Mobius and pet octopus
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Sapping a minion to death does trigger deathrattles.
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Servbot #42
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So if Dr boom gets nerfed i can get the 1600 dust i spent to craft him back? Really? Man i hope that happens because after some careful consideration Ragnaros the Firelord just seems more useful overall.
What do you run? I have had pretty good luck with this deck, a variation of a really cheap deck by trump:
People always seem to say dump ooze, but I personally get a ton of value with it. Being able to even just burn a 1 durability 3 damage weapon is often a big help.
Glavezooka is a wonderful weapon, buff a minion and allows you to get board control. I use it almost exclusively on enemy minions unless I'm going or setting up for leathal.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Dr. Boom is probably the best single card in the game atm. At least the most versatile in deck building.
TetraxShards
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When a card is nerfed and you then disenchant it, you get back the full dust value it would cost to craft the card. If you have the gold version, then it's CHING CHING BAY-BEE! I pulled a gold Eaglehorn Bow the day after it was nerfed, got 800 dust. I crafted Voi'jin from the dust I got from two gold Flares when they nerfed that.
When Leeroy Jenkins was nerfed, I got a Black Knight. First game I drew him, he killed an Ironbark that had had Mark of the Wild casted on it.
Well Its also a very different playstyle from basically everything else.
And it requires some skill to pilot.
Yep. It's probably always best to disenchant at this time too. Then you can wait to see if it does make the card unplayable - if it doesn't you still have the full dust to re-enchant it and if it does you can then enchant whichever new legendary is flavour of the month.
Even better then Troggzor?
Minsc
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I still feel Rag is really not as good as it looked on the opponent's board that game when you lost, when it's in your hand.
It was the first legendary I crafted myself, and it generally underwhelms me since it's so RNG dependent. When you need it to clear some big minion it misses (hits some 0/2), when you want to recover from Aggro it's near-useless, when you want it to hit face it misses too. At least with Dr Boom, it comes out a turn earlier, and having the 3 minions that can attack is so much more useful (Flametongue Totem / Savage Roar / targeted attacks).
I got that from a GvG before Boom, and I'd say for sure yes. Troggzor is only 6/6, so if you're behind it's completely worthless. It's a good card for if they have no board, but if they have anything generally it's not too resilient.
TetraxShards
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I'd put Troggzor in the same tier as Ysera, he's a "win more" card. He's good because he basically forces your opponent to trade, but if you're behind he's not that hard to play around. The fact he doesn't die to BGH is probably his biggest strength.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Troggzor? I have seen that card like twice since release and I would bet one time was from unstable portal and one time was from control warrior just trying it out.
Dr. Boom? What class, deck, or deck archetype haven't I seen it in?
...Freeze mage? Maybe....
It fits in aggro decks, midrange decks, control decks... it is more ubiquitous than sylvanas ever was and that card was nerfed for being used too often at 5 mana.
partyphone
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I took boom out of my ramp druid deck because he was the only bgh target. put in Sneed's and it's going a lot better. it's a sticky minion so he has pretty good savage roar synergy and I was running any other 8 drops anyway.
RumblingRosco
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Correct. But, if you don't plan to use the dust right away, never disenchant your cards. If a card is nerfed later on, you can disenchant it then for bonus dust. So say you disenchant your two extra copies of a common card today and get 10 dust goal. If the rare chance that your cards are nerfed later occurs, you can disenchant and get 80 dust instead.
I have tons of duplicates I've never disenchanted because I don't need the dust yet, but some day I can hope that a big nerf hits some of these duplicates and I can reap the benefits.
I didn't DE my Leeroy when it was nerfed. It was still playable in Aggro Paladin at the time. Then I pulled another one in a pack 2 days after the point where I could full dust him =(
Servbot #42
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Interesting.....maybe i have watched too many funny hearthstone videos where rag has hit the enemy hero for the win. What would you say it's a solid legendary to craft in case Dr. boom gets the nerf stick?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Really depends on your deck. Right now Dr. Boom is a safe pick cause it fits in almost everything but the most fringe decks that don't run any minions at all which is mostly freeze mage atm.
I don't think dr. boom might fit in a burn shaman, for example, but since burn shaman isn't really a thing, I wouldn't worry about that.
TetraxShards
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Minsc
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Definitely a solid legendary, obviously it's always hitting something for 8 when you play it. With Rag you have to worry a lot more about what happens after you play it than Boom. I've seen people Faceless my 7/7 Boom after I play it, if it had been Rag I threw down and had it hit them in the face for 8, my opponent's newly made Rag could kill what I thought was going to win the match for me, and now cause me to lose myself if I didn't draw a hard removal after playing Rag the turn before.
Servbot #42
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I like to play druid like a lot, that and mage. If Dr. Boom does get hit with the nerf i'll consider getting artonidas for mage or maybe craft the druid legendary.
That guys seems like such a douchebag, seriously. My perception was only more confirmed when i learned that he got banned from Magic for cheating.
Yeah what you're saying makes sense.....maybe i'll just get a class legendary if the nerf stick hits.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hearthstone deck tracker somehow got better. It always had a replay viewer, but it was kinda janky and didn't really relay the information well. But now... the guy added a visual component you can use to pretty much watch the game happen the way it was played. You even see what card your opponent drew and when. I think the only thing you don't see are cards that were never played and the mulligan of your opponent. Here is a screenshot of the replay tool now.
TetraxShards
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Am I stupid and missing something?
It says "When your hero takes damage"
So I used this, equipped a weapon, attacked an 8 attack minion, took 8 damage....and nothing happened. What the fuck.
Secrets don't trigger on your turn.
Secrets only activate on your opponents turn.
Am I stupid and missing something?
It says "When your hero takes damage"
So I used this, equipped a weapon, attacked an 8 attack minion, took 8 damage....and nothing happened. What the fuck.
It doesn't :/
Yea I know. Silly. A lot of Hearthstone's mechanics aren't really explained.
FormallyFamicom
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Only a visual cue in game where the secret covers up on your turn.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Bah, double posted by accident
Anyway, hearthstone deck tracker download : https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
He is generally a nice guy. Sure there are a couple videos where rag really fucks him over and that is far from the only one. I've seen tons of streamers react harshly to bad RNG. Reynad is just known for it though. People love to point out his saltiness and it doesn't even really bother him.
He got a temporary ban from magic for some stupid shit when he was a younger and they coerced a confession out of him. I actually believe that happened cause when you're young and being accused of something bad and you're given the option to contest it or admit to it and take a lighter punishment, its hard to stick by what you know to be true especially when the odds are that stacked against you to begin with.
Anyway, hearthstone deck tracker download : https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
He is generally a nice guy. Sure there are a couple videos where rag really fucks him over and that is far from the only one. I've seen tons of streamers react harshly to bad RNG. Reynad is just known for it though. People love to point out his saltiness and it doesn't even really bother him.
He got a temporary ban from magic for some stupid shit when he was a younger and they coerced a confession out of him. I actually believe that happened cause when you're young and being accused of something bad and you're given the option to contest it or admit to it and take a lighter punishment, its hard to stick by what you know to be true especially when the odds are that stacked against you to begin with.
The secret lights up when it is your opponent's turn, and turns off when it's yours.
They used to activate on your turn, but it was a bit OP.
The secrets sort of "light up" during your opponents turn, but I've been in your position where I thought my Ice Block would save me from my own Ysera's Awakening and it instead ended in a draw.
Mobius and pet octopus
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The keyword tooltip things says secrets activate on your opponent's turn as well.
CarbonatedFalcon
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So I just got milled by a mage with something like 8 Coldlight Oracles. He almost killed himself.
Was interesting to say the least.
Was interesting to say the least.
Am I stupid and missing something?
It says "When your hero takes damage"
So I used this, equipped a weapon, attacked an 8 attack minion, took 8 damage....and nothing happened. What the fuck.
Once upon a time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdpuCin53Y
TetraxShards
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Those were the days, Tinkmaster and Nat Pagle were in every deck, Warsong Commander gave EVERYTHING Charge (Giants Warrior was a thing), Novice Engineer was a 1/2 and Pyroblast and Mind Control were 8 mana.
Still the thing I miss the most =(
Mobius and pet octopus
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Recycle is pretty damn cool. I've been messing around with my own version of ramp which replaces wild growth with grove tender (hence the obvious name would be Grove Ramp or Grove Tender Ramp).
I played a match against face hunter where recycle would have just flat out won me the game except he got a cloakfield off his clockwork gnome. But recycling a highmane just would have been a win.
The Grove ramp itself focuses on 5 drops since ideally grove tender on turn 3 jumps me to 5 mana on turn 5. I still have a second 3 drop (spider tank atm) and 4x 4 drops (2x chillwind yeti, 2 keepers). I don't have dr. boom so the deck is obviously not complete and I chose rag over cenarius along with all the ancients for my end game (sylvanas + TBK a given).
I played a match against face hunter where recycle would have just flat out won me the game except he got a cloakfield off his clockwork gnome. But recycling a highmane just would have been a win.
The Grove ramp itself focuses on 5 drops since ideally grove tender on turn 3 jumps me to 5 mana on turn 5. I still have a second 3 drop (spider tank atm) and 4x 4 drops (2x chillwind yeti, 2 keepers). I don't have dr. boom so the deck is obviously not complete and I chose rag over cenarius along with all the ancients for my end game (sylvanas + TBK a given).
My god I made the other guy give up fast. Turn 1 Avenge, Turn 2 coin into Muster for Battle, they killed one of my guys and he surrendered. Its arena, you shouldn't give up that easily!
Edit: And now in game 3, me and a Paladin are in a top deck battle that has been going for a good 10 turns. Finally won with a bit of RNG, Mad Bomber hit him for the face the 1 time I needed to secure the game.
Edit: And now in game 3, me and a Paladin are in a top deck battle that has been going for a good 10 turns. Finally won with a bit of RNG, Mad Bomber hit him for the face the 1 time I needed to secure the game.
Is there a resource that shows all old versions of a card? It would be interesting to see how some cards used to work. I think the first Nerf that happened when I was playing was Dark Iron Dwarf
The hearthstone wiki works, though you sometimes need to dig a little.
Some of the old stuff sounds hilarious. Alexstraza + 0 mana charge...really. Didn't realize Twilight Drake used to be Battlecry: Gain +1/+1 for each card in your hand either, that's fucking nuts.
I love rolling 5 - 7 with spell damage totem =D Usually ends up turning the whole match around for me.
Mobius and pet octopus
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The alexstrasza charge thing was pretty broken. Equip gorehowl, pass, alexstrasza, charge, all face for the potential to 30-0 that turn.
Also broken was dropping into molten giant range, playing warsong commander (which gave all minions summoned charge), then playing molten giant for free, hit face, bounce with brewmaster, replay, bounce with brewmaster, replay, play second molten giant...
So you get 3 giant hits to the face, plus 2 brewmasters = 30 damage.
Stratosphere
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As a newcomer, should i be buying classic or gng packs with my gold?
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