Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Does Pally have a difficult time with aggro? Aggro ain't even getting pushed much with this set.
If we've reached critical mass of Divine Shield minions potentially but it'll have to eke out Murlocs.
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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Bonemare is #25?
Reddit is gonna get knocked on their ass when that card is playedeverywherein arena.
That's more accurate.
toddhunter
Member
It is powerful because it is an aggro card and aggro wins.
For 2 mana you now get:
A 2/1
A 2/1 with divine shield and taunt.
A few turns later you then draw six more cards with divine favor while laughing at their 9 drops.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Golden animations seem kind of underwhelming this set. These are probably my favorites.
Where can I check this?
BananasWithGuns
Member
Hearthpwn and Hearthhead both have all the golden cards up. Hearthhead has the voicelines as well although some are missing or in the wrong spot.
That's more accurate.
I'm getting flashbacks to the time where I said Firelands Portal was going to see play in Constructed and everybody was "nuh uh it's only good in arena."
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
dota 3: sorry not sorry
Hey guys. Raxus and I will be starting Phase 2 of the card review stream soon!
https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon
https://www.twitch.tv/zealousdemon
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yes please give me more free stuff
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I'm happy as it's more competition, but this time from a serious competitor.
That being said if it's locked to Steam only then the game is DOA in terms of being a Hearthstone killer. Valve has to have a mobile component if they truly want to compete.
That being said if it's locked to Steam only then the game is DOA in terms of being a Hearthstone killer. Valve has to have a mobile component if they truly want to compete.
Please, Gabe is not stupid, he knows where the money is.
I welcome the competition, and I have no doubt Valve can build a good card game with the same level polish as Hearthstone does. At the end of the day, weirdly enough,maybe the only thing can swing me is the team's responsiveness to players' feedback. In that front, Team 5 has been doing very well the last couple of months.
And have a million lootboxes to dress your minions and heroes up, lol.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I play Hearthstone and it's the only Blizzard game I've played
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
It seems like it won't be a hearthstone clone
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/08/valve-announces-artifact-a-dota-themed-digital-card-game/
also ouch, 2018... I guess that is not that far away... but could be a whole year or longer still
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/08/valve-announces-artifact-a-dota-themed-digital-card-game/
also ouch, 2018... I guess that is not that far away... but could be a whole year or longer still
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
sounds more like a clash royale competitor.
SodiumBenzoate
Member
F2P game based on another F2P game, hmm
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
No game can touch Hearthstone's UI. That's one reason it is so dominant.
I think you play that guy with divine shield and spelldamage in control warlock. It makes defile way better, works with your mortal coils and soulfires.
You play 2x doomguard, 2x void walker and the new 5 drops demon and maybe malch imp as your demons. You don't want to run many discard cards, soulfire and doomguard is all you play, these are just good.
You play warlock legendary card not because it's good but it's the best minion with lifesteal you can play. Maybe add one of those 5 drop 4/4s for redundancy too.
Now corpsetaker can gain lifesteal, taunt and divine shield. Rest of the cards the usual good cards in handlock, I don't think hellfire is necessary and you don't want to play anything that damages your face. Mountain Giants depending on the meta.
You play Jarraxus and Guldan. Guldan basically hopefully summons 2x doomguard and taunt, for burst and stabilizing. Depending on the match up you play one that fits and you can always override Jarraxus with Guldan to get your hp up or add burst. That's all the top end you need.
I think it could be tier 3 something like that. That's what I've been thinking so far. Maybe Reynad is right. Handlock did work when Un'goro came out but after mage become popular basically it was impossible to play it. Maybe if burn decks fall off. Pirate warrior is more winnable than mage.
You play 2x doomguard, 2x void walker and the new 5 drops demon and maybe malch imp as your demons. You don't want to run many discard cards, soulfire and doomguard is all you play, these are just good.
You play warlock legendary card not because it's good but it's the best minion with lifesteal you can play. Maybe add one of those 5 drop 4/4s for redundancy too.
Now corpsetaker can gain lifesteal, taunt and divine shield. Rest of the cards the usual good cards in handlock, I don't think hellfire is necessary and you don't want to play anything that damages your face. Mountain Giants depending on the meta.
You play Jarraxus and Guldan. Guldan basically hopefully summons 2x doomguard and taunt, for burst and stabilizing. Depending on the match up you play one that fits and you can always override Jarraxus with Guldan to get your hp up or add burst. That's all the top end you need.
I think it could be tier 3 something like that. That's what I've been thinking so far. Maybe Reynad is right. Handlock did work when Un'goro came out but after mage become popular basically it was impossible to play it. Maybe if burn decks fall off. Pirate warrior is more winnable than mage.
I mean you shouldn't yet. But valve tends to do a good job with their games.
Well I don't care about Warcraft, I play Hearthstone
Blizzard and Valve made good games.
CraigerGamer
Member
One thing I've learned in the lead up to the next expansion, I'd probably pay money to watch Kibler and Brode in a buddy cop movie. Yesterday's stream was highly entertaining.
toddhunter
Member
Doomguard 5 mana 5/7 charge. If you have Guldan and jaraxxus in your hand discard both of them.
patches, draw it on turn 1 :b
shit happens, doesn't mean it's terrible. I know I know. It's very optimistic....
True for me too. I'll have to keep an eye for that game.
Now, they would definetely need to put that game on mobile if they want me on board
From the start or after it became a hit?
The thing is going to appeal to it's core demographic until it breaks out. Hearthstone grew on the back of Warcraft/Starcraft streamers and blew up when it broke through.
UI and gorgeous art. The art is very disney-like, I love their whimsical version of "serious" themes. KoFT is probably the most serious themed overall so far.
I forgot to comment on that but I agree, the livestream gameplay method of revealing cards was really enjoyable.
Karsticles
Member
I think The Lich King isn't that strong of a card unless you get Frostmourne. I think it might see play in Quest Warrior, but not much else.
In the long term maybe. I may have overrated it.
In the shorter term, e.g. the next 2-3 weeks ESPECIALLY in standard, it's going to be played constantly, plus occasionally drawn from Stonehill Defender which may also be played constantly.
Here are the scores from me and Raxus.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cjH-wwnpXzU85nNleFx5CqSbEPZ0q_irIDfPgnkgCSM/edit?usp=sharing
I was actually really harsh on this set. Usually I aim to have the 3 star category as the biggest category but in the end I gave way more cards 2 stars than I expected. And I had a lot fewer 4 star cards than I usually aim to have. The fact that there's so many cards in Standard right now might be a contributing factor.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cjH-wwnpXzU85nNleFx5CqSbEPZ0q_irIDfPgnkgCSM/edit?usp=sharing
I was actually really harsh on this set. Usually I aim to have the 3 star category as the biggest category but in the end I gave way more cards 2 stars than I expected. And I had a lot fewer 4 star cards than I usually aim to have. The fact that there's so many cards in Standard right now might be a contributing factor.
I think the fact its 8/8 taunt with upside is bigger deal than the generated card, and its really big deal.
You know I bet this set will have a big renaissance once Standard rotates again and this set is the older one like the Old Gods or karazhan is now. I don't think you were overly harsh tho.
Lich King is going to be super good in druid because you play it early. Since Boom and Rag going away, ramp got weaker. Even though we got more ramp cards, you didn't have powerful cards like those to play anymore. Now there is their hero for 7 mana and Lich King for 8. These are very scary. Ysera/DW etc are too expensive and come later no matter what and aren't even as good.
Karsticles
Member
An 8/8 taunt for 8 isn't anything special, I think. In most matches, he won't live beyond a turn, so you're just getting one extra card. Ysera sees no play, and while she doesn't have Frostmourne, all of her spells are generally playable, while Lich King's spells range from unplayable to mediocre to Frostmourne, depending on your deck and situation. In 7/8 plays you won't get Frostmourne, and if you look at all the other stuff you can get I think the card becomes questionable.
I think it will have its place in a few decks, but people are going nuts for something really inconsistent and risky (tempo loss). Like, the only deck I would run this in over Ragnaros in Wild is Quest Warrior, and a Taunt Druid or Big Body Druid deck if that ever becomes a thing.