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Hybris

Member
I read that Midrange Hunter is supposed to he really good against Priests, but somehow it feels like I'm losing to it all the time. Any advice? What kind of cards am I looking for in my opener. Any tech if I really hate playing against the deck?

I don't think that's really true. In fact I think the priest is favored in that solely because of how powerful potion of madness is against you. If they land it on grandmother or rat pack the game is over. And often enough just the threat of it is enough to slow you down enough so they can take control. You really cannot afford to play into it, but sometimes you don't really have any other options.
 

gutshot

Member
The second.

Alleria would turn into Deathstalker Alleria instead of Deathstalker Rexxar as it is now. With how you're already choosing which hero you play your deck with I don't see how it could be confusing.

But ah well, it's not gonna happen and I find that a bit disappointing, Especially since this is the major new addition.

A card literally changing art/name from when you put it in your deck at the collection screen to when you actually draw it in game could be pretty confusing. I mean, I wouldn't be confused, but people who play this game casually might find it confusing. And they'd have to introduce custom code to allow this to happen. All this just for cosmetics?

Although it would be cool, I can see why they decided against it.
 

wiibomb

Member
I'll be really weird to see wickerflame with the lifesteal keyword. doesn't seem like a zombie or anything like that for that keyword to fit
 

manhack

Member
Mage is an amazing player tho, everyone that knew him know he just caught off guard

I still not regretting my pick tho, win or lose

btw RDU actually good pick, he on highroll streak winning a lot in recent tourneys

Thanks for the packs Rdu.

as someone who doesn't follow the competitive scene, my random pick is paying off.

thanks rdu. who else swimming in packs now?

I picked RDU as well. I want Muzzy to win, but I just had a feeling that RDU is about to have a hot streak. This kid wants to be a champion so bad and is just coming back into relevance again.
 

Beckx

Member
I read that Midrange Hunter is supposed to he really good against Priests, but somehow it feels like I'm losing to it all the time. Any advice? What kind of cards am I looking for in my opener. Any tech if I really hate playing against the deck?

you really want a solid 1-2-3 if you can (or alternatively if you've got two decent early openers plus Houndmaster, that can be powerful with coin). Alley Cat followed by Hyena or Crackling is a strong opening. Made a priest quit this morning. ;)

in the end it's just like any game with hunter, you'll be out of gas by late game so get that damage early to get them in range of your hunter power. Kill Command is strong.
 

gutshot

Member
I noticed the Frozen Throne cinematic has all of the heroes wielding weapons with Priest, Warlock and Mage prominently displayed. Artistic license or foreshadowing weapon cards for those classes?
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
I picked Neirea... is he still in?
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
I dig the idea behind Lifesteal. Elegant way to bring that in from WoW. I guess some old cards will gain that keyword in their text? (Hallazeal, etc)

Hallazeal is specific to spells, so I don't think he'll get it. But Mistress of Pain and Wickerflame Burnbristle should probably get it.
 

gutshot

Member
Hallazeal is specific to spells, so I don't think he'll get it. But Mistress of Pain and Wickerflame Burnbristle should probably get it.

They could change Hallazeal's text to "Spells you cast gain Lifelink Lifesteal". But they probably will just keep it the same.
 

Nirolak

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wiibomb

Member
BTW, don't know if anyone has seen gameplay of the cards revealed, but here is some gameplay not shown from yesterday's presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPHIzRZLCo

Originally I wasn't hyped at all about this new hero cards, but each time I think more of them, I like them more and more. I know this hunter legendary might not be any good, but still adds a new flavor to the whole game.
 

TankUP

Member
Every class getting a new hero power is a big deal. I hope there's a way to Tutor the hero cards, because it would suck building your deck around a hero and having that card be in the bottom of your deck. Something like Arcanologist.
 
Claiming that "Deathstalker Rexxar" would confuse Alleria players is ridiculous. There's a simple solution for that problem: just make the card name "Deathstalker Form", or something similar. Tadah! Now no one is confused, and Blizzard can not half-ass this new feature by changing my Tyrande into Anduin.

This seriously ruins every alternate hero as a feature if someone plans to use these cards.

Edit: Oh shit, the Deathknight Rogue card was "leaked":
https://twitter.com/DisguisedToast/status/883258358886678528
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Claiming that "Deathstalker Rexxar" would confuse Alleria players is ridiculous. There's a simple solution for that problem: just make the card name "Deathstalker Form", or something similar. Tadah! Now no one is confused, and Blizzard can not half-ass this new feature by changing my Tyrande into Anduin.

This seriously ruins every alternate hero as a feature if someone plans to use these cards.

Is it half-assing it to change your hero or is it half assing it to not create death knight art and emotes for every single alternate hero from now until the end of Hearthstone?
 

TankUP

Member
I don't get all the people upset that Alleria will turn into Rexxar if you use the Rexxar hero card.

This gives them design space to make a specific Alleria hero card (with its own hero power) later on if they end up liking and wanting to revisit this mechanic.
 
Is anyone else having connection issues recently? I've had about 5 games in the last few days where I've lost due to a disconnect. It's annoying as I was just winning the last one.
 
Is it half-assing it to change your hero or is it half assing it to not create death knight art and emotes for every single alternate hero from now until the end of Hearthstone?

It's half-assing it to not create Death Knight art and emotes for every single alternate hero from now until the end of Hearthstone.

We're talking about a game that makes buttloads of money. They can afford to draw a few more pictures and record some one-liners.

Do we actually know that the new Deathknights have all-new emotes?

I don't get all the people upset that Alleria will turn into Rexxar if you use the Rexxar hero card.

This gives them design space to make a specific Alleria hero card (with its own hero power) later on if they end up liking and wanting to revisit this mechanic.
1) There is a 0% chance of that happening.
2) Do you really want to have to craft legendary cards for all of the alternate heroes? lol
 

TankUP

Member
Do we actually know that the new Deathknights have all-new emotes?

Yes, they do. Wiibomb posted a video of one of Rexxar's new emotes upthread.

1) There is a 0% chance of that happening.

I dunno man, Hearthstone is gonna be around a long time, why would they want to eliminate that possibility for themselves? And as far as the crafting, there's gonna be roughly the same amount of legendaries in each set, what does it matter if it's a quest or a hero or a minion? I'm gonna want it regardless if it's a good card.
 

wiibomb

Member
I don't understand the criticism at all either.

If I use the hero card, I'm substituting my hero for the hero on that card, is it that difficult to understand?

no, it isn't turning them into death knight, nor shadowform version, nor any version, it is placing the hero on the card above your hero.

since when did executus confused any player?
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
It's half-assing it to not create Death Knight art and emotes for every single alternate hero from now until the end of Hearthstone.

We're talking about a game that makes buttloads of money. They can afford to draw a few more pictures and record some one-liners.

Just because Hearthstone makes a lot of money doesn't mean that the team should be working with unlimited funds. They have a set production pipeline in place and maintaining that pipeline means not creating unnecessary future commitments. Doubling their workload for alternate heroes is time better spent elsewhere. Heck, it creates a burden for adding more alternate heroes in the future. It's an unnecessary burden just to make some roleplayers more comfortable.
 

Tacitus_

Member
It's half-assing it to not create Death Knight art and emotes for every single alternate hero from now until the end of Hearthstone.

We're talking about a game that makes buttloads of money. They can afford to draw a few more pictures and record some one-liners.

I doubt that it's about money. Blizz has had - and probably still has - huge problems with their art pipelines. Or like one guy on the WoW team put it

We could do that, but it'd cost a raid tier
 

Pooya

Member
BTW, don't know if anyone has seen gameplay of the cards revealed, but here is some gameplay not shown from yesterday's presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPHIzRZLCo

Originally I wasn't hyped at all about this new hero cards, but each time I think more of them, I like them more and more. I know this hunter legendary might not be any good, but still adds a new flavor to the whole game.

Priest spell heals for one? That must be a bug, Brode made it sound like the heal adds up and it should add up.


This card is very good imo, it will be in almost every priest deck. Dealing one damage to stuff in priest on a decent card? yeah. I take it.

Spell damage makes it exponentially better. I hope there are some new spell damage cards in the set you can play in rogue too.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
Isn't there supposed to be some garaunteed legendary thing every X # of packs? Or did I hear wrong? I just opened 20 packs of ungoro that I bought and not one legendary.
 
Isn't there supposed to be some garaunteed legendary thing every X # of packs? Or did I hear wrong? I just opened 20 packs of ungoro that I bought and not one legendary.


Starts with the next expansion.

You will get a legendary within your first 10 packs when a new expansion comes out

Also you will no longer get dupes of legendaries
 
Isn't there supposed to be some garaunteed legendary thing every X # of packs? Or did I hear wrong? I just opened 20 packs of ungoro that I bought and not one legendary.

As it stands if you've gone 39 packs (of the same pack type) without a legendary then you'll get one in your 40th.

I've also heard that soon if you've never opened a type of pack before (GvG, TGT, Old Gods etc.) you'll get a legendary in your first 10 packs, but I don't think that's in the game yet.
 

Dahbomb

Member
It's an insider acronym ONLY used in this one thread on NeoGAF. There's no reason you should know it (and no reason people should use it, imo, because it's just confusing) but it stands for Patches Pirate Package. :/
The RETURN of the PPP!
 

Raxus

Member
when are they patching out facing the same opponent over and over. I am facing the same person 3-5 times in a row and it is getting tiring.
 
Yes, they do. Wiibomb posted a video of one of Rexxar's new emotes upthread.



I dunno man, Hearthstone is gonna be around a long time, why would they want to eliminate that possibility for themselves? And as far as the crafting, there's gonna be roughly the same amount of legendaries in each set, what does it matter if it's a quest or a hero or a minion? I'm gonna want it regardless if it's a good card.
It's going to be extremely hard for them to come up with 9 new hero powers that are unique and comparable to Rexxar's. Coming up with even more isn't likely.

My point was that giving alternate heroes their own legendary hero card would even further inflate the set cost. It's not a good route for them to take.

Just because Hearthstone makes a lot of money doesn't mean that the team should be working with unlimited funds. They have a set production pipeline in place and maintaining that pipeline means not creating unnecessary future commitments. Doubling their workload for alternate heroes is time better spent elsewhere. Heck, it creates a burden for adding more alternate heroes in the future. It's an unnecessary burden just to make some roleplayers more comfortable.
Some people have straight-up paid money for these portraits.

I just think they shouldn't half-ass the feature, and I also think this downplays the significance of future alternate heroes. If Deathknight Anduin becomes standard, why would I ever care about a future alternate hero they release for Priest? In any other time in gaming people would be unanimous in calling this cheap.

I doubt that it's about money. Blizz has had - and probably still has - huge problems with their art pipelines. Or like one guy on the WoW team put it
It doesn't have to happen with this expansion, but I do think it should happen.

I have a pirate's package ... Well my package does have one eye. ;)
But do you say "I'M IN CHARGE NOW" every time you fire your cannon?

when are they patching out facing the same opponent over and over. I am facing the same person 3-5 times in a row and it is getting tiring.
Any time I get a rematch I hard counterpick their deck on the third one. =)
 

manhack

Member
Or...better idea...they have millions of players. Make their matchmaking not shit.

We're missing a few variables here. Is this wild or standard? What rank are you at? What time of day is it on your server?

All of these could give you a rematch with someone that would be reasonable for your situation.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Rematches are extremely rare for me at rank 10-20 in NA, even in the middle of the night, but I could imagine in legend it's more likely.
 

Mulgrok

Member
does double gold apply to arena? I might actually play that if it does.

Rematches are extremely rare for me at rank 10-20 in NA, even in the middle of the night, but I could imagine in legend it's more likely.

At rank 5 and lower I have queued into the same person 5 times in a row before.
 
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