I think it is unintuitive to just not have certain cards show up in the discover pool, but one thing I have always thought is that cards should not be able to discover themselves or other cards that can generate infinite value. Kabal courier, glyph, etc should at the very least not be able to discover themselves, even if they can discover other discovers.
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I think it is unintuitive to just not have certain cards show up in the discover pool, but one thing I have always thought is that cards should not be able to discover themselves or other cards that can generate infinite value. Kabal courier, glyph, etc should at the very least not be able to discover themselves, even if they can discover other discovers.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I like it too... when I get it off the 1 drop lol.
SonicXtreme
Member
dredd is cool in theory but in a world where bonemare exists....I never could find room for swamp king in decks last expansion, yet this season I find room for 2 7 drops in my hunter deck now that bonemare is around.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
In my opinion:
Tier 1
Paladin
Druid
Tier 2
Rogue
Warlock
Mage
Tier 3
Hunter
Priest
Shaman
Tier Warrior
Warrior
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Brawl design:
build a deck
make your mulligan decision
then the AI takes over until 1 side wins
most interactive
build a deck
make your mulligan decision
then the AI takes over until 1 side wins
most interactive
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Webweave and Cryptlord commons
Druid of the Swarm and Spreading Plague rares
And even at an epic, you can't ignore Ultimate Infestation being an auto win. It's not that unlikely to get it with the offering bonuses. It's like this expansion's Meteor.
Druid is even particularly good at the synergy meta. Beasts are easy to draft around, Eggs are easy to draft around, and even 5+ attack and Jade aren't terrible. Compare to Mage who has, like what, Secrets? Mage has insane legendary synergies, but those are still legendary.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
just skipping out on that pack every week?
I haven't been skipping out on them, but I genuinely haven't had fun with one in a while. I just wish there were more co-op brawls.
I know people rage against quest mage a lot. I even do it, it's quite exasperating, but that deck requires a good amount of thinking. A single bad draw, or a bad played spell or a bad trade can completely ruin the plan. I've been learning that from watching toast consistently play that deck.
Seriously still can't believe Blizzard didn't find a middle ground to reward players who play both Ranked ladders while keeping the pressure light on people who don't want to play both Ranked ladders. You should be earning something for that, much less two season chests!
I didn't mean to hit rank 5 on both ladders, but I found the climbs this month to be super chill. Too bad I can't get two chests, lol.
Can you post that deck list?
slightconfuse
Banned
Didn't exprement either this brawl. What has been the craziest combo so far
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Druid builds itself, combo with Stonetusk Boar and Violet Illusionist.
right now druid is the most busted, followed by paladin, both usually win the first turn, if they don't, the opponent most likely will win on next turn
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/...zen-throne-nzoth-control-warrior-august-2017/
Of all the slow warrior decks I've seen this season, this is the least bad.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
lol at turn 3.
cartographer
Member
I played mostly Hunter and Warlock this month. DK Rexxar is fun if you can make use of him. Dispatch Kodo plus poisonous is great. Warlock is better than Ungoro but still a bit crap. Defile is strong and fun. Dreadlord strong and fun. DK is great if you don't die. I don't think Warlock is that far away though.
Ultimately though I didn't enjoy ladder all that much. It's not just druid. Neither of the priest decks are fun to play against. Exodia Mage is a thing. PW and Murloc Paladin are almost a relief at this point, which is crazy.
Fixing druid will help some of that, but there's other issues and I'm not sure it's something they can realistically deal with (or even want to) before rotation.
Ultimately though I didn't enjoy ladder all that much. It's not just druid. Neither of the priest decks are fun to play against. Exodia Mage is a thing. PW and Murloc Paladin are almost a relief at this point, which is crazy.
Fixing druid will help some of that, but there's other issues and I'm not sure it's something they can realistically deal with (or even want to) before rotation.
this brawl is fantastic. I'm about to get my 30 wins and it isn't even 10am here
turn 3??? damn, you are running a slow deck there.
turn 3??? damn, you are running a slow deck there.
Have you tried the giants/dead man's hand warrior? I played a bit of rage_hs's list about 2 weeks ago. I'm certain I'm misplaying frequently, which is pretty much the only deck I can say that about. Tbh I think that's why I was enjoying it so much.
Edit: forgot to link the list (http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/rages-kft-dead-mans-blood-warrior-august-2017/)
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-60/
New data reaper report is out. There must be a bug, they have decks in tier one that aren't Druid, but Papa Reynad told me that Druid is the only deck that can win. :thinking:
I don't like it. I never liked Blood Warrior or Worgen Warrior either. I'm not a combo deck guy.
New data reaper report is out. There must be a bug, they have decks in tier one that aren't Druid, but Papa Reynad told me that Druid is the only deck that can win. :thinking:
I don't like it. I never liked Blood Warrior or Worgen Warrior either. I'm not a combo deck guy.
Is this the most polarizing meta in Hearthstone history? I know there have been oppressive classes in the past, but this is mind blowing.
Wow this quote from the article
"The meta has been locked into a feedback loop and we doubt theres a way out unless cards are changed. The circle of life is over."
Wow this quote from the article
"The meta has been locked into a feedback loop and we doubt theres a way out unless cards are changed. The circle of life is over."
I cut Geist from my priest and control pally lists. They rarely have any impact on whether I win or lose vs Jade Druid. I haven't laddered much with Warrior because everything but PirWar fucking sucks.
Fuck Pirate Warrior. That deck being so good is probably why they haven't printed many good cards for warrior in a year.
Hopefully they over-tune Hunter pretty soon because I'm gonna be working on that for my 8th gold class once I get Priest. (Should be done in a week or so with that one.)
Overtuning tends to happen over multiple sets. They haven't given aggro hunter good tools lately so it will likely be several more sets before it becomes op. I think at a minimum it will need post rotation.
There's the groundwork for a decent Secret deck and/or a decent Deathrattle deck.
Remember when Drak OP single handedly made Dragon Priest a high tier deck? Maybe something like that can happen.
As a player, I like when Hunter is out of the meta. As someone grinding for golden portraits, I regret I wasn't aware enough of the meta when I started to do it when I first joined the game and Undertaker Hunter was the best deck.
So I started looking at which Death Knights were good since the meta started stabilizing and it made more sense to craft things, and it looks like Malfurion, Valeera, Garrosh, Anduin, Gul'dan, Uther, Jaina, and Rexxar are all played in real decks? Like there's really just one that isn't used?
Mind, I realize Hunter isn't very good right now.
As a side note, Amaz will be at the MTG reveal, which I'm sure will end just great.
Edit: Wait, I just noticed Thrall is in this Token Shaman list. I just missed him as he costs 5.
Mind, I realize Hunter isn't very good right now.
As a side note, Amaz will be at the MTG reveal, which I'm sure will end just great.
Edit: Wait, I just noticed Thrall is in this Token Shaman list. I just missed him as he costs 5.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
I think the most played right now are Anduin,Malfurion and Guldangerous maybe Thrall. Kinda salty i only got 3 heroes and 2 of em aren't played that much.
This isn't what Tempostorm's meta report says....please read the legend.
Nothing about it is really wrong. Druid is overtuned and warps the meta drastically, which is why you even see stuff like Pirate Warrior sneaking further up. How can you tech vs. Pirates when nearly 40% of the ladder is Druid?
The latest VS data is extremely concerning, although not at all surprising. The winrate of slower decks has absolutely bottomed out.
They are used because people want to make use of them. The viability of the decks that utilize them can be questionable in practice. They will fare much better than quests because they don't have the same downsides though.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The DKs are pure power creep, they stick out even among the generally overtuned standard sets. While they are exciting at first but we'll tire of seeing them eventually, some quicker than others.