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Not really.
Officerrob
Banned
Just a bunch of RNG coin flips
I mean, welcome to card games, I guess?
Mobius and pet octopus
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The thing is, this RNG is not even new. And dr. boom rng is even more varied so it's not like there is more RNG in the game atm. Although it does seem to often come down to ragnaros pushing games one way or the other, it's not like the players are just playing yogg and redeeming themselves (most of the time at least lol).
Discover a shaman card, elemental destruction. Rogue AOE.
Discover a druid card, healing touch. Rogue heal.
It's kinda funny and kinda true that having tri-class cards in your deck is like you're playing a new class, depending on how far they take it.
Discover a shaman card, elemental destruction. Rogue AOE.
Discover a druid card, healing touch. Rogue heal.
It's kinda funny and kinda true that having tri-class cards in your deck is like you're playing a new class, depending on how far they take it.
Well one of them was a 33% chance to not lose the game on the spot and he got it. That was brutal.
Combined with the 50% Rag earlier, that's an 18% Rag luck that got him through.
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thepotatoman
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But Hearthstone also still has topdeck randomness, and many games this tournament has been decided by that as well. No one is complaining about that though because that's what card games are.
Ragnoros is an additional element of randomness on top of that which just doesn't need to be there, especially when it's pretty much included in every single deck, and deciding the majority of games here.
slightconfuse
Banned
How do you even nerf rag it's a pretty fair card
It's not in every deck at all. At one time it wasn't played in any deck, now it's a bit more popular. Also an 8 mana card needs to be strong, cards like Tuskar Totemic were a big RNG swing problem and they nerfed it thankfully.
RumblingRosco
Member
Make it deal 6 damage instead of 8.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Europe proving its the strongest region.
Pretty sure noone would play it at that state, especially when Rag can't attack.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
If Priest becomes Tier 1 I might end up quitting again.
Officerrob
Banned
What the fuck is that question?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Europe:2 world champions
America:1 world champion
China:0
Asia Pacific:0
Also last year was not a European final you are confusing Thijs vs Ostkaka(the true final) as the final but that was the semi final, i think the final was Ostkaka vs Hotform.
America:1 world champion
China:0
Asia Pacific:0
Also last year was not a European final you are confusing Thijs vs Ostkaka(the true final) as the final but that was the semi final, i think the final was Ostkaka vs Hotform.
Rag is fine he create board state that so unigue and patented for digital card game, I think peep just need less salty about rag
Animal companion roll is much less desireable than rag IMO
yeah sorry I forgot thijs vs ostkaka wasn't the finals
Animal companion roll is much less desireable than rag IMO
yeah sorry I forgot thijs vs ostkaka wasn't the finals
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Well i don't blame you it was the best match of any of these tournaments. top top top tier play on both sides, so ofcourse its the game your remember from 2015.
Lagspike_exe
Member
USSR finals, nice.
Also, when are the packs arriving? Tomorrow or are we going to wait some time? I need the dust.
The major difference is that Demolisher deals damage at the beginning of your turn, while Rag does it at the end. Your opponent can deal with the Demolisher prior to him dealing damage, while 8 damage from Rag is guaranteed.
Also, when are the packs arriving? Tomorrow or are we going to wait some time? I need the dust.
Man it's not even a unique effect, there's another card that does something very similar.
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The major difference is that Demolisher deals damage at the beginning of your turn, while Rag does it at the end. Your opponent can deal with the Demolisher prior to him dealing damage, while 8 damage from Rag is guaranteed.
Man it's not even a unique effect, there's another card that does something very similar.
Watch Blizzard give Rag the Pagle nerf and make it "At the start of your turn"
USSR finals, nice.
Also, when are the packs arriving? Tomorrow or are we going to wait some time? I need the dust.
Some time next week.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Man it's not even a unique effect, there's another card that does something very similar.
Thanks.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Rag was a card I thought they should have nerfed with the standard rotation. Especially after they nerfed bgh. Same line of thought with molten giants. They just shouldn't be cards that stick around forever.
Would make the card unplayable. Ragnaros gets played because it's a big card that does something substantial on the turn it is played.
Hardly anyone using Sylvanas at these tournaments despite being a top tier Legendary. It's just too slow in the current meta.
I didn't bring up Demolisher to say that's how Rag should be, just that the effect of throwing damage at random enemies isn't a unique effect in the game.
If they nerfed Rag I wouldn't bat an eye to be honest.
Portugeezer
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Can't even kill a 0 mana Arcane Giant LUL
you could see your choice on this page before http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en...-world-championship-2016/choose-your-champion
not anymore, is it like that for anyone else? or did they erase my vote!!!
not anymore, is it like that for anyone else? or did they erase my vote!!!
I can still see mine. Are you logged in?
People are hysterical.
I mean I would've never believed we would be talking about nerfing Rag in 2016. Insane stuff.
Are you REALLY surprised? Some people here wanted to nerf Reno as soon as LoE was out ... hilarious stuff.
FormallyFamicom
Member
I missed the second vote.
yeeaah. Pavel ls already world champion. I don't see how Hippi climbs back out of this one, his line up is so bad against Pavel too. That rogue and c'thun warrior are going to be rough for him and he already lost to tempo mage with zoo. rip, he had a great run though, 5 packs yay.
veryslowhand
Banned
cairn out of that portal
Apparently there are only going to be 9 total Faction Cards. For each faction, one rare discover card, one Legendary, and a third one they didn't go into detail about.
https://youtu.be/YH8mzL81Yr8?t=7m50s
https://youtu.be/YH8mzL81Yr8?t=7m50s
Portugeezer
Member
Final already on? Damn can't watch right now...
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Nodody can win from Pavels portal rng.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not calling it oppressively overpowered, but I do think it's too commonly used as a evergreen card, and the RNG component to it is something that should be moved away from. We shouldn't have to have another Dr. Boom to make it no longer see play.
Honestly, I don't even think it's that bad for ladder play, but it's really bad for tournament play.
PandaPandaPanda
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unless you are a big fan of either finalist-you aren't missing much
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