Against classes that don't have cheap hard removal, those buff cards can be insane.
That said I wonder if the buff is permanent, as in does it persist after getting sapped?
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Against classes that don't have cheap hard removal, those buff cards can be insane.
That said I wonder if the buff is permanent, as in does it persist after getting sapped?
I don't think that the paladin card is all that good.
It has the same stats as chillmaw,which isn't a great card, despite synergies and an effect that usually works in your favor.
Bog creeper is a 6/8 for 7 and doesn't seem much play in constructed either.
The difference between 6 and 8 hp is pretty big for such an expansive card.
Paladins also already have 2 cards that givee shields, neither of them get played anywhere right now.
The warrior card is just another handbuff card and I have nothing new to say about these cards.
If that mechanic falls flaton it's face than mostof the goes to waste. I'm really getting more and more TGT vibes from this set, also because they are revealing this many shitty filler cards this early.
It has the same stats as chillmaw,which isn't a great card, despite synergies and an effect that usually works in your favor.
Bog creeper is a 6/8 for 7 and doesn't seem much play in constructed either.
The difference between 6 and 8 hp is pretty big for such an expansive card.
Paladins also already have 2 cards that givee shields, neither of them get played anywhere right now.
The warrior card is just another handbuff card and I have nothing new to say about these cards.
If that mechanic falls flaton it's face than mostof the goes to waste. I'm really getting more and more TGT vibes from this set, also because they are revealing this many shitty filler cards this early.
I won't go that far already, I would just say I'm not interested to how Grimey goons card shaping, I still hyped to what Lotus and Kabal bringing, even from day 1 Lotus and Kabal had the juicy stuff, and Goons is just boring, even some of neutral is more hype than card from Goons
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we made this weapon so you buff it then it buffs your guys. works every time.
really bad... 2 attack weapons are so bad.
legit can't think any reason why weapon must had 2 attack
Indeed they are. That alone should be reason enoguh why this weapon won't see any play.new card
we made this weapon so you buff it then it buffs your guys. works every time.
really bad... 2 attack weapons are so bad.
Mobius and pet octopus
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we made this weapon so you buff it then it buffs your guys. works every time.
really bad... 2 attack weapons are so bad.
Well, it is easily buffed to 3 attack.
I'm not convinced it's bad because the type of warrior deck it promotes is harder to imagine than paladin. A single weapon buff on it brings it to 12 damage and then you basically get a BOK spread out. I think it's a card hard to judge atm.
I do like how they're trying to promote actual minion board control warrior decks, rather than just handing them simply stronger removal or survival tools they have been doing the for quite a while.
BananasWithGuns
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Yeah, that weapon is pretty bad. Worse than Sword of Justice even.
It's absolutely made for the new 3 drop which makes it decent, but without it's not worth it.
It's absolutely made for the new 3 drop which makes it decent, but without it's not worth it.
The Wizard
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The goons theme seems really forced in warrior, guess they'll be stuck playing largely classic cards yet again.
Mobius and pet octopus
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c'thun warrior?
dragon warrior?
pirate warrior?
removal warrior?
classic control warrior hasn't been a thing for a long time
The Wizard
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You know what I stand corrected, most of my experience with warrior comes as playing against the control variant but looking at the deck lists they have actually gotten some really nice stuff in past expansions.
Overall I'd say, warrior and hunter are not touching any of these buffs released so far. Hunter 2 drop is ok though and it could be played as a filler 2 drop in future. The Kodo is just good by itself, it doesn't need buffs. That's what a good card is. If you are playing a mediocre card to go along with another mediocre card to make something good, your deck is mediocre at best. It doesn't work in Hearthstone, you need cards to be good by themselves, more so in a hunter or midrange warrior deck. If you're playing a bad card it needs to be a game ending combo or similar which none of these are. The weapon buff only makes sense in a face deck, no other warrior deck wants to play a 3/3 do nothing card, even if it's good with fool's bane, it's not a good game plan for a deck.
Now paladin cards are better because they impact your entire hand and not a single card you have no control over. Even then the effect isn't worth paying too much for. The 1 mana spell and the 2 drop are the only ones worth considering imo. The rest are junk.
Now paladin cards are better because they impact your entire hand and not a single card you have no control over. Even then the effect isn't worth paying too much for. The 1 mana spell and the 2 drop are the only ones worth considering imo. The rest are junk.
Randomizer123454444
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That priest card "6-mana 5 damage to all non-dragons" makes more sense now, if they are expecting minions with higher than average HP pool. But if nobody ends up using those "buff minions in hands" -cards then the new priest aoe clear will be insane.
If people do end up using those "buff minions in hands" then the clear will have less effect. But still be very, very good compared to holy nova or excavated evil.
If people do end up using those "buff minions in hands" then the clear will have less effect. But still be very, very good compared to holy nova or excavated evil.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I can't wait to play against dragonfire bomb, as a dragon deck. Maybe I'll even find some room for buffs in dragon paladin.
It's not the real card.
Baited.
Warrior's Stolen Goods + class-based Taunts will be played if you ask me, because it can be controlled and +3/+3 is nothing to sneeze at.
Pawnbroker also feels like a natural fit for your Fiery Axe, Gorehowl, and maybe even Arcanite Reaper.
I figured that out when I saw the name, but I wouldn't be supried of we get something like this.
It's literally The Mistcaller, lol
Mobius and pet octopus
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It is literally called "the original idea" and people thought it was real still 
Mobius and pet octopus
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"Give all minions +4/+4 and 50% chance to attack the wrong target to your hand and deck"
I have seen worse names for real cards:It is literally called "the original idea" and people thought it was real still
Since when has stat advantage not been a deciding factor in games? You pay a little upfront, then your buff minion gets buffed, and suddenly past turn 4-5 everything you play just dominates the board. It's going to force removal from your opponent or they get smashed, and they will run out of removal during the late game unless they want to give up the board.
I think it has real potential, and there are many class cards from previous sets that had underpowered statlines that will be better cards because of them getting buffed before playing them.
They have the sponsors and the tournament is going to happen as planned, you can't get more scamaz than that.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Toadally Awesome is a great name shut ya mouf
Mobius and pet octopus
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Could also be buffed up other ways though. Captain greenskin doesn't seem unreasonable since he could be buffed twice, then you play him and you have another 2 buffs to spread out, and he is a 7/5 when you play him for 5 assuming both buffs hit him.
Could also be a decent pick off discover for paladin or hunter buff deck.
enough time to get me to about 3500 gold.. hopefully..
Nope. I'd expect like first week of December though. sometime like the 6th.
Analyzing this mathematically, 2/3 weapon is roughly equivalent to 2 mana in value. Getting a minion in hand buffed by +1/+1 I am going to say is worth a bit less than 1 mana.new card
we made this weapon so you buff it then it buffs your guys. works every time.
really bad... 2 attack weapons are so bad.
If you get two attacks on this weapon then it's still below its cost but at 3 it's a bit above. And just like Piranha Launcher, this accrues value over time not in one turn which means that it's worth less.
So this card accrues value over 3 turns and even then it comes out worse than Piranha Launcher. Granted this comes out one turn earlier but also has less board impact.
If you don't buff this card then it's not good. Any weapon that you need to buff to be good is overall not that good. You can make the case for this in Pirate Warrior but you aren't going to cut War Axe or Arcanite Reaper for it so it becomes an awkward 5th-6th weapon in the deck.
If you look at a buff deck in general I think it holds up better. We need to see the rest of the cards but if there are cards that buff weapons in hand and weapons that buff minions then it stands to reason you will always have something in hand to buff something up. Combine that with cards that discover outside of classes and the concept is interesting to say the least.
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