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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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Professor Lich
Member
I forget, does the summon text mean it removes the card from your deck?
I would laugh so much...
I like the design, it might get some use with little combos like those.
Yes, the minion is taken out of the deck
Karsticles
Member
Maybe Meat Wagon could be used in a combo deck as a deck thinner.
Would anyone like to join a Frozen Throne Death Race challenge with me? When the expansion comes out here are my personal rules:
I am prepared for at least one to be a prince. >_>
- The rules only apply to ranked mode.
- The challenge ends when I reach rank 10 (or pick something lower if you're placed <= 14).
- I will only play decks that use BOTH of the first 2 legendaries I unpack from Frozen Throne.
- If both are class legendaries, I will only play decks that use at least 1 of these legendaries.
I am prepared for at least one to be a prince. >_>
Professor Lich
Member
Alright, thought so, just wanted to make sure. Would be a little bit different if it was a copy I suppose.
Meat Wagon seems inconsistent, you'd probably need to use a spell to buff it, because using cards like Abusive Sargeant would just increase the chance that you pull out a bad card. +4 attack into Malygos seems way too difficult to pull off, so I imagine that the card is mostly going to be used to pull 0-1 attack minions.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Maybe Buff paladin?
It would be powerful if it was "1 less attack" or "exactly the same attack" since you could guarantee what you pull.
The problem with less attack is that even if you buff the attack, unless there's some sort of weighted probability thing, you'll likely end up pulling a 1-drop or 2-drop.
The problem with less attack is that even if you buff the attack, unless there's some sort of weighted probability thing, you'll likely end up pulling a 1-drop or 2-drop.
Why waste your inner fire on things like this? Better to just megabuff high HP minions. Cards like Meat Wagon are awful. Deathrattle cards with low attack values that lack taunt put no pressure on the board and the payoff for something like Meat Wagon just isn't there. Good luck trading it into anything effectively after placing it on the board.
It's just a target you can play on curve buff up it's health then inner fire. It's good either way with priest cards. Just inagine him. Plus 3 health from minion inner fire get out one of your big threats for free. He's a decent target for priest and good pulling out things like light spawn that start at zero health and any health buff makes them a threat. Then you can buff there health and they don't need inner fire. There is a lot of untapped synergy.
It's not "free" though when you are blowing major spells on the Wagon. What are you even looking to pull? Priest barely runs minions, and the ones it does usually need to be played from hand like Medivh or Elise. Light Spawn is not really run but honestly it would be better to just drop that on the board and forget about the deathrattle.
I play mostly priest throughout. I really believe you are underestimating the value and combo potential. It does require a combo of cards not currently played in the meta. So I can see why it wouldn't be obvious.
Came up with a Druid ramp deck to finish a "play 8 mana minion" quest, and it is working super well. Wish I came up with it sooner. Also super fun.
I wonder what I could put in it to make it more fun. The only problem is if I don't draw ramp cards I am dead.
EDIT: maybe i should use Feral Rage instead of earthen scales.
EDIT2: forgot to mention that charged devilsaur is mvp for taking out doomsayers and taunts.
I wonder what I could put in it to make it more fun. The only problem is if I don't draw ramp cards I am dead.
EDIT: maybe i should use Feral Rage instead of earthen scales.
EDIT2: forgot to mention that charged devilsaur is mvp for taking out doomsayers and taunts.
The Medivh is a bit curious. Do you ever get value out of it?
buffing it won't help you pinpoint what it pulls, it only increases the range. I don't think that's worth investing in. You either use this to pull 0 attack cards or nothing, maybe there is something worth pulling with 0 attack....
like you can play it, it pulls alarm-o-bot and your opponent can't kill the bot, bam....
like you can play it, it pulls alarm-o-bot and your opponent can't kill the bot, bam....
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I like that deathrattle card despite the fact it's posted bigger than my monitor screen lol
It's definitely a good handbuff synergy card and I can see it also fitting in nzoth to pull out doomsayer. Hard to evaluate this card in a glance because it has separate functions in separate decks.
It's definitely a good handbuff synergy card and I can see it also fitting in nzoth to pull out doomsayer. Hard to evaluate this card in a glance because it has separate functions in separate decks.
Yes.
So just play it like an egg that pulls an egg. The 4 mana cost is a bummer, but quest priest is probably okay?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think people are miss-evaluating the card. You can't look at it just as a stats heavy (or light) minion. This card draws and plays a card, like mad scientist or patches.
1/4 stats is 2 drop worth of stats.
Draw card is roughly 1.5 mana worth of stats.
Play card is variable.
It's slow to reach value, and it's low tempo, but the value is there. In the right deck, I think this card is very justified. It's playable imo.
1/4 stats is 2 drop worth of stats.
Draw card is roughly 1.5 mana worth of stats.
Play card is variable.
It's slow to reach value, and it's low tempo, but the value is there. In the right deck, I think this card is very justified. It's playable imo.
slightconfuse
Banned
Meat wagon looks like a wild card
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Exodia Mage.
Apologies, but I'm not following you here. Can you clarify?
Quest Mage using Sorc Apprentice and Antonidas to create infinite fireballs and OTK opponent.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
What's the Mana/turn count on that OTK?
first time I get 12 wins in arena, my highest was 8 I think. I didn't play that mode in years because I despise it and I just get excessively mad. free run though! I went for it and got my 12 wins. easy game easy gold
I was playing Rogue but I wasn't expecting to do too well, especially since I already had 2 losses after 3 wins.
basically got carried by Primordial Drake (insane card in arena) and Y'Shaarj. Bittertide Hydra and discovering an active Kazakus also won me a game.
I was playing Rogue but I wasn't expecting to do too well, especially since I already had 2 losses after 3 wins.
basically got carried by Primordial Drake (insane card in arena) and Y'Shaarj. Bittertide Hydra and discovering an active Kazakus also won me a game.
Where do you get your current tier list from, out of curiosity?
I just wish it worked at rank 10. The amount of decks that I encounter which destroy it there, or the amount of times I get both crawler'd and anti-weapon'd in the first 2-3 turns was nuts when I attempted it.
2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 8 mana combo.
Turn count depends on when you complete quest and have 2 Sorc Apprentice + 2 Moltens in your hand. You might get Moltens from Primordial Glyphs though.
Speaking of which, it's high time Primordial Glyph and Arcanologist got the nerf. That new Divine shield draw card looks like a joke next to Arcanologist (and it's still pretty good, just show you how insane Arcanologist is).
Vicious Syndicate:
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-57/
They also do Wild tier lists now.
Yo where's that link at? LOL
cartographer
Member
PW is above 50 percent winrate so it's not on the nerf radar.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
As OP as Arcanologist is I think HoFing Ice Block is enough, which is still a ways off though.
My preferred nerf to Glyph would be losing the ability to float mana. "Reduce its cost by 2 this turn"
Also you can combo off with 3 Sorc Apprentices hoping to draw into the 4th. Still 8 mana though
Karsticles
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etUPkiOcEOU
I doubt Blizzard was unaware of this combo. You can OTK any deck outside of Mages with infinite fireballs. I don't think Blizzard agrees with you on infinite value. I think they're just making a lazy change to Dreadsteed. After all, the Dreadsteed isn't losing its infinite value.
I have by ramping +innervate to get him out turn 4-5 and following with moonglade and/or nourish
EDIT: on a losing streak now because all I face are aggro with perfect curves.
SonicXtreme
Member
renomage with jaina hero card and thaussian is going to be even more stupid in wild
That doesn't say much, all good decks have above 50% win rate. In Standard it's the highest at around 53%.
It's still in tier 1 though across all formats. Even with all the counters and techs present in Wild, it still dominates.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
they've never nerfed for wild since introducing standard have they?
Dreadsteed is getting nerfed SPECIFICALLY for Wild.
Kripp on Jaina Death Knight, making some crazy predictions:
https://youtu.be/1JF7wlPvbEk?t=19m14s
SonicXtreme
Member
tbh i think it's an excuse since it's had mad complaints on reddit every 4th brawl. the fact that they don't half ships cannons ping is pretty glaring.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I guess I wouldn't really count it though.
cartographer
Member
Poor quest rogue joke.