG, whereas 106120 got you the original set(not counting promos). That's about 60% for 50% as many cards. Most of the increase seems to be Epics, while Commons got the shaft.
partyphone
Banned
i'm probably going to spend all day trying to make rogue work, get frustrated and just play warrior.
Claw tends to be a dead draw late game and at best it is 1/1.
With the advent of mechs who knows. How useful it will be.
As far as secrets go. Now that a secret stealer simply exists means a lot less headaches in the future when dealing with secret decks.
What nerf. What are people talking about. What?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Well he was really just discussing to say the new paladin spell heal/+attack card isn't good.
I haven't thought about claw in the context of post-gvg myself.
acutioneer = 6 mana
soulfire = 1 mana
flare = 2 mana
those are the changes coming with gvg.
Its anti-synergy. If the mine blows up before you can use Alexstrazsa on the enemy hero, than Alexstrasza loses a huge part of her utility, and she turns into a self heal only. So the optimal play is Alexstrasza first, then mine blows up. Which means you are probably looking at hoping to play Alex on curve, which doesn't always happen. I just don't see how Alex, Iron Juggurnaut, and Grommash all fit into the same deck. These cards step on each others toes.
I guess this was buried in the launch hype.
Eh. Miracle will live even though it's going to be a chore to play. It already runs Malygos successfully, and that is the slowest variant in existence.
partyphone
Banned
seems super dead. it was already marginal. especially on ladder.
i think it's healthy for the game but i'll definitely miss it. the mana addict version was particularly fun.
i don't know where rogue winds up now. she still has some of the best early game removal so maybe a more mid-range deck will be better now. a lot of 2 health mechs out there that will die to backstab or SI.
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