Little Nemo
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Yeah, it's definitely on my top 5 list of cards that are going to get nerfed. Hold on to your dupes for extra dust.
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Yeah, it's definitely on my top 5 list of cards that are going to get nerfed. Hold on to your dupes for extra dust.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It might be too strong for arena, but I wouldn't hold your breath for a nerf based on that. I don't even think it is too strong for arena, and there would be many cards ahead of it on that list if they ever consider it.
It is only a 4/4 for 5 after all. It can only be buffed on your turn so short of explosive trap or the lock having a weapon from blingtron and smashing face into a minion, you're going to be spending at least 1 extra card (like flame imp) or hero power to make it worth while. For at least 6/7 mana just to get a 6/6. Granted, buffing it twice in a single turn is the dream to make it an 8/8.
In constructed it seems alright. I haven't seen people use it since the old handlock is still favored. I seriously doubt they'll nerf it based on its performance in constructed so far.
partyphone
Banned
i actually think it's kinda bad. you can't really play it on curve.
it's good in arena for the same reason a lot of cards are good in arena: if your opponent doesn't have an answer it just snowballs out of control.
it's good in arena for the same reason a lot of cards are good in arena: if your opponent doesn't have an answer it just snowballs out of control.
Cards will never be nerfed based on their performance in arena. And certainly not a Warlock card, when Warlock is still extremely weak in Arena. Floating Watcher is pretty horrible on curve anyway, it has to be played on Turn 7 and even then it's kinda like a Frostwolf Warlord unless it survives a turn.
Demonlock still struggles because Handlock and Zoo are still so much better. Like Voidcaller is probably straight up OP but it requires 6 high-powered demons or more in order to really work, and any demonlock deck still can't compete with handlock, because the huge twilight drakes and giants are stronger than the demons.
Demonlock still struggles because Handlock and Zoo are still so much better. Like Voidcaller is probably straight up OP but it requires 6 high-powered demons or more in order to really work, and any demonlock deck still can't compete with handlock, because the huge twilight drakes and giants are stronger than the demons.
Mobius and pet octopus
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At first I thought voidcaller was OP. But if your hand has answers to whatever they throw down, its really just average if you play it right.
If you can somewhat control when it pops due to cards like sludge belcher, its hard for them to get a lot of value out of the summoned demon.
Voidcaller has its moments though. I've played with it a bit and getting a doomguard on your turn, and then faceless on it... that is very powerful.
partyphone
Banned
it's hard to build a deck around voidcaller because there are only two of them. really need another card with a similar effect. a lot of the demons with good stats have a downside when you play them so if you never draw your voidcaller you're just playing a really shitty zoo deck.
The way I see it is, Voidcaller is OP, but the cards that take advantage of it are only average on their own. So while Voidcaller is OP, your deck is is weaker overall. Doom Guard is really strong in zoo but demonlock doesn't aggressively push for an empty hand like zoo does, so it's weaker in demonlock. The only other pulls you may want are Jaraxxssus or Malganis I guess. Dread Infernal is okay, but there are better 6 drops.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Weird, I just won a consecutive game and didn't earn a bonus star 
I was disappointed because it was vs aggro mage and I am have particular difficulty staying ahead of their burn mid game.
I think voidcaller in the right deck is not a zoo deck. It is either a midrange or control.
The demonlock deck I played pre-gvg was actually quite good. Just not as good as handlock, plus I didn't care enough for it (still don't own jaraxxus to make it complete as well). Malganis is a neat addition to the deck archetype but I haven't tried it out yet.
Also, cutting soulfire is gonna make its end game more consistent. Dark bomb will be good enough.
I was disappointed because it was vs aggro mage and I am have particular difficulty staying ahead of their burn mid game.
I think voidcaller in the right deck is not a zoo deck. It is either a midrange or control.
The demonlock deck I played pre-gvg was actually quite good. Just not as good as handlock, plus I didn't care enough for it (still don't own jaraxxus to make it complete as well). Malganis is a neat addition to the deck archetype but I haven't tried it out yet.
Also, cutting soulfire is gonna make its end game more consistent. Dark bomb will be good enough.
Control Warlock will never be a thing. The hero power doesn't give you any power in a long game, and that's the strongest thing about warlock. Even Handlock is more of a high-powered midrange deck than anything. It puts out large threats faster than any control deck can.
poppedcollar69
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good old 1-3 arena run
Mobius and pet octopus
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The shadowform rogue is real (yes, I lose the power to dagger up)
homeworkfilms
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I wonder if there is any solution to what I see as the round 1 arena problem of facing any deck possible. I am sure they have some way of measuring deck quality and it would be nice to see so better pairing in arena so decks could compete on their relative quality rather than on your overall wins on a run.
I should add at least for say the first 3 games/wins... then maybe open onto the playing field.
I should add at least for say the first 3 games/wins... then maybe open onto the playing field.
I've gotten like 2-3 of my pack legendaries from bad arena runs, it's weird.
Reckful and tides were trying it out on stream a few months ago. Haven't seen it recently though.
Anti-zoo tech.
The shadowform rogue is real (yes, I lose the power to dagger up)
this is the type of stuff I love to see in Hearthstone
Mobius and pet octopus
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Many spam aggro decks.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I wish that were true
Yeah it's effective if you're seeing a lot of that sea giant variation of zoolock.
Funny story, actually...
My board was Dr. Boom and a Sludge Belcher. He took the Belcher. D=
It's a mystery
Been adding MC Tech to a lot of decks due to all the zerging going on these days.
Mage and ofc hunter which is still stupid as ever. Hunter litterally requires zero brains to play. Toss out whatever you have and go for face. And just hope your opponent isnt able to stall you quick enough. Which will be 90% of the time due to how fucking ridiculous Undertaker is.
I do not like that the games are taking a lot longer.
Decided to try a mech Druid for something different. Suddenly I am only matched against mech Druids. WTF
toddhunter
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You can activate Sylvanas without killing her, which is where the fun is.
But even if it gets silenced, that still is a target that you "must" silence. I think people often miss that when they think of cards that are easily countered. Sure you can take them out of your deck, but that just means something else is getting the business done to it, and it probably doesn't have a 5/5 body.
Countering Dr Boom? Yeah I don't know with the current decks. You just see it too much that there has to be a shift to counter, even if people start running mind control tech + BGH or flame leviathan.
We are still in that happy period where everybody is playing Mage, but lots of people have no idea how to play the deck properly so you can still win most of the time.
It won't take long until it is like the people playing Hunter who play terribly and win anyway
I have the same problem, I want to farm my golden portraits but it just feels bad to instaconcede so I just do my dailies and whoops I'm rank 1-5 at the end of the season and now I get to start the next one at a high rank again so I don't get a chance to face newbies.
What on earth is the point of farming a golden portrait? It seems like a lot of mind-numbing work for no reward. I actually respect people with golden portraits significantly less, I think it's silly that they either stifiled themselves by playing only one class, or went crazy and decided to farm.
Because that's the only other tangible reward from playing ranked after you've gotten legendary.
Minsc
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I don't know how accurate it is to say it's silly people only play one class if they have a golden portrait. I mostly play Shaman because it was the class I felt I had the strongest cards in from when I started, but I play everything except Warrior and Paladin mainly, as I'm missing the class legendaries for those two.
Still, I have 300+ ranked wins on my Shaman, and I only play at most a couple of ranked games a day. It's inevitable that in another 6-12 months (or a little longer), basically everyone will have golden portraits without even trying for them, because even I will have them and I don't play all that much.
People stick to a couple classes because they tend to have the best set of epic/legendaries for a couple classes I think, and the golden portraits just come on their own naturally.
Hows it a reward if you just concede to farm newbs?
Golden portraits have never been an indicator of skill, they just mean that you've spent a lot of time playing a class so why not grind it out in the most efficient manner?
FiveSix4Three
Member
Dr. Boom knocked me out in my last two arenas.
That's some luck.
That's some luck.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
Member
Yeah, I'd go through Naxx since you're guaranteed to get cards that are used quite a bit across many decks even after GVG (Sludge Belcher, Undertaker, Loatheb, Mad Scientist, etc).
It's almost scary how easy it is. It actually saved me in a game versus a Zoo deck as Mal'Ganis popped out when I had 1 life left.
Demonheart later and I had won.
SquiddyCracker
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322 wins on my Pally, I think I might reach 400 before the end of the year, and then next year I'll have my beautiful golden recruits.
I play Control Hunter, lol. Should have clarified.
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