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[zoukka]

I don't even feel about UI. It's a win more card, usually I die to savage roar or jade cantrips against Druid, UI is pretty bad tempo, the draw is the perhaps busted part of it.

And as always it all comes down to ramp and how safe it is for the druid to ramp up. Cards like Spreading Plague are the problem if Druid cannot be punished for spending multiple turns just ramping up and drawing cards.

 

[SodiumBenzoate]

I don't even feel about UI. It's a win more card, usually I die to savage roar or jade cantrips against Druid, UI is pretty bad tempo, the draw is the perhaps busted part of it.

And as always it all comes down to ramp and how safe it is for the druid to ramp up. Cards like Spreading Plague are the problem if Druid cannot be punished for spending multiple turns just ramping up and drawing cards.

Yeah, UI would be a pretty bad card in any other class. I actually had someone UI me on turn 4 yesterday (coin Jade blossom on 2, Jade blossom on 3, double innervate UI on 4). I lost that game.

 

[fertygo]

UI Made Druid can cut a lot of card, I feel that's the most important part of it

its made they have 5-6 free slot for deck building that's huge

one card should never that versatile

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Druid and Paladin are the two most represented classes at level 1.

Druid is more than double the frequency of Paladin, then Paladin is nearly double the frequency of both Priest and Warrior.

Hmm

True to the World of Warcraft balance.

UI Made Druid can cut a lot of card, I feel that's the most important part of it

its made they have 5-6 free slot for deck building that's huge

one card should never that versatile

Yup

Its effects total 20 mana for a total of 10 mana.

 

[Vanillalite]

I don't even feel about UI. It's a win more card, usually I die to savage roar or jade cantrips against Druid, UI is pretty bad tempo, the draw is the perhaps busted part of it.

And as always it all comes down to ramp and how safe it is for the druid to ramp up. Cards like Spreading Plague are the problem if Druid cannot be punished for spending multiple turns just ramping up and drawing cards.

UI gives you reliable card draw.

It's not win more. It's win at a higher rate due to less rng and the need to combo cards like auctioneer.

Again the thing with Hearthstone is about moving the %s. If UI can up your win rate over auctioneer combo by say 5% that's huge in the grand scheme of things.

 

[zoukka]

UI gives you reliable card draw.

It's not win more. It's win at a higher rate due to less rng and the need to combo cards like auctioneer.

Again the thing with Hearthstone is about moving the %s. If UI can up your win rate over auctioneer combo by say 5% that's huge in the grand scheme of things.

Obviously. But in a healthy meta, relying on a 10 mana spell should not be safe.

 

[cartographer]

UI Made Druid can cut a lot of card, I feel that's the most important part of it

its made they have 5-6 free slot for deck building that's huge

one card should never that versatile

Yeah this is what makes it so strong. Like they can get away with not including feral rage, or ramping with nourish and of course outright replacing Auctioneer which allows you to use spells more freely. It's nuts.

 

[fertygo]

Obviously. But in a healthy meta, relying on a 10 mana spell should not be safe.

I mean 10 mana for Druid is different for any other class

its closer to what fireland portal cost to mage than actual 10 mana card

and card is jacked up version of fireland portal

 

[Vanillalite]

Obviously. But in a healthy meta, relying on a 10 mana spell should not be safe.

That's less of a problem with UI (IMO) and more of a symptom of other classes in the current Meta.

I'm sure many will disagree though.

Also its status will be interesting to see when Jade rotates out.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

UI is not win more and it's not even really a 10 mana card in druid due to their ramp and innervate.

I had a game where I pyro/equality a board of some 30/50 stats and they had 1 card in hand and top decked UI. It lets them be stupid with their cards and go all in to not get punished in the end.

I can see why it might feel like a win more card, because druid is so good in other areas you're often already winning... and now you're winning more... but it's not only a win-more card.

Also its status will be interesting to see when Jade rotates out.

It's not like jade is the only good druid deck atm.

 

[Blizzard]

I don't have much time to play anyway right now, but it feels like I basically have to abandon my priest experiment and play druid instead before it gets nerfed. I need to craft a second Ultimate Infestation I'm guessing? Are there any required legendaries for the strongest deck(s)?

 

[Twinguistics]

Anyone encountered a Lady Deathwhisper bug? I've healed my big dragon to five but still couldn't attack? What's going on?

It's really annoying and happened in two matches. Will it ever work?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Also its status will be interesting to see when Jade rotates out.

there's at least 2 decks in druid relying on the card and only one of them is using jade idol.

 

[TankUP]

Anyone encountered a Lady Deathwhisper bug? I've healed my big dragon to five but still couldn't attack? What's going on?

It's really annoying and happened in two matches. Will it ever work?

Try using the 0 mana priest spell Silence. No need to heal it. I beat the mission with silence and all the cheapest taunts.

 

[fertygo]

there's at least 2 decks in druid relying on the card and only one of them is using jade idol.

I argue Taunt Druid not necessarily reliant to UI but play the card anyway because its so busted

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Try using the 0 mana priest spell Silence. No need to heal it. I beat the mission with silence and all the cheapest taunts.

I just played Jade Druid, even acccidentally killed the dragon

I argue Taunt Druid not necessarily reliant to UI but play the card anyway because its so busted

the deck has almost 0 removal outside of it and is fairly mana intensive demanding ramp.

 

[veryslowhand]

what is good against priest?

especially that deck that revives the 9 drop many times

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

HS disconnected while I was swinging for lethal with Leroy and was unable to reconnect, the fuck.

 

[Keyser Soze]

HS disconnected while I was swinging for lethal with Leroy and was unable to reconnect, the fuck.

Same here. Was just about to move up to Rank 6 with a win.

I am pretty sure I caused this with my awful luck!

 

[Twinguistics]

Try using the 0 mana priest spell Silence. No need to heal it. I beat the mission with silence and all the cheapest taunts.

OK thanks, I'll try that. I shouldn't have to do a workaround, Blizzard sound fix this mess.

 

[Beckx]

what is good against priest?

especially that deck that revives the 9 drop many times

aggro or raza priest.

if they get lucky and have Barnes + ES in hand + coin then you're in for a game. but if not you can rush them with aggro decks and roll over them.

raza priest can fatigue it or win via HP.

 

[Jadax]

Anyone else not able to log into HS? EU server.

 

[thepotatoman]

Wow, Anomolus gets lifesteal from every minion it hurts with the AOE too? That seems really good. I wonder why people aren't running it for the relatively easy full heal.

 

[FieryBalrog]

There might be some behind the scenes shenanigans to force 50% (god I hate hidden MMR bullshit on top of a regular ranking system) but I reeeally doubt they fix match-ups.

Hearthstone doesn't have MMR (under Legend rank).

It's the one Blizzard game that doesnt.

 

[Hybris]

Wow, Anomolus gets lifesteal from every minion it hurts with the AOE too? That seems really good. I wonder why people aren't running it for the relatively easy full heal.

Because it's not relatively easy to kill anomolus and it's super super slow. People run Gedon for the instant board impact and sufficient healing.

 

[fertygo]

Wow, Anomolus gets lifesteal from every minion it hurts with the AOE too? That seems really good. I wonder why people aren't running it for the relatively easy full heal.

Baron Geddon is infinite more easier to play and actually can remove something the turn he played

 

[BlackBuzzard]

EU down. Free packs for NA.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Same here. Was just about to move up to Rank 6 with a win.

I am pretty sure I caused this with my awful luck!

Seems like it's an EU issue

 

[veryslowhand]

yes EU down

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Not seeing any free packs on NA

 

[LyleLanley]

I hate quest mage. My board gets frozen constantly, he gets multiple ice blocks and there's absolutely nothing I can do but watch my opponent get the inevitable OTK.

 

[Ketch]

Raza + DK priest + archbishop benedictus is the ultimate salt factory.

Excuse me while i play solitaire until you die by your own cards.

 

[Grief.exe]

Hearthstone doesn't have MMR (under Legend rank).

It's the one Blizzard game that doesnt.

I was under the impression there's some loose MMR for Casual mode.

 

[Keyser Soze]

EU is back. I was given a loss

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Not seeing any free packs on NA

that was a joke on how preferential Blizzard treats NA

 

[Twinguistics]

I've Unpacked Moorabi and Valeera DK, they both suck right? I can't imagine freeze shaman will be a thing?

Sigh, I'm so down on this expansion. It's rubbish, hardly any new mechanics (boring life steal from every other card game and, what, the death knights?) and no new deck archtypes at all that I can tell. It's just boring jade druid and quest mage still.

Someone tell me I'm wrong as I want to be wrong.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Quest Mage is new in so far that it might be viable, taunt druid and some more fringe decks have also sprung up.

Rogue is bad verdict stll out on Valeera

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

holy crap everyone is playing priest

time to drag out hunter then

 

[thepotatoman]

Any tips on how to build a Patron Warrior deck? I'm 10-9 at rank 15 with it in wild, which is pretty bad for me. I really want to do something with the Rotface and Warrior DK I opened in packs.

Current Decklist

 

[manhack]

I've Unpacked Moorabi and Valeera DK, they both suck right? I can't imagine freeze shaman will be a thing?

Sigh, I'm so down on this expansion. It's rubbish, hardly any new mechanics (boring life steal from every other card game and, what, the death knights?) and no new deck archtypes at all that I can tell. It's just boring jade druid and quest mage still.

Someone tell me I'm wrong as I want to be wrong.

Priest, Warlock, and Paladin all have competitive decks at the moment. check stuff like https://hsreplay.net/decks/trending/ for some of the decks of the moment.

 

[Twinguistics]

Thanks but that proved my point, the top two are jade druid and mid range hunter, neither of which are running many frozen throne cards.

 

[sibarraz]

Hunter is a good MU against priest?

 

[cartographer]

Thanks but that proved my point, the top two are jade druid and mid range hunter, neither of which are running many frozen throne cards.

Do we have different definitions of "proved" or am I missing something?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Do we have different definitions of "proved" or am I missing something?

Confirmation bias.

 

[Grief.exe]

Thanks but that proved my point, the top two are jade druid and mid range hunter, neither of which are running many frozen throne cards.

Jumping to conclusions now is a little silly, decks haven't been optimized for the meta. Your argument is exactly why those decks are doing so well, they are finding success with previously optimized decks.

Ultimate Infestation is a little insane though now that I think about it. It's basically one of the best Kazakus potions you can make and you don't even have to hamstring your deck by running no duplicates.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Hunter is a good MU against priest?

Hunter is rarely a good matchup against Priest because Potion of Madness exists, but that might change with Priest running mostly a one off deck this meta

 

[Beckx]

Thanks but that proved my point, the top two are jade druid and mid range hunter, neither of which are running many frozen throne cards.

oh those hunters, ruining the meta again

 

[Bizazedo]

Just managed to do Howlfiend, Treachery, and Defile on an opposing Priest. Wiped the board out and knocked six cards out of his hand, including Amara and N'zoth.

Biggest surprise was him not immediately conceding.

 

[Twinguistics]

So are there no new exciting archetypes to try out at all yet? I'm looking for a reason to jump back in but don't see one at all. It looks the same as a month ago. What has this expansion changed?

 

[Professor Lich]

Priest, Warlock, and Paladin all have competitive decks at the moment. check stuff like https://hsreplay.net/decks/trending/ for some of the decks of the moment.

I have to love that all decks listed cost 8K+ dust and then there's Hunter with sub 1k. Doesn't mean it's good but I find it funny.