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That happened to me and I was pissed until the gvg pack I got from arena had two legendaries, one of them golden.
The shittiest runs always give the best packs
Servbot #42
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It would obviously be better if it also buffed 1 attack minions that were summoned, but that would be crazy OP. Can you imagine the Unleash the Hounds combo alone? Not to mention it would be in every single Paladin deck.
It is fairly obvious why the card works the way he does. If they did do the change you asked cards like Muster for Battle would have to completely change and suddenly you get tons of value out of Paladin Hero power. Let's not forget Imp Master too.
The limits of the card are on purpose and it can still be very good in the right deck.
Fixed1979
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I have Hobgobblin in one of my Paladin decks and he occasionally works quite well, though more often than not he gets targeted quickly or I don't have a good hand to match with him and unless you can use his synergy it's a terrible 3 drop.
If he buffed anything other than card played minions he would be incredibly overpowered.
Jumped into the new season last night with a Priest deck, first time I've really played that class since the very start (first class I played), most likely it was because I started out against weaker players/decks but I went on quite a streak (starting with 4 back to back priest matches). I almost forgot how fun the class can be, so many options available for clearing any single minion to complete board clears.
If he buffed anything other than card played minions he would be incredibly overpowered.
Jumped into the new season last night with a Priest deck, first time I've really played that class since the very start (first class I played), most likely it was because I started out against weaker players/decks but I went on quite a streak (starting with 4 back to back priest matches). I almost forgot how fun the class can be, so many options available for clearing any single minion to complete board clears.
call_kotaku
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Maybe hobgoblin has a place in warrior decks, where he can buff both armorsmith and acolyte, but I'm hard pressed to see it ever displacing one of the other cards, especially with value cards like shieldmaiden and boom being added.
The only good hobgoblin deck imho is the druid one because token druid is completely viable even if you don't draw hobgoblin. The other ones are pretty fucked if you never draw it or it gets destroyed without getting value.
Yeah Brian Kibler has been laddering up with a Hobgoblin druid deck. Looks pretty fun but I haven't gotten any Hobgoblins from packs yet
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think neptulon is pretty awesome for shamans. Its kinda like sprint that draws only murlocs and not from your deck. The fact that it doesn't thin your deck means you won't be running into fatigue damage faster - which can happen with sprint in long control matches. Oh yeah, it also gives you a 7/7... pretty damn good imo. edit: Well probably a sketchy choice now because of how many people run dr. boom making neptulon really BGH bait.
Al'Akir is solid as well. Although being expensive you'll have to often watch your overload to make use of him effectively.
I wouldn't prioritize thalnos. You can build solid shaman decks without thalnos. Most of my shaman decks don't include thalnos in fact. Thalnos isn't worthless in shaman, but I don't think he is key either.
Just a quick Rundown of Neutral Legendaries (sorry if I missed a few).
High Tier:
Dr. Boom
Ragnaros
Sylvanas
Mid Tier:
Harrison Jones
Black Knight
Bloodmage Thalnos
Situational Tier:
Malygos (Spell Rogue)
Grommash Hellscream (Warrior Staple)
Tirion Fordring (Paladin Staple)
Baron Geddon (Warrior Staple)
Vol'Jin (Priest Staple)
Alextrasa (Freeze Mage, Warrior)
??? Tier:
Sneed's Old Shredder
High Tier Legendary cards are a big reason why control has reemerged in the recent expansion. You can see them in multiple decks as well throughout the meta.
Mid Tier is meta dependent
Harrison is a gamble but can win you a game if used correctly and is a decent body to boot.
Black Knight is also meta dependent but with the popularity of Sludge Belcher it is always a value tempo card with the added benefit of being a yeti.
Bloodmage Thalnos is a spell damage card that pays for itself and is cheap enough to combo with a spell. VERY helpful in rogue decks and not a bad card in general. Sadly in the current meta he has kind of fallen off.
I have no clue where to classify Sneed's. People seem to like it from what I have seen online. Pretty expensive though. I am leaning to it being garbage tier compared to the other shredders.
I am excluding Naxx legendaries since they are rather easy to obtain and Naxx pays for itself for anyone just starting the game.
High Tier:
Dr. Boom
Ragnaros
Sylvanas
Mid Tier:
Harrison Jones
Black Knight
Bloodmage Thalnos
Situational Tier:
Malygos (Spell Rogue)
Grommash Hellscream (Warrior Staple)
Tirion Fordring (Paladin Staple)
Baron Geddon (Warrior Staple)
Vol'Jin (Priest Staple)
Alextrasa (Freeze Mage, Warrior)
??? Tier:
Sneed's Old Shredder
High Tier Legendary cards are a big reason why control has reemerged in the recent expansion. You can see them in multiple decks as well throughout the meta.
Mid Tier is meta dependent
Harrison is a gamble but can win you a game if used correctly and is a decent body to boot.
Black Knight is also meta dependent but with the popularity of Sludge Belcher it is always a value tempo card with the added benefit of being a yeti.
Bloodmage Thalnos is a spell damage card that pays for itself and is cheap enough to combo with a spell. VERY helpful in rogue decks and not a bad card in general. Sadly in the current meta he has kind of fallen off.
I have no clue where to classify Sneed's. People seem to like it from what I have seen online. Pretty expensive though. I am leaning to it being garbage tier compared to the other shredders.
I am excluding Naxx legendaries since they are rather easy to obtain and Naxx pays for itself for anyone just starting the game.
Alexstraza is situational legendary. Only control warrior and freeze mage regularly run it. It occasionally sees play in other decks, but it's far from a "stick in any deck" legendary.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hahhah... priest... why do you sometimes play wild pyro turn 2.
Love autobarber rogue.
Just had someone instant concede when I dropped autobarber turn 3. I was expected him to coin dark cultist as priests love to do in which case I had autobarber + deadly poison.
Love autobarber rogue.
Just had someone instant concede when I dropped autobarber turn 3. I was expected him to coin dark cultist as priests love to do in which case I had autobarber + deadly poison.
Why would you concede in this situation...
Mobius and pet octopus
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I'd imagine losing a card for free is incredibly hard to come back from as a priest. I mean, I did kill his 2 cost minion for 1 mana and zero cards. He probably realized he was not going to win that.
I wouldn't concede there but that was a huge set back in the match up.
TimeEffect
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Whats a face?
TimeEffect
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^
Thanks -_- lol
I finally used that pesky little 3 point robot card that switches out with a random minion. Really good for getting a big card out early, though the enemy has to have no destruction spells or enemies on the field.
Thanks -_- lol
I finally used that pesky little 3 point robot card that switches out with a random minion. Really good for getting a big card out early, though the enemy has to have no destruction spells or enemies on the field.
Face means attacking your opponent directly instead of trading with minions. It's like punching them in the face.
Bumping her down. Also, changed Sylvanas' spelling. Everywhere I hear it pronounced confuses me on the suffix.
Servbot #42
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In somewhat related news i can't believe i can stream heartstone somwhat decently with a 1MB upload connection, fucking crazy. I wish i was streaming when i recombulated my silenced sneed into a Foe Reaper 4000, in an earlier turn my opponent copied my sneed with faceless and when i destroyed his copied sneed it summoned another fucking Foe Reaper 4000! I wish i had recorded that 
Mobius and pet octopus
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Revising my list a little bit.
Top in order:
warlock
warrior
hunter
middle in no order:
paladin
mage
rogue
druid
Bottom in order:
priest
shaman
You will when he is nerfed.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I can understand flame leviathan... but malganis and cenarius? Seems wasteful tbh.
Why did you make a tier list of Neutral minions but then also listed class Legendaries?
Here would be my tier list of neutral Legendaries for Constructed:
God Tier (the one and only true god)
Dr Doom
Top Tier
Ragnaros
Sylvanas
High tier
Ysera
Black Knight
Harrison Jones
Baron Geddon
Sneeds
Loatheb
Kelthuzad
Mid Tier
Bloodmage Thalnos
Alexstraza
Cairne Bloodhoof
Troggzor
Foe Reaper
Low/Irrelevant/Situational tier - Every other Legendary.
I am personally a big believer in Foe Reaper. Immune to BGH, nice balance of stats, great ability. If you get this out and it survives then it's really difficult for the opponent to regain board control ever again as long as he's alive.
Professor Lich
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RumblingRosco
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Why ETC? For the Murloc combo-wombo?
Minsc
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It's just for fun, it's not like the deck is really that great, way too slow with no comeback for health.
BananasWithGuns
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Thank you. This is really helpful.
Guess I essentially have to decide between Al'Akir and Neptulon. Leaning toward Al'Akir a little bit since I feel like he fits a little better into my deck.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Sylvanas has already won me games, particularly with the Sylvanas/Shadowflame combo. Was worth it over Dr. Boom who's mostly a fatty vulnerable to BGH. I have Rag in place of him.
TimeEffect
Member
Man I forgot about the Arena.. should have saved my gold for that since it seems to give out good prizes
Why is Mage considered S tier for Arena?
Why is Mage considered S tier for Arena?
Best hero power, best spells, best aoe.
A lot of the Mage's best class cards are common/free, especially in a mode that's more minion-heavy(Flamestrike).
Flamestrike is a God tier card for Arena (which is very board game, mid range minion heavy which Flamestrike is made to kill) which is a common card for Mages.
Frostbolt combined with Mage's hero power kills pretty much every 2-3 drop in the game. Hell it can even kill a Yeti with Frostbolt + Hero power then Hero power next turn since the creature is frozen.
Water Elemental is potentially the best 4 drop in the game. It loses to no standard 4 drop in the game, can normally kill two 3 drops (especially combined with Hero power). The freeze power is also very good in a variety of situations, it can absolutely destroy weapon based classes under the right conditions.
Fireball is a very cheap high damage spell that can kill minions or give you the reach you need to win the game. Plus Hero power we are looking at killing everything from Bolderfist Ogre down.
Polymorph is a premium removal for those pesky big minions or deathrattle minions.
All of these are common cards that you are likely to get in a draft.
Basically you draft these cards then get a bunch of high value minions and you will win. Cards like Mad Scientist plus a bunch of traps also help their tempo along with a few mechs if you get them.
Oh and Unstable Portal to add an extra layer of bull shit to Arena.
Little Nemo
Member
Finally got another legendary and it's ANOTHER Flame Leviathan. That makes three. Blizz, are you fucking kidding me?!
TimeEffect
Member
Maybe it goes without saying, but man I'm starting to get ticked with how good starting cards can really spell doom for your game.
Especially when the enemy starts with a balance of instant minion destroying cards at little cost. Got torn apart.
Any class have anything that counters counters?
Especially when the enemy starts with a balance of instant minion destroying cards at little cost. Got torn apart.
Any class have anything that counters counters?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hard to say without you stating any specifics. What cards you need to counter, is kinda important towards telling you how to counter
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