It's super expensive to make greedy wild decks. But yeah the best wild decks are super cheap if you had lots of standard cards.
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It's super expensive to make greedy wild decks. But yeah the best wild decks are super cheap if you had lots of standard cards.
19-3 with Kolento's Elememtal Paladin deck (plus 1 change). It's pretty good.
I think he's playing it now
Yeah, gotta love 'em.
yup, he plays the 1 mana buff spells instead of the Stonehill Defender though which I think is weaker.
RumblingRosco
Member
How is Lyra? Seems like she's getting more use than most people expected.
The combination of Lyra, priests apprentice and the 2 mana discover a copy of your own spell card seem to be enabling silence priest as a fun deck.
i was being sarcastic. shit is fucking idiotic. priest doesn't really have to know or play their fucking deck, they just smash their face into the phone or keyboard and hope to highroll.
I have the same "issue" with Priest. On the other hand I'm kinda happy they don't track wins beyond 500.
Lone_Prodigy
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Opened 45 packs so far. 3 legendaries: the Warlock one, Hemet, and quest Rogue. Going to take awhile getting all the quest cards.
In the meantime, I'll play Hunter.
In the meantime, I'll play Hunter.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
"Quest rogue is such a brain dead deck" as proved by HGG casters.
They said evisc on igneous would lead to a loss. No, it was his only chance to win.
Then later they said hotform would trade. After going face they claim it's a straight forward deck. They said then he wins with a charge top deck, ignoring the fact that the deck has a ton of bounces to win too.
Then when hotform wins, because he played towards that lethal out with a bounce card top deck, only the "Quest rogue is brain dead" crowd is surprised.
They said evisc on igneous would lead to a loss. No, it was his only chance to win.
Then later they said hotform would trade. After going face they claim it's a straight forward deck. They said then he wins with a charge top deck, ignoring the fact that the deck has a ton of bounces to win too.
Then when hotform wins, because he played towards that lethal out with a bounce card top deck, only the "Quest rogue is brain dead" crowd is surprised.
I know, right?
I saw how many people were misplaying that deck on the first day and I knew immediately that it wasn't braindead.
it beat me and it didn't take 20 turns, must be brain dead.
Edit: btw
MY BOY HOTFORM, OH CANADA!
62 decks and got 6 Legendaries which is pretty amazing odds wise:
Ozruk
Ozruk
Sunkeeper Tarim
Mage Quest
Hemet, Jungle Hunter
Elise Trailblazer
So Tarim and Mage Quest I was happy about, but Ozruk seems pretty pointless unless I go heavy elemental, Elise I'll definitely use for fun decks, but the real head scratcher is Hemet.
Has anyone been messing with decks built around him? My understanding w/ a deck built around him would be a lot of 1-3 drops for early curve then stack the nice heavy top deckers which will come one after the other once you activate Hemet. Pretty interesting but don't know how viable a deck that would be.
Ozruk
Ozruk
Sunkeeper Tarim
Mage Quest
Hemet, Jungle Hunter
Elise Trailblazer
So Tarim and Mage Quest I was happy about, but Ozruk seems pretty pointless unless I go heavy elemental, Elise I'll definitely use for fun decks, but the real head scratcher is Hemet.
Has anyone been messing with decks built around him? My understanding w/ a deck built around him would be a lot of 1-3 drops for early curve then stack the nice heavy top deckers which will come one after the other once you activate Hemet. Pretty interesting but don't know how viable a deck that would be.
She's my favorite Legendary. Getting an endless stream of Priest spells is pretty insane.
The Last One
Member
It's really good to play as Paladin again. I'm using the Murloc deck list from Tidesoftime and it's great.
veryslowhand
Banned
liking that canadian druid deck
These types of posts are not healthy for discussion and have gotten people banned before. Especially that first post, I suggest revising before it's too late.
Sottle is just bad at the game and bad at casting. I have no idea why they keep bringing him along.
casters keep dropping the ball on elemental synergy strategy
"he's just playing the 4/5 to close the game"
not entirely, he plays the elemental so he can activate another taunt next turn
he needs to play the taunt this turn and he needs to get elemental synergy rolling, no mention of that from casters tho.
"he's just playing the 4/5 to close the game"
not entirely, he plays the elemental so he can activate another taunt next turn
he needs to play the taunt this turn and he needs to get elemental synergy rolling, no mention of that from casters tho.
Firebat: Playing the best cards since 2014
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Canada and US swept.
NA confirmed best? lol
NA confirmed best? lol
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'd take Shamanstone over Warriorstone any day. The worst part about it is you always have to mull for PW but then you end up w/ a clunky hand against QW.
When facing Shaman you mulled for slight variants not complete archetypes.
It doesn't help that QW is the most boring deck that managed to be meta for quite some time.
For those complaining about Quest Rogue finishing their quest quickly, I just had a ranked game that was a prime example of how it doesn't happen consistently enough.
Quest Rogue vs. Quest Rogue. I played 3 Swashburglars. I drew cards with novice apprentice and 2 mimic pods.
With that combination, you'd think I would have a good game, right? But no, I couldn't finish and play the quest until TURN 8. I had a single bounce card in my top 14, even after I used mulligan on my whole non-quest starting hand.
By the time I played the quest, they had played the quest the turn before and had 7 5/5 minions on the field, so I instantly lost.
After 20 ranked games, I'm 10/10, certainly not getting past the rank 17-18 barrier. I'll try modifying again and play some more.
Quest Rogue vs. Quest Rogue. I played 3 Swashburglars. I drew cards with novice apprentice and 2 mimic pods.
With that combination, you'd think I would have a good game, right? But no, I couldn't finish and play the quest until TURN 8. I had a single bounce card in my top 14, even after I used mulligan on my whole non-quest starting hand.
By the time I played the quest, they had played the quest the turn before and had 7 5/5 minions on the field, so I instantly lost.
After 20 ranked games, I'm 10/10, certainly not getting past the rank 17-18 barrier. I'll try modifying again and play some more.
Vanillalite
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Still feels like weapons are part of the OP issue in Hearthstone since inception. Too much removal or burst damage. You'll also notice classes rise and fall as they gain/lose their wep cards.
Idk how they fix that this late in the game nor am I sure Blizz wants too.
Idk how they fix that this late in the game nor am I sure Blizz wants too.
Weapons being used as removals is whatever. We have a weapon in the game that can kill 2 20 HP minions and that barely sees ever play. We have a weapon that can kill 4 3 HP minions on the board in a single turn. We have a weapon that can kill 2 5 HP minions without taking any damage on the hero. Hell technically we have a weapon that kill 8 2 HP minions on the board over 4 turns.
The issue has and always will be the ability of weapons to hit face as well.
The issue has and always will be the ability of weapons to hit face as well.
What makes QW more boring then other curve decks in the past, just the fact it´s playing taunts?
Nah, I'd rather take all the shamans and pirate warriors and quest rogues over quest warrior. Fuck that deck and fuck whoever designed it.
What weapon is that? I just went through the weapon list and can't find it.
Speaking of cards I don't know, I just got One-eyed Cheat in the brawl. I think I've literally never seen that card.
Envenom Weapon. Can kill infinite HP minions twice technically speaking. Of course it's hardly good against the enemy hero which makes it balanced.
Envenom?
That's not a weapon, though, it's a spell that affects a weapon.
There are ways to make arcanite reaper stronger for example, but that doesn't mean the base card is the problem.And why twice? If you use it and you have a 3 durability weapon, you could kill 3 infinite HP minions.
Sure I guess it's technically a spell but it works like a weapon with the Rogue hero power.
My point is that powerful single target removals (which is what weapons are) don't create clear imbalances in game play even if they are cost effective. Weapons are super cost effective but you pay with your HP when it comes to removal... however that does not apply when hitting the opponent's face. So what should be a removal that deals with 2 3 HP for some of your own HP sacrificed... turns into 6 damage for 2 mana over two turns. That's a Fireball that instead of costing 4 mana and on one turn, is down across two turns for half the mana.
My point is that powerful single target removals (which is what weapons are) don't create clear imbalances in game play even if they are cost effective. Weapons are super cost effective but you pay with your HP when it comes to removal... however that does not apply when hitting the opponent's face. So what should be a removal that deals with 2 3 HP for some of your own HP sacrificed... turns into 6 damage for 2 mana over two turns. That's a Fireball that instead of costing 4 mana and on one turn, is down across two turns for half the mana.
Karsticles
Member
Agreed, though I think Eternal does a fine job of this as well: if the board has 0 minions on it, THEN the weapon can go face. But the minions "protect" your face. This means weapons are primarily used for removal, but if you are facing a low minion control deck it's not a dead card - best of both worlds.
I am running 2 in N'Zoth Mill Rogue. :-D So much value in one card. Maybe the highest value removal card in the game next to Gorehowl?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
a curvestone deck wins playing on curve. QW durdles around and then flips coins until they grace you with maybe winning.
It's a slog not a contest.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I started with this in my rogue lists, but I think double vilespine slayer ended up being better. I could still fit 1 envenom tbh. It doesn't help vs aggro much or against freeze mage though. Running coldlight oracle instead.
My crappy Kazakus Mage deck is doing pretty well. I lack some cards to make it better, but the only deck I have remotely any trouble against is quest warrior.
EDIT: My experience is at rank 5.
EDIT: 3 infinite fireball mages die before combo or concede to iceblock. hehe, fuck that deck
EDIT2: Deck would not be possible without arcanologist pulling out survival/thinning deck.
EDIT: My experience is at rank 5.
EDIT: 3 infinite fireball mages die before combo or concede to iceblock. hehe, fuck that deck
EDIT2: Deck would not be possible without arcanologist pulling out survival/thinning deck.
Karsticles
Member
Win condition?