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[Dahbomb]

well, kazakus is like a stronger, far more consistent and flexbile old yogg honestly, somehow people don't get mad at this one because it's less RNG I guess. Yogg actually was more restrict with deck building and play style, you had to play lots of spells for it to do anything, kazakus condition is actually easier and faster to meet.

3 to 4 decks could play Yogg (Tempo Mage, Combo Druid and Control Warrior, even some Rogue decks) and 3 decks/classes can play Kazakus. A lot of these decks could get by using a handful of spells and still play Yogg, in fact having too many spells wasn't that great with Yogg due to backfire potential on empty board. So deck restriction isn't that different and in new rotation having a deck made around Kazakus will sting even more without Brann and Reno.

Kazakus is more consistent and faster yes but Yogg has bigger comeback and swing potential. More difficult to play around too. There are a lot of boards where Kazakus can never win but Yogg can turn any situation.

This is talking about the OG Yogg of course. The game was heading in a direction where a lot more decks started to use Yogg with just a few more spells thrown in. Kazakus has a hard limit of 3 classes AND highlander control decks. Yogg was definitely a problematic card that needed the nerf, Kazakus is about to be a crap ton weaker with the rotation.

 

[MThanded]

Im tired of reno.

Just had a mage top deck it twice after he shuffled it into his deck a second time.

 

[QFNS]

All y'all crying about missing Azure Drake and no one mourning the passing of the GOAT -- Reno Jackson. At least Wild will still see his richness.

Hopefully they are serious about supporting Wild format stuff. Will make the Wild ladder a lot more fun with more people playing it.


Otherwise the changes seem good. Don't think I'm going to bother with the legendary crafting. The 400 dust isn't worth it. Don't care about the goldens enough. Nice of them to do it though. My one gold azure Drake will pay off.

 

[Zemm]

This Tides of time rogue deck is so fun to watch in this tournament, he looks terrible though, like he hasn't sleep for a week :/

 

[Zemm]

Well Dr Hippi just made the worst play I've ever seen in the game, proper rank 25 stuff

Still won because pirate warrior LUL

 

[Tacitus_]

I haven't been playing for maybe 2 months now. Should start hitting out the dailies now that the new stuff sounds exiting and bank gold. Maybe play casual wild or something...

 

[MThanded]

All y'all crying about missing Azure Drake and no one mourning the passing of the GOAT -- Reno Jackson. At least Wild will still see his richness.

Hopefully they are serious about supporting Wild format stuff. Will make the Wild ladder a lot more fun with more people playing it.


Otherwise the changes seem good. Don't think I'm going to bother with the legendary crafting. The 400 dust isn't worth it. Don't care about the goldens enough. Nice of them to do it though. My one gold azure Drake will pay off.

eff reno.

 

[scarlet]

I could get 6440 dust for next expansion by dusting LOE and BRM legendaries.

And I'm still grinding gold. Almost 7k dust and thousands of gold, I think it would be enough. I'm so ready for next expansion.

 

[ZealousD]

Dahbomb and I are currently planning to do our Gadgetzan Re-Review TONIGHT

I don't have exact timeline for you guys right now, but should be sometime past 9pm CST. You can follow my Twitch channel below to get the notification for when we start.

https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon

It's going to be a little different this time, because now, it will be all of GAF on the chopping block!

 

[MThanded]

The new changes...

No adventures is bleh.

Yeah i usually paid but i straight up got the cards.

 

[QFNS]

Dahbomb and I are currently planning to do our Gadgetzan Re-Review TONIGHT

I don't have exact timeline for you guys right now, but should be sometime past 9pm CST. You can follow my Twitch channel below to get the notification for when we start.

https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon

It's going to be a little different this time, because now, it will be all of GAF on the chopping block!

I won't be around to watch this time but make sure to post the link when you're done and/or the YouTube stuff so I can see how wrong everyone was. I'm sure I got a few wrong at least. I wonder what as a group was the most overrated/underrated.

 

[luoapp]

The new changes...

No adventures is bleh.

Yeah i usually paid but i straight up got the cards.

I actually welcome it. This way, every card can be crafted, nothing behind the paywall.

 

[MThanded]

I actually welcome it. This way, every card can be crafted, nothing behind the paywall.

I'm not free to play.

I'd rather just get cards and play constructed. However, i agree its nice everything could be crafted.

 

[Dahbomb]

I won't be around to watch this time but make sure to post the link when you're done and/or the YouTube stuff so I can see how wrong everyone was. I'm sure I got a few wrong at least. I wonder what as a group was the most overrated/underrated.

As a group I think GAF did pretty well. There always a few outliers though.

 

[LyleLanley]

Adventures were the best part of this game.

 

[Pooya]

If these are everything that is going to get changed with rotation, I don't see how warrior for one is going to change. At least Kor'Kron had to go. I remain optimistic that shaman will be fine or manageable after rotation with claws nerf but nothing is changing with warrior.

 

[ZealousD]

Stream will be starting soon!

https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon

 

[Szadek]

Stream will be starting soon!

https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon

Nice. I unsubbed when I quit the game so I thought you guys did this video already.

 

[manhack]

I guess I have an irrational hate for control warrior. I'm not even playing an aggro deck, so that isn't the problem.

Or maybe just annoyed at any deck that curves into perfect answers while only having 2-3 cards in hand the whole game.

 

[Jadax]

Wait so how does this work?

If I have those cards already I just keep them? If I don't, I should craft them now?

 

[traveler]

Adventures were the best part of this game.

I think it was the coolest innovation they brought to the genre too. Hopefully, the single player adventures accompanying adventures scratch the same itch. Not going to call doom and gloom yet.

 

[Dahbomb]

Finja was a blood bath.

 

[thepotatoman]

Finja was a blood bath.

Biggest bloodbath is you both giving Small Time Buccaneer a 4.

STB was the biggest problem card between it and Patches. You'll see how popular Patches is after STB gets the nerf.

EDIT: And, yes, Finja is a solid 4.

 

[ZealousD]

Finja was a blood bath.

Here are some videos of Kibler playing the Finja Shaman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsjd4J-36Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dancNnc6dyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2JplfdO4rg

STB was the biggest problem card between it and Patches. You'll see how popular Patches is after STB gets the nerf.

I still maintain that Rogue and Warrior can easily run Patches without STB.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

So its pretty obvious to craft all the golden hall of fame cards right, no loss of dust?

 

[fertygo]

Biggest bloodbath is you both giving Small Time Buccaneer a 4.

STB was the biggest problem card between it and Patches. You'll see how popular Patches is after STB gets the nerf.

EDIT: And, yes, Finja is a solid 4.

Shaman drop Pirate, hooray

still had to deal Warrior cast Muster of Battle turn one.

 

[SodiumBenzoate]

This Tides of time rogue deck is so fun to watch in this tournament, he looks terrible though, like he hasn't sleep for a week :/

He always looks like that. I don't want to speculate but the dude obviously needs to take better care of himself.

 

[thepotatoman]

So its pretty obvious to craft all the golden hall of fame cards right, no loss of dust?

Loss of dust on opporunity cost of losing dust from what you would have gotten from your standard cards.

But if you don't have the deck maximum of any of the rotating cards while somehow having the dust to spare, than you actually make a profit.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Loss of dust on opporunity cost of losing dust from what you would have gotten from your standard cards.

But if you don't have the deck maximum of any of the rotating cards while somehow having the dust to spare, than you actually make a profit.

ill probably craft a gold rag and Sylvanas no dust lost 2 gold cards gained for Wild.

 

[Dahbomb]

Biggest bloodbath is you both giving Small Time Buccaneer a 4.

STB was the biggest problem card between it and Patches. You'll see how popular Patches is after STB gets the nerf.

EDIT: And, yes, Finja is a solid 4.

Blast is given out when difference is more than 2. Saying a card is a 4 when it's a 5 isn't really a blast, more like a slight underrate/overrate. Finja on the other hand was rated 2 on average in many cases hence the bloodbath.

And yeah we'll see how popular Patches is after the nerf. I still expect Rogues and Warriors to run it.

 

[thepotatoman]

ill probably craft a gold rag and Sylvanas no dust lost 2 gold cards gained for Wild.

But you don't get dust for your non-golden cards if you have a golden card.

So unless you don't have Rag and Sylvanas at all, you are losing from opportunity cost 1600 dust, or 1200 dust if you disenchant your standard card.

Blast is given out when difference is more than 2. Saying a card is a 4 when it's a 5 isn't really a blast, more like a slight underrate/overrate.

And yeah we'll see how popular Patches is after the nerf.

You mean Small Time Bucceneer is not a 7?

Fine.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

But you don't get dust for your non-golden cards if you have a golden card.

So unless you don't have Rag and Sylvanas at all, you are losing from opportunity cost 1600 dust, or 1200 dust if you disenchant your standard card.

Wait i thought it was 2 cards get refunded so 1 regular rag and 1 golden.

 

[thepotatoman]

Wait i thought it was 2 cards get refunded so 1 regular rag and 1 golden.

Nope, just the deck maximum, with golden taking preference over non-golden if you have more than the deck maximum.

So only 1 card refund for Rag and Sylvanus, 2 for everything else.

 

[Glass Shark]

I've lost two full ranks tonight to the most random shit. Anyfin Paladin, Beast Hunter, some Demon Zoo Warlock that I've never seen before... I'm starting to wish for more Shamans...

EDIT: AND a Maly Druid. Like WTF. I haven't seen these decks in weeks and now this all the sudden. I mean I'm glad for variety, but I wasn't prepared for it.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Nope, just the deck maximum, with golden taking preference over non-golden if you have more than the deck maximum.

So only 1 card refund for Rag and Sylvanus, 2 for everything else.

Damn you Krip stop spreading misinformation! Thanks for clearing it up not crafting anything then.

 

[thepotatoman]

Damn you Krip stop spreading misinformation! Thanks for clearing it up not crafting anything then.

Yeah, Kripp isn't always totally up on the news he sleeps through.

But if you did craft a golden, you could just disenchant the gold version after rotation and still end with the same 1600 dust profit. Same dust profit with a couple months of a free golden card, if you're ok with your dust being non-liquid during that time.

You're only screwed out of dust if you craft the gold version and keep it.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Yeah, Kripp isn't always totally up on the news he sleeps through.

But if you did craft a golden, you could just disenchant the gold version after rotation and still end with the same 1600 dust profit. Same dust profit with a couple months of a free golden card, if you're ok with your dust being non-liquid during that time.

You're only screwed out of dust if you craft the gold version and keep it.

Ah ye i guess. decisions decisions.

 

[KuroNeeko]

Sylvanaaaaas, noooooooooo!

She's like my favorite Legendary! (; .

At least we have more DR-based decks coming in the future AND dumb-ass Conceal / PO are finally going away.

 

[inky]

Damn you Krip stop spreading misinformation! Thanks for clearing it up not crafting anything then.

Kripp got it right, he was referring to non-legendary cards when he said you get two (he gave an Azure Drake example where you had 1 golden and a few dozen non-golden, you'd get dust for 1 golden and 1 regular). When it comes to legendaries, he correctly said you'll get dust only for the golden version in case you own both, or just 1 in case you own more than 1.

 

[Triz]

Warrior arena draft pick 1 was The Black Knight, Grommash, or Lorewalker Cho. Thought about Grommash and decided Black Knight was the best option.

First game Priest on turn 7 buffs a Huge toad with Velens Chosen so I can't kill it. Turn eight plays Devilsaur. Black Knight in hand for the confirmed right pick in draft.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

Developer Insights Live Q&A next Tuesday.

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20570418/developer-insights-live-stream-qa-year-of-the-mammoth-2-16-2017

 

[squidyj]

I've got my golden rag, sylvanas and drakes all set up. the dust doesn't really matter because I'd be saving for the next expac anyways. hopefully i can get the remaining 2400 dust for 6 commons. The reward isn't massive but it's better than just keeping the dust.

 

[manhack]

I've lost two full ranks tonight to the most random shit. Anyfin Paladin, Beast Hunter, some Demon Zoo Warlock that I've never seen before... I'm starting to wish for more Shamans...

EDIT: AND a Maly Druid. Like WTF. I haven't seen these decks in weeks and now this all the sudden. I mean I'm glad for variety, but I wasn't prepared for it.

Same. This happens to me all the time though 30% of my games have been various types of Priests...Djinni, Dragon, OTK, Reno. Shamans, but none running standard lists. Bizarre dragon aggro Hybrids, Buff Paladins.

It's nights like these where I go to my Legend capable decks and get steamrolled by various meme decks and then get annoyed at everyone complaining about "5 Pirate Warriors/Shamans in a row"

 

[squidyj]

Same. This happens to me all the time though 30% of my games have been various types of Priests...Djinni, Dragon, OTK, Reno. Shamans, but none running standard lists. Bizarre dragon aggro Hybrids, Buff Paladins.

It's nights like these where I go to my Legend capable decks and get steamrolled by various meme decks and then get annoyed at everyone complaining about "5 Pirate Warriors/Shamans in a row"

So this is one of the things I worry about with the rank floors. Just absolutely lawless wastelands with minimal meta to speak of. An environment where it's very difficult to apply any sort of insight into deckbuilding to attack another deck or anything like that. Just pure mindless chaos, control decks making the most defensive play every turn, aggro decks making the most aggressive play every turn, everybody playing around everything and nothing at the same time.

 

[Eddie Bax]

Played arena for the first time in a while, drafted a terrible deck, and only managed to limp to two wins.

My reward? A pack and a regular Eviscerate. Gee, thanks Blizz. That really encourages me to play more arena in future. Pretty sure I couldn't have gotten a worse reward even with 0 wins.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

This Tides of time rogue deck is so fun to watch in this tournament, he looks terrible though, like he hasn't sleep for a week :/

What is he running?

 

[fertygo]

What is he running?

N'zoth Rogue

 

[Mulgrok]

That feel when every time you get ahead on the board the rogue opponent pulls an eadric the pure out of his ass.

 

[Johnlenham]

Wow never seen Greater arcane missile before. Somehow got to grind out 5 wins as a paladin without the cards to make a decent brawl deck..

 

[jblank83]

He always looks like that. I don't want to speculate but the dude obviously needs to take better care of himself.

He used to look better a couple of years ago, although he started to get overweight. Used to stream at regular times too.

But yeah, if he was my buddy I'd have a talk with him.