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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
- Thread starter ZealousD
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I give you 8/8
Especially if you keep freezing shit all the time.
This card makes a LOT more sense now.
lol no. It's still pretty bad.
Officerrob
Banned
Yeah, I still wouldn't run that card
Karsticles
Member
I don't see how it is bad.
Deathlord is a 2/8 taunt that can pull any minion from their deck as the penalty for it dying early.
This card is a 2/8 taunt that makes you skip a turn as the penalty for it dying early.
Those seem like comparable losses to me. I think this card will see play.
LyleLanley
Banned
That card seems like a buff for evolve more than anything.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
the only relevant mana costs for evolve as of now are 2 and 6.
Yes every now and then you'll evolve Barnes or a random 2 drop but those occurences are rare enough that nothing in the costs 3 to 5 and 7+ are meaningfull buffs to evolve.
Yes every now and then you'll evolve Barnes or a random 2 drop but those occurences are rare enough that nothing in the costs 3 to 5 and 7+ are meaningfull buffs to evolve.
I didn't say it was good, I said I understand why it was printed now.
skipping a turn is far worse than summoning a random minion for your opponent that, by the way, might even be a favorable since that might be battlecry minion.
You lose one of the first turns on tempo if this is played on curve.
The Last One
Member
Opening packs first by a tiny amount.
But the problem is the welcome pack can give you a duplicate legendary. So who's to say the free death knight they give you from the solo content couldn't also be a duplicate?
Karsticles
Member
Packs then card of course.
They said the solo content won't give a dupe.
I would get free hero first
To prevent some bug like let say you cannot get dupe from pack but get dupe from reward
Edit : they already confirm its never dupe from reward too? Nice.. but just to be safe I'd get the free DK first
Karsticles
Member
Well, you can base your decision around an assumption of incompetence or not. If you assume they are incompetent, then you have to ask yourself how badly they fucked it all up and how. lol
and that was a whiff.
they said all legendary obtained should have the same rules, even those from the welcome pack
LyleLanley
Banned
I really hope the Warlock DK has some shitty discard mechanic. Maybe you can only play it by discarding it or something.
The weapon alone will keep it in play for a loooooooooooong time I bet
(save this post for when no one plays it 3 weeks from now!)
Jarraxus must have been a real problem when it came time to design the warlock hero card.
Control pally is still a top tier deck, and this card helps strengthen the deck.
I hope we can have a slower meta.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I am a little convinced that the new giant works in aggro shaman. I've pitched the idea on comphs and someone doesn't think it'll work, or w/e. Told me to do the math and it wouldn't work out to play this giant by 7.
Well, I did the math and by turn 7 you have 28 mana. And you only need 11 to be overload. It's definitely doable if your cards fit the curve well enough.
I even thought about dust devil since it's 1 mana 2 overload. But I don't think that is required. I think you want to run earth elemental, perhaps even the new 3 drop as well. A 2/8 3 drop protects your board heavily, then you got FTT to take advantage of the 8 health. I think a lot of fine tuning would have to take place though, and there might be a few missing pieces to make it work.
It is of course a slower aggro deck. But I think that is fine. Most of the game you're playing heavy tempo and then finally you're playing an earth elemental or doomhammer and dropping an 8/8 on the board in the same turn. You won't need it to hit 0 to be worth playing either so you might get it out before turn 7.
Well, I did the math and by turn 7 you have 28 mana. And you only need 11 to be overload. It's definitely doable if your cards fit the curve well enough.
I even thought about dust devil since it's 1 mana 2 overload. But I don't think that is required. I think you want to run earth elemental, perhaps even the new 3 drop as well. A 2/8 3 drop protects your board heavily, then you got FTT to take advantage of the 8 health. I think a lot of fine tuning would have to take place though, and there might be a few missing pieces to make it work.
It is of course a slower aggro deck. But I think that is fine. Most of the game you're playing heavy tempo and then finally you're playing an earth elemental or doomhammer and dropping an 8/8 on the board in the same turn. You won't need it to hit 0 to be worth playing either so you might get it out before turn 7.
I dont know
If you ask me there will be some serious consideration to just play the DK instead Tirion in midrange murloc deck for instant weapon swing and heal
Heal for 10 is no joke
Altho you dont wanna lose the murloc recruit hero power in murloc deck
Karsticles
Member
Oh man, it all makes sense now. I knew that Mike Elliot, a MtG designer, was working on this set. What I just learned now is that Mike Elliot is most known for designing the Urza block of cards. Even to this day, the Urza block is regarded as one of the most broken card sets in the game. It has so many ridiculous cards, and so much broken stuff, that it led a considerable portion of the MtG playerbase to quit.
Mike Elliot also worked on the next expansion, so we can expect more of the crazy stuff we've seen so far with KotFT. Regardless of how the meta turns out, I hope we can all agree that Blizzard has been hitting the ball out of the park with the new concepts they have been introducing in these last two sets. I was feeling down on the game with Gadgetzan, which I mostly regard as a bad set. But Un'Goro was a great attempt at branching Hearthstone out into new concept territory like Old Gods was, and Frozen Throne is doing great things as well.
At this point, I am filled with confidence that the next set will be extraordinary.
Check out some of the broken stuff WotC had to ban from the Urza set:
http://magiccards.info/query?q=(e:ud/en+or+e:ul/en+or+e:us/en)+restricted:vintage&v=card&s=cname
Mike Elliot also worked on the next expansion, so we can expect more of the crazy stuff we've seen so far with KotFT. Regardless of how the meta turns out, I hope we can all agree that Blizzard has been hitting the ball out of the park with the new concepts they have been introducing in these last two sets. I was feeling down on the game with Gadgetzan, which I mostly regard as a bad set. But Un'Goro was a great attempt at branching Hearthstone out into new concept territory like Old Gods was, and Frozen Throne is doing great things as well.
At this point, I am filled with confidence that the next set will be extraordinary.
Check out some of the broken stuff WotC had to ban from the Urza set:
http://magiccards.info/query?q=(e:ud/en+or+e:ul/en+or+e:us/en)+restricted:vintage&v=card&s=cname
If it's not turn into other minion, then it will keep its current hp
Once you lose 2 warleaders and megasaurs I think it's safe to play it.
cartographer
Member
Just might not be enough good overload in standard to make it work. Tunnel Trogg and Totem Golem really carried. It's a no brainer in Wild.
cartographer
Member
"If you've discarded 20 cards, win the game."
But how am I suppose to discard that many cards without discarding the cards I need to discard other cards?
".... Moving on."
We've already joked about "discard your opponent" or similar.
To be serious, for 10 mana, I think the battlecry has to be crazy like:
* Discard your opponent's hand, or
* Add all your discarded cards to your hand
Someone said warlock just needs a Reno heal to full effect. That would work but be kind of ordinary.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Trump leaked that the Warrior Deathknight can dual wield.
Makes the draw two weapons card and Grapplehammer + Gorehowl for the lethal a little better.
Makes the draw two weapons card and Grapplehammer + Gorehowl for the lethal a little better.
Karsticles
Member
Zero chance. It would just be an ultimate "I win" button for Control Warlock. You can't force allow someone to empty control and combo deck hands with a single card.
Could it have a hero power that forces a card to be discarded every turn? Maybe, but there's no precedent for that, and even though it sounds cool there isn't anything in Warlock to support that kind of card.
I really think that it will be something either demon-oriented or discard-oriented. I suspect that, with the Warlock legendary being discard-oriented, the DK card will as well. I think it will be Blizzard's golden cap on an attempt to make Control Discardlock an archetype through Lakkari Portal as an alternative to Jaraxxus as a win condition. The stars are aligned perfectly for such a card.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe a "Both players discard a card" at the absolute most for a hero power.
You can technically already use double fools bane in a single turn if you can facetank 8 hits, for maximum memeage.
You can technically already use double fools bane in a single turn if you can facetank 8 hits, for maximum memeage.
Karsticles
Member
Both players discarding would just make it a mid-range finisher that automatically beats control decks. Because you are basically forcing Priest decks and such to empty their hands in inefficient ways or discard them entirely. It would be the most powerful card in the game, and it would be miserable to play against. Even as someone who loves to play Warlock, and loved playing discard control in MtG, I don't think it's a healthy direction for Hearthstone to go in.
Though I would play it if they made it.
Though I would play it if they made it.
If there is nothing to devolve into, the minion is unaffected by the spell. Same with evolve. But yes, this new giant will evolve into another 8/8, effectively healing it.
That giant seems good. A bug card that will be cheap in a mid-range deck but the time the website rolls around. You don't play it in aggro b/c losing the tempo for overloading that much probably isn't worth it, unless every card you're playing is totem golem level good. Even then, you'd be fucked up on curve pretty hard.
Are there totem golem level overloading cards for most Mana costs? I actually am not sure.
Are there totem golem level overloading cards for most Mana costs? I actually am not sure.