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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
- Thread starter ZealousD
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If a 30 + years old mobile player with a full time job like me can make it, you can do it too!
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah it is. I face a priest today that was clearly salty about druids because he roped every turn, and it happened to be the best draw I've ever had with this deck. He couldn't even lightbomb it if he had it thanks to loatheb.
Karma I guess.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I was going to ask why a mobile player would be at a disadvantage, but it's really nice to have Deck Tracker to count your damage for you.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
We really need another Loatheb in standard. I probably wouldn't despise priests so much.
BananasWithGuns
Member
You know the sad thing is we're going to have to wait like 3 weeks for nerfs that should have been implemented almost a month ago at this point.
Karsticles
Member
Yeah, at this point I wonder if the Druid nerfs are going to be too reactionary. That's always worse than people suffering too long, because we all know they won't revert the nerf if it's too much.
To me, the real devils so far of this expansion are DK Priest and Giant [Literally Anything]. Delete that shit.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think we'll wait 1 week after the announcement. Maybe a little more or less, but not likely 3 weeks.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Druid is fine in wild without the naga change, but it sounds like it's very necessary for standard, even though the prospect of a Big or Combo Priest meta is terrifying.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Aren't there tournaments going on for the next few weeks?
Also I'm not sure how Druid nerfs could be considered too reactionary at this stage when Ultimate Infestation has proven itself to be one of the most broken cards in Hearthstone history, if not the most broken. Not to mention Spreading Plague which turned weak matchups into even or favorable ones.
This isn't first week, this is like week 3 of the expansion, closing in a full month. By the time the nerfs actually go live, it's going to be over a month easily.
Cards have been nerfed with less than 54% win rate.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
That article practically changed my life when I first read it a decade ago. It's really good.
Although this video of a little kid calling famous fighting game pro Justin Wong a cheater for spamming as JWong yells at him that this is how the world works conveys the same point in a more entertaining way.
I still do nonoptimal things in games, but I do so acknowledging that it's my choice and not expecting the world to accommodate it.
Karsticles
Member
I was with you until the non-optimal part. That's just gross.
On the topic of Playing to Win - I always had this natural instinct as a kid. I would throw fireballs all goddamn day if it meant I was going to win in Street Fighter. My friends would all get pissed off and say "hurr I can spam too", but I was just better at it, and they would eventually mess up an input. I would throw spam over and over, too, because none of them knew how to tech. I think I'm mentally incapable of not playing to win and still enjoying myself.
But I'm arguing to person that saying the nerf should happen in 1st week
Nah man, you a Johnny player.
Because my Bloodreaver deck was teched to win against Jade Druids and Priest (which it did) not Murloc Paladins.
Besides high rolling Murloc Paladins can win against anything especially any slow deck. This is no free win at all.
Online match up charts have Control Warlock losing against Murloc Pally 4-6 by the way.
I mean your removal lined up pretty well against them, just keep board empty and your abyssal enforcer will eventually get there alone
Nah can't trust data for deck that good player refuse to play because they playing better deck
I believe my deck not teched hard for aggros/midrange either, but defile and hellfire always enough
Karsticles
Member
Johnny/Spike. I want to pick my stuff and I NEED to win with it. If I can't win with my stuff I will quit or play something else with half-assed discontent. The whole reason I hit legendary last month was that I finally had several decks that could compete in the meta AND I liked playing them. A straight-up Johnny just wants to do his thing, but I am willing to play Pirate Warrior to close out the rank 5 if I need to. If the deck had any flexibility at all I would make my own variation, of course. Just like my Beast Hunter is 100% centered around Scavenging Hyena.
SonicXtreme
Member
messing with control naga arrow hunter... what u think to improve? 7-5 on the night, can copy giants with stitched for naga or copy naga if hand has giants
### CONTROL
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Wild
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# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 2x (2) King's Elekk
# 1x (2) Quick Shot
# 2x (2) Toxic Arrow
# 2x (2) Unstable Ghoul
# 1x (3) Deadly Shot
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Stitched Tracker
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (5) Antique Healbot
# 2x (5) Naga Sea Witch
# 1x (6) Deathstalker Rexxar
# 1x (6) The Black Knight
# 1x (7) Baron Geddon
# 2x (10) Sea Giant
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
# 2x (25) Molten Giant
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
### CONTROL
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Wild
#
# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 2x (2) King's Elekk
# 1x (2) Quick Shot
# 2x (2) Toxic Arrow
# 2x (2) Unstable Ghoul
# 1x (3) Deadly Shot
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Stitched Tracker
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (5) Antique Healbot
# 2x (5) Naga Sea Witch
# 1x (6) Deathstalker Rexxar
# 1x (6) The Black Knight
# 1x (7) Baron Geddon
# 2x (10) Sea Giant
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
# 2x (25) Molten Giant
#
AAEBAR8G0ALFCPgM/gzUEYbTAgyKAdMB4QeXCNsJ3AqQDvUPyxTeFpjNAtPNAgA=
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
To quote every action movie bad guy, you and I are more similar than you want to admit. Not playing Pirate Warrior all the time in certain metas mean you're not playing optimally. You could be legend more often or a higher ranked legend if you played optimally all the time.
Typically in fighting games I play difficult to master characters like Captain Cold in the recent Injustice 2, drop to the very bottom to like 700,000th on the leaderboard because I'm clearly not good enough to play a difficult character, eventually get tired of losing and play Wonder Woman and spam her shield throw until i get to 400,000th where players actually start to counter it, and then give up because I really don't want to spend that much time getting good at fighting games.
I'm pretty chill in hearthstone and like to play decks that sound fun, OP or not, with the one exception of Priests playing Mind Control on me. That shit sends me straight to pirate warrior for revenge on all of priest kind.
I disenchanted my molten giants FeelsBadMan
Also, i think Naga will be nerfed, as it seems to have polarized the meta a bit too much. A shame since it was such an interesting change.
I wouldn't be against a small nerf, but a complete revert would be a real shame imho as it'd make it and a lot of different cards that see play now unplayable. Something like: "at the end of your turn, change the base mana cost of cards in your hand to 5" would make it worse but still playable as it'd give your opponent a one turn buffer for all the giants you know are coming. Making it an hunter card could also work as giant hunter is deece but not as polarizing as giant druid (well, if Innervate get gutted, maybe giant druids won't be as polarizing either).
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Sludge Belcher seems pretty much strictly better for survivability than Healbot for this deck in this meta. It's not like your games will last long enough for DK Anduins to kill you over your taunts very often, and there's not a ton of direct damage in the meta other than that. You also might want a couple more giants. 6 is a little inconsistent for trying to get those huge turn 5 plays that the whole deck is about.
I never really understood when to run Unleash the Hounds and when not to. It could be right, I don't know.
I'm not having much luck with Ranked again this season so far (I know it's early days). It's weird, I play Casual and I play the same decks I'd come across in Ranked and I'm winning quite a bit. I switch over to Ranked and I'm getting super unlucky/getting stomped.
Reason I play Casual sometimes is because I have small children and I play Casual when I think I might get interrupted/have to exit the game.
Reason I play Casual sometimes is because I have small children and I play Casual when I think I might get interrupted/have to exit the game.
Such bullshit
I have played the deck myself, there arent really any real decisions to make.
Exodia Mage is such bullshit to play against. Guy draws both his Blizzards and both Frost Nova's in his first 10 cards. Then he gets Cabalist's Tome off his Shimmering Tempest, which gave him two 1-cost spells, which completed his quest and of course he had all the combo pieces.
So godamn annoying.
So godamn annoying.
We should just call out Exodia Mage for what it really is. Freeze mage.
I will be much happier when Ice Block is rotated out.
Don't know about the real stats, but from what I've been watching on stream, control mage with Jaina has been great against jade so far.
I lost to 1 today., he was at 1 health, 2 ice blocks used, and then geddon.
There was now way I could kill him, when his healing effect was bigger than my damage.
Interesting, gonna try iy today and see for myself.
Taunt Warrior is hardly a control deck to begin with, feels more like a Midrange deck where you want to play taunts on curve to get your hero power out quicker.
Brofist
Member
It's 10 mana. That's a lot of mana to spend to win most games on the spot
Well, it can actually win against control warrior.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
in card games where you had to develop your mana at a cost that'd be true but that's not the case in hearthstone.
Spreading plagues is so good. Two spreading plagues saved my live against 7/7, 8/8, 9/9, 10/10, 11/11, 12/12.
I had one 10/10 on board, and then I just played spreading plagues 2 turns in a row, also 1 idol, and then I won.
He BMed me earlier when spawned plagues with 2 mark of the lotus. So this feels so satisfying.
Five mana 6 1/5 taunts were insane.
I don't mind UI, but I hate playing against plague.
I had one 10/10 on board, and then I just played spreading plagues 2 turns in a row, also 1 idol, and then I won.
He BMed me earlier when spawned plagues with 2 mark of the lotus. So this feels so satisfying.
Five mana 6 1/5 taunts were insane.
I don't mind UI, but I hate playing against plague.
SonicXtreme
Member
Unleash is half sea giant insurance half "this class has no aoe and I need direct damage I can spread out a little" lol. Thing is in hunter the other giants cant be played turn 5 that's why I used these 3. The other 3 are all in the exact same boat of probably having a 2or3 discount but overall not being consistent (frost you use a cpl hero powers but not a ton, clockwork I hate relying on opponents, arcane my deck is too minion centered).
To be fair you kinda have 8 giants cos that's usually the stitched pull unless really need baha, plus can pull them with elekk fairly decently tho. It'd be fun to try and make a spell heavy yogg version or one that just shit all of the giants into it, but I just made my second poison Arrow so I wanted to make a deck around that
Belcher was the 31/32 card in the deck, I flip heal it with it depending on meta. Maybe 1/1 best. I really can't wait for a class lifesteal beast in hunter, needs it so bad
SodiumBenzoate
Member
Asia HCT qualifiers are this weekend and Americas are next weekend and they submitted decklist weeks ago.
The patch will be 2 weeks from today, book it.
The patch will be 2 weeks from today, book it.
SonicXtreme
Member
Gotta speed open the game on ur phone when the internet takes a shit on you! That's saved me a fair amount of times. Just need to remember to flip off phone wifi before trying !
This is the perk on mobile, you can switch your connection easily.
Sadly, not working most of the time.