Are you running 2x Feign Deaths and do you feel like both are necessary? And are you getting value out of Steamwheedle Sniper? Was watching Nox play Control Hunter and he struggled to find uses for the Sniper.
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Are you running 2x Feign Deaths and do you feel like both are necessary? And are you getting value out of Steamwheedle Sniper? Was watching Nox play Control Hunter and he struggled to find uses for the Sniper.
NEVER DE GOLDSSSSSSS
That's my motto. Like you said, you'll be playing the game for years and opening hundreds of packs. And out of all of those packs MAYBE the only golds you will ever craft are naxx, and even then doubtful.
I never have and never will blow up a golden. And my legs are Baron Geddon and Thermaplug.. uggh.. although a thermaplug from a sneed did cement the game for me last night.
Disenchanted my golden Nozdormu after the expansion. Don't regret it at all. Got myself King Mukla to go in with my Control Hunter and Mill Druid deck. I'll also disenchant golden epics that are not useful to me, like Stealth Assassin. 400 dust...why not? That's 1/4 a legendary or an entirely separate, much more practical epic haha.
I'll worry about golden cards after the collection itself is complete. And when I say complete, I don't necessarily mean have ALL the cards... In the end, I don't care about having Nozdorumu or Nate Pagel (the only reason I haven't disenchanted the latter one just yet is because I think he's hilarious). Just all the cards applicable to my decks.
Golden Velen I kept though. AWESOME card.
I have Malygos too. I played a gimmicky deck where Malygos survived turn 9. Turn 10 came, I played Velen, Mind Blast, and Holy Smite to face. They BLEW UP and it was so, so satisfying. But I really need to work on my Control Priest. I have 2 Cabals, so I think I'll just be using the Shrinkmeisters out of the expansions.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I wish shrinkmeister was only -1 attack so as to not make cabal shadow priest so brokenly OP...
I'm running x2 Feign Deaths, yeah. I feel it is necessary only because I have so much Deathrattle in my particular deck.
x2 Webspinner
x2 Haunted Creeper
x2 Explosive Sheep
(x1 Loot Hoarder) -- Been swapping this one in and out
x2 Highmane
x2 Sludge Belcher
x1 Sylvannas Windrunner
To me, the combination of Webspinners, Loot Hoarders, and Feign Death makes up for Hunter's severe lack of card draw. But its synergy goes beyond that purpose, justifying the second addition. Today I planned to test with only x1 Feign to see if the second isn't totally necessary, but just based on the games I've played so far, I was sure glad to have both.
As for Sniper, I've learned to save him for turn 4 at the earliest. If I can use my hero power to snipe off at least one minion, I get value. (-1 of their minions, -1 of their spells to remove the sniper.) In many cases so far, I've had Steamwheedle on board together with bigger threats (Highmane, Sludge, etc.), which usually get prioritized over the sniper. In that event, I'm free to continually use the hero power for at least one to two more turns. So I think he has to be played wisely to get good value. I'll wait to use him to until I can guarantee that I get 1 snipe off with him. If that much happens, I'm satisfied. In fact, I'm kind of glad to see them use removal on a 2 cost minion. Gives my bigger threats (Highmanes, Krush, Gahz, Sylv, etc.) a better chance at lasting.
RumblingRosco
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Winning it too
Yes, I still remember! Damn your Leeroy Shaman
You'll be damning my Shamurloc now. I'm 100% winrate with it so far in Ranked.
Only played one match.
NEVER DE GOLDSSSSSSS
Disenchanted all my golden cards to craft Vol'jin. Golden cards have no value at all, but Vol'jin is cool.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a turn where it would be worth playing. Turn 4, I guess. But then it is basically just a slightly cheaper Stormpike Commando. Late game it's sort of worthless as that 2 damage likely isn't going to affect the board enough. 2x Pyros plus a lot of cheap spells like Hunter's Mark and Arcane Shot are better Gahz triggers that also bring a lot of value in the early game too.
I made a Rouge deck and it is kind of hilarious
Cold Blood x2
Deadly Poison x2
Blade Flurry x2
Eviscerate x2
Sap x1
Annoy-o-Tron x2
Bluegill Warrior x2
Goblin Auto-Barber x2
Haunted Creeper x2
Mechwarper x2
Cogmaster's Wrench x1
Harvest Golem x2
Wolfrider x2
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil x2
Mechanical Yeti x2
Sprint x2
It isn't very successful but so much burst damage.
Cold Blood x2
Deadly Poison x2
Blade Flurry x2
Eviscerate x2
Sap x1
Annoy-o-Tron x2
Bluegill Warrior x2
Goblin Auto-Barber x2
Haunted Creeper x2
Mechwarper x2
Cogmaster's Wrench x1
Harvest Golem x2
Wolfrider x2
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil x2
Mechanical Yeti x2
Sprint x2
It isn't very successful but so much burst damage.
Remember that Sniper isn't about mana advantage, it's about card advantage. Hunter has trouble with card draw as it is. Using Arcane Shot to remove a Knife Juggler is a 1 for 1 trade, with slight mana advantage. Using Sniper is a 1 for 0 trade, with slight mana disadvantage. I believe for Hunters, the preservation of card usage is more important. It's also a minion, meaning it has the potential to last, or at least provides immediate threat for removal, usually forcing out a removal card itself. That's 2 for 1. I'll take it.
Remember that Sniper isn't about mana advantage, it's about card advantage. Hunter has trouble with card draw as it is. Using Arcane Shot to remove a Knife Juggler is a 1 for 1 trade, with slight mana advantage. Using Sniper is a 1 for 0 trade, with slight mana disadvantage. I believe for Hunters, the preservation of card usage is more important. It's also a minion, meaning it has the potential to last, or at least provides immediate threat for removal, usually forcing out a removal card itself. That's 2 for 1. I'll take it.
I see where you're coming from but when you have to answer a Knife Juggler with 4 mana you're usually in trouble.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Changing Ysera's mind is fun though
Some minds are not meant to be changed.
It seems like Blizzard took a wrong turn.
Thanks for this by the way it's pretty awesome. Some cards are still slotted at their old mana cost but it's just to let you know since you can still track them anyways.
AntiFacebook
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How come that when you use Shadow Madness to get control of a minion,it can attack right away?
I realize that the card would have been completely useless otherwise,but there is nothing in the card's text that suggests it should happen.
When you use mind control or cabal shadow priest,you need to wait a turn in order to attack, so no reason for Shadow Madness to behave differently.
I realize that the card would have been completely useless otherwise,but there is nothing in the card's text that suggests it should happen.
When you use mind control or cabal shadow priest,you need to wait a turn in order to attack, so no reason for Shadow Madness to behave differently.
"Gain control" seems to mean no rest, and "take control" seems to mean the minion has to sleep for a turn. It's stupid.
Xamtheking
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Shadow Madness grants Charge, guys
Don't get your knickers in a bunch
Also, Shadow Madness is actually a buff on the card itself, so if you silence the minion you took, it goes right to your opponent's side again
Professor Lich
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Forgot to mention, while Doomsayer is hilarious to get from a Shredder, Patient Assassin is probably one of the best to get. I know there are better 2 drops out there, but it's nice to get that late game.
Well, as you said, the card is completely useless if it didnt. That's the reason Shadow Madness behaves differently. With Shadow Madness you are taking control for just a turn. With Mind Control or Cabal Shadow Priest you get it for good. I don't think Blizzard should be writing encyclopedia entries on their cards.
AntiFacebook
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Yeah, but the text on the card should leave no room for a doubt as to how it works.
Professor Lich
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You have a point, but right after the first time you use it, you learn how it works.
I don't think I've played any card game where every single card has text that isn't open to possible interpretation.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Well, it's 8 mana, which is around the cost of your Ysera or any other 4 health legendary, and it takes two minions. Seems fine to me right now.
There are way too many questionable card wordings in HS for a game that prides itself on its accessibility
The burden of knowledge is real
When you compare it to Mind Control it's pretty fucking insane. 8 instead of 10 mana while you also get an additional 4/5 and 3/2. It's similar to Sylvanas + Reincarnate in that regard, which is absurdly powerful in a Vacuum but fine in regular play because Sylvanas and to a lesser extent Reincarnate don't fit into Shaman's game plan. The thing with Shrinkmeister and Cabal is that both cards are so versatile that most Priest variants would run them regardless, so we'll have to see if it becomes a problem. At the end of the day it's still a conditional play.
RumblingRosco
Member
They just need to add "...and give it charge." and that'd solve it entirely.
Professor Lich
Member
I find it somewhat hilarious that Mind Control was 8, which got switched to 10. Now Shamans and Hunters can trigger Sylvanas for a Mind Control for 8. Priests can now take a lot more with Shadow Priest for 8 mana too. Granted, it all takes two cards instead of just one, but in the long run it's funny to see it happen like that.
My haul from about 40 packs I bought with gold:
Malorne - Golden
Gazlow
Toshley
Recombobulator
Tree of Life
Feign Death
Echo of Medvih
Cogmasters Wrench
Ancestors Call
Anima Golem
Bouncing Blade
Crush
Shadowboxer - Golden
Implosion - Golden
Unstable Portal
2 Shieldmaiden
Can't say I'm disappointed
Malorne - Golden
Gazlow
Toshley
Recombobulator
Tree of Life
Feign Death
Echo of Medvih
Cogmasters Wrench
Ancestors Call
Anima Golem
Bouncing Blade
Crush
Shadowboxer - Golden
Implosion - Golden
Unstable Portal
2 Shieldmaiden
Can't say I'm disappointed
Awesome. That's a great idea! I really hope we can get atleast 8 people from here to get something of a group stage.
That's great, thank you! So we're currently at three. And for everyone who might consider it's just about having fun and experience a tournament like setting. So if you want to compete/stream/cast please let me know
.Servbot #42
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Ha this just happened, the dream is real. To be fair he did went AFK after i played that minion but still.
I went 5 wins three times and 6 wins once out of my four arenas, and all of them were halted by an endless torrent of mages with a gazillion removal cards at the end since apparently once you get to 5-6 wins the only people left to match against are mages.
I suppose.. I approach this game as a CCG though and not as F2P. Just like I'd go out and by the physical CCG card I needed/wanted, I'll buy it here also.
For those curious, once you have a complete common/rare/near-epic collection (assuming standard ratio of legs in there also), a $70 bundle will get you ~3600 dust. So around 1.9¢ per dust. $50 bundle is ~2.0¢ per dust. So crafting a legendary will run you ~$30-32 depending on what bundle you buy (of course getting the leg in that bundle changes that dynamic greatly also)
Was finally able to craft Sylvanas this morning with the 1450 dust I had saved plus DE two gold GvG cards that I wasn't going to use. Gold cards are cool but I rather have a card that I'll actually use.
The inconsistency in the card text is silly, but it doesn't bother me. Just something to keep in mind of.
Going to plop another $60 into this game and craft whichever cards I'm missing. All I need now is the Android release and I'm set.
The inconsistency in the card text is silly, but it doesn't bother me. Just something to keep in mind of.
Going to plop another $60 into this game and craft whichever cards I'm missing. All I need now is the Android release and I'm set.
The Mage will always be solid. The easy access to removal, when other classes rarely have any will always keep them up in Arena. The common cards are too good in an arena setting.
I ran Warlock twice and went out 0-3 both times. I couldn't get a board advantage for anything despite playing on curve perfectly a few games.
Priest in Arena is rocking right now. I went 8-3 with a deck that had no card draw and only no solid late game. It was all about smart trades and healing up the board.
Light Bomb is a fun card, it's a cheap Twisting Nether when you're behind.
Shrinker is awesome for making great trades and making use of your hero ability. It allows for some cards to go 3 to 1 easily.
Valen's Choosen... I didn't get to play it, but I got rocked by it several times. A Valen's Choosen Light Well is a game I will never forget. Fuck that.
It's worth mentioning the Reincarnate combo requires a card you will only have one copy of in your deck, whereas Cabal+Let'sgetphysical can be used in more opportunities. I think it's time to make "Control" effects silenceable.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I hate going 6-2 so, so much.
Absolutely, the Priest combo is strictly better for a variety of reasons, even if the Shaman one leaves you with a second Sylvanas which is arguably stronger - in a vacuum. I definitely wouldn't say it's time for any nerfs yet though, the expansion just released yesterday. If everyone starts playing Priest I'm sure Blizzard will address the issue
by buffing Hunter.
it is broken. yes. I seriously am not sure what Blizz was thinking with it.
Kolento used it yesterday and got a 0 mana Flame Imp, so although you can get some good cards, there are also shitty ones.
Xamtheking
Member
A free shitty minion is still a free minion
Even Pit Lord is good with Portal
Now, Unstabling a Molten Giant...
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