toddhunter
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Do nothing, do nothing, shield slam, play legendary, play legendary, win/lose.
It is about as boring as it gets. Ditto to play against, because it takes 400 turns to get to the point where you may or may not win.
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Do nothing, do nothing, shield slam, play legendary, play legendary, win/lose.
It is about as boring as it gets. Ditto to play against, because it takes 400 turns to get to the point where you may or may not win.
I don't normally dust stuff, but that's because I don't believe that I'll ever get anything back with the rate I play. That's just personal bias though, I think it's probably better to dust and make stuff that you will use rather than hope for something.
Pulled a Dr. Boom from the GvG packs, so that's nice.
That was probably me....
I am DantheBadass on Battle.net.
That's the deck I am running these days. It's better than Mill Druid because Mage has better stalls/AOE clears. Even if you can't clear you normally have a ton of freeze spells to wait out for the proper card. Druids don't have that and their AOE clears are a bit more situation and combo heavy (like if you have just Poison Seeds with a bunch of Death Rattle minions that won't save you but a Frost Nova or Cone of Cold normally does).
Brian Griffin
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I ran it today on my lunch break. One guy in ranked conceded on turn 6 when I played a heal bot. I assume he knew what I was playing, lol. It does seem better than Fatigue Druid but killing opponents with Naturalize is so damn fun.
Both of these decks have the same weakness in that they are weak to Combo Decks. Freeze Mage is weaker to Control Warrior but stronger against Zoo.
Also Freeze/Fatigue Mage gets wrecked by Antonidas if he's stealthed. The match up against Mech mage is one where it's easy win until they draw an Antonidas into 2-3 1 spells used plus one of them being stealth. That makes the match go from easy to win to fairly difficult as he will just burst you down with Fireballs.
The worst thing that happened today was on Turn 4 he kills my Deathlord and it summons an Antonidas. He stealths him up and then proceeds to own me from there. RNGesus was not on my side that time.
The times where they got Antonidas out and I had a Polymorph in play I won those matches convincingly.
And Fel Reaver is a fucking shit card. Honestly speaking if there was a card that gave over control of a minion to your opponent I would play that deck and then destroy the opponent's entire deck with cheap ass 1 spells/spare parts.
Also Freeze/Fatigue Mage gets wrecked by Antonidas if he's stealthed. The match up against Mech mage is one where it's easy win until they draw an Antonidas into 2-3 1 spells used plus one of them being stealth. That makes the match go from easy to win to fairly difficult as he will just burst you down with Fireballs.
The worst thing that happened today was on Turn 4 he kills my Deathlord and it summons an Antonidas. He stealths him up and then proceeds to own me from there. RNGesus was not on my side that time.
The times where they got Antonidas out and I had a Polymorph in play I won those matches convincingly.
And Fel Reaver is a fucking shit card. Honestly speaking if there was a card that gave over control of a minion to your opponent I would play that deck and then destroy the opponent's entire deck with cheap ass 1 spells/spare parts.
Reynad gets gunned down by Malygos. Yes, I can feel the salt inside you.
CarbonatedFalcon
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"You can't even be mad."..."Oh yes you can!"
Loved his eyes getting wide, hahaha.
I am now kind of sad I DEd my Malygos
Mobius and pet octopus
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When people were calling ancestor's call crap, I was saying malygos burn
Servbot #42
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Woah maybe it was you....my battle.net name is KobraZer0 so maybe you remember my name because i don't remember the name of the dude.
Servbot #42
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all i remember is that is put down a leroy and used to kill a deathlord and a healbot was one of the last minions i played. Oh and i had no more cards when i conceded.
Leeroy Jenkins? Wasn't me then, I didn't play against any Leeroy Jenkins today.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
If you run hearthstone deck tracker, it records all your opponent names now.
Hey guys I have been tweaking my own version of a spare part focused mech rouge deck recently and it has been doing pretty well. I thought I would post it here to get Gaf's opinion on it.
Its been winning games but is also a ton of fun, which is what I generally go for with decks these days
Also, before anyone mentions it, I don't have Dr. Boom yet heh. Although I am not sure how well it would fit in this style of mech rouge anyway.
Its been winning games but is also a ton of fun, which is what I generally go for with decks these days
Also, before anyone mentions it, I don't have Dr. Boom yet heh. Although I am not sure how well it would fit in this style of mech rouge anyway.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Harrison Jones. Harrison Jones EVERYWHERE.
I would be mad too.
Hahaha, best part is that it doesn't unstealth after the turn.
toddhunter
Member
Is there a link to a video or something? Would love to see the Amaz reaction to that.
Unstable Portal is fine guys
CarbonatedFalcon
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So from 15 packs I just got a golden Ancient of War, golden Ancient of Lore, and Ysera.
+ A few other epics and golden rares.
Probably the best $20 I've spent on Hearthstone.
Already had 2x of each Ancient, so that's 800 dust (would consider keeping, but I have no real interest in golden cards.)
+ A few other epics and golden rares.
Probably the best $20 I've spent on Hearthstone.
Already had 2x of each Ancient, so that's 800 dust (would consider keeping, but I have no real interest in golden cards.)
At 4 wins my opponent plays 3 Truesilvers and kills me with exact lethal after playing EQUALITY + CONSECRATE while I have 2 Ironbarks on board and a hand full of cards...
I should just draft 1-drops over bombs it seems.
It's not OP like I predicted from the moment it was spoiled. Too often it produces a generic minion that sets you behind to be consistent. You guys say "the worst case scenario you get a free River Crocolisk!", well that's a fucking horrible play on turn-2 in constructed boys.
I should just draft 1-drops over bombs it seems.
It's not OP like I predicted from the moment it was spoiled. Too often it produces a generic minion that sets you behind to be consistent. You guys say "the worst case scenario you get a free River Crocolisk!", well that's a fucking horrible play on turn-2 in constructed boys.
toddhunter
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Thanks!
His deck was crazy, there was nothing I could do about it!
Minsc
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Not all mage decks use vital 2-drops though, if it's in a deck that normally doesn't depend on hitting a perfect 2-drop for winning, it's irrelevant if it pulls a bad draw. Just an extra win condition, and one that works out 1/3 of the time or so.
Irrelevant? That 2 drop could've been a relevant card in your hand.
"You can't even be mad."..."Oh yes you can!"
Loved his eyes getting wide, hahaha.
I am now kind of sad I DEd my Malygos
Got a Malygos a while back off a deck I bought from my dailies. Kinda glad I didn't DE it.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Ugh. Have enough dust for like 2.5 legendaries. Problem is the legendaries I need and want don't necessarily synergize with each other. Dr. Boom is great, but I feel like I can skip him. So then next up is like Black Knight and Alexstraza, but they work in completely different deck archetypes. Thinking about getting Alex and the required epics (~3) for freeze mage, then IDK what. If I get Grom and Alex, I'd still be missing Baron, Harrison, and Boom for control warrior. Could get Cenarius since I've been playing a lot of druid, but I think he's easily subbed out for Ysera or Kel'Thuzad.
Tough decision. Though I think Alex might be for sure since I'd finally be able to freeze mage, since she's critical for that.
Tough decision. Though I think Alex might be for sure since I'd finally be able to freeze mage, since she's critical for that.
And that's the way the game goes.
The sooner all you people complaining about RNG accept that fact that some perrcentage of your losses and your wins will be forced by the roll of a dice the sooner you can start having fun with the game.
Dr. Boom fool.
Druids start running poison seeds to counter Mage confirmed.
Minsc
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What I mean is when you build a deck around a curve, not all decks need to hit their 2-drops. Certain types of decks getting a 2/3 creature is fine for a 2-drop.
Ultimately, the chances break down to being in your favor of it trading 1:1 as a card, which is what you want. Very few times it won't go 1:1, and many times it can go 2:1 or higher, sometimes outright win you a game by itself (which when you are hoping for a 55%+ winrate, counts for a ton). For a 2-mana card, that's pretty good, and more than can be said of a lot of a Mage's other 2-mana cards. Not to mention the synergy it has with Mana Wyrm, turn 1 Wyrm followed by Portal to a 6-mana creature turn 3 is tough to come back against, or even a 2/3 Wyrm + another 2-3 drop down on turn 2 while getting that buff for the Wyrm and starting to tick away their life.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Play malganis, master of disguise it, pass the rest of the game... right?
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Seems like unstable portal as a card is being judged on how much you can rely on it. You should judge it on how often it draws a 2 or higher mana card vs how often it draws a wisp or target dummy or 1 mana card. The chances of getting a 2 mana or higher card is way higher than a 1 mana card or wisp/target dummy. That is how much you can rely on it tbh. And how many times it hits big is whatever % of minion cards exist that give you basically an autowin if you get it.
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Seems like unstable portal as a card is being judged on how much you can rely on it. You should judge it on how often it draws a 2 or higher mana card vs how often it draws a wisp or target dummy or 1 mana card. The chances of getting a 2 mana or higher card is way higher than a 1 mana card or wisp/target dummy. That is how much you can rely on it tbh. And how many times it hits big is whatever % of minion cards exist that give you basically an autowin if you get it.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I saw a guy who managed to put malganis and jarraxus down consecutively, and there was nothing I could do about it ._.
partyphone
Banned
i'm inclined to believe that, on average, it's not a broken card. but it feels pretty awful to lose to something that not only comes early but can't naturally exist in a mage deck. it's anti-fun.
which is the same rational they used to nerf mind control.
Servbot #42
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250 wins with Control Warrior, another 250 more to go! ........
You really must like control warrior to play so many matches, i see you farm matches every single day.
It's my most favorite golden portrait, and I actually do like the deck because of how non-standard it plays (e.g. not play minion after minion and trade and hit face). It's just that farming it takes so long but that's one of the prestige of having a golden warrior.
Mobius and pet octopus
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CW is basically a remnant of classic hearthstone. Removal for everything, then win off combos and big minions.
I'd say winning the game with board control is relatively newer. Like since naxxramas came out and more so since gvg, with exception to cw.
I'd say winning the game with board control is relatively newer. Like since naxxramas came out and more so since gvg, with exception to cw.
I'm tearing my hair out playing shaman.
I'm starting to think the class is too balanced compared to all the other classes that have some level of unfairness to them, yeah we have good early game removal and hex but I just feel that shaman is way behind right now.
I'm actually still climbing the ladder but it's so god damn slow it's infuriating and I'm pretty much auto conceding to hunter. I'll win 3 and lose 2 and it's giving me a headache.
Should I just join the masses and play face hunter and zoo till rank 5 then try and play properly at rank 5?
I'm starting to think the class is too balanced compared to all the other classes that have some level of unfairness to them, yeah we have good early game removal and hex but I just feel that shaman is way behind right now.
I'm actually still climbing the ladder but it's so god damn slow it's infuriating and I'm pretty much auto conceding to hunter. I'll win 3 and lose 2 and it's giving me a headache.
Should I just join the masses and play face hunter and zoo till rank 5 then try and play properly at rank 5?
Shaman has a really good matchup vs hunter if you add antique healbots though.
I'd advise against hunter because from watching streams it seems most people are playing anti-hunter tech like Chows at ranks 5-9. QuarterMuster Paladin actually seems like a good deck to climb but it needs to be properly built with Tirion and such.
I would feel dirty playing hunter to be honest.
Here's my deck list. Any thoughts? I don't have access to the 2nd 2 wings of naxx so no Chow
Earth Shock X2
Rockbiter Weapon X2
Stormforged Axe
Crackle X2
Acidic Swamp Ooze
Flametongue Totem X2
Haunted Creeper X2
Feral Spirit X2
Hex X2
Lightning Storm X2
Big Game Hunter
Defender of Argus
Piloted Shredder X2
Sen'jin Shieldmasta
Antique Healbot
Azure Drake
Fire Elemental X2
Dr Boom
Neptulon
Al'akir the Windlord
Currently at Rank 12 , 1 star from rank 11
You definitely want a Thalnos somewhere in there since you're playing Crackle along with the other common Shaman spells. Belchers are also really needed but you don't have that Naxx wing so too bad. You also want 1 Harvest Golem for an early sticky minion that can trade. I'd take out BGH and Stormforged Axe. Ooze is questionable too.
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