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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
- Thread starter ZealousD
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Day 7, still waiting on the Crystal Rogue nerf, no money will be given to Blizzard until then. (On top of many other reasons.)
My matches in two days have been nothing but Pirate/taunt warrior...
My matches in two days have been nothing but Pirate/taunt warrior...
Oh don't worry it's that too, I can't get to the rank 10 floor just because of these three fucking decks.
Its very crazy now Hunter not favored against control warrior anymore
sub 50% winrate for archetype, you may gonna waiting forever
Day 7, still waiting on the Crystal Rogue nerf, no money will be given to Blizzard until then. (On top of many other reasons.)
sub 50% winrate for archetype, you may gonna waiting forever
Its very crazy now Hunter not favored against control warrior anymore
Taunt and Control Warrior don't play the same to be fair.
Taunt and Control Warrior don't play the same to be fair.
Seem every day newer list cutting more and more taunt for more removal and draw
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
as they should have from the start. Stonehill defender alone is 2 taunts per and you usually don't want to replace your hero power too soon anyways. If you expect to go to fatigue almost every game you could run less than 7 in the deck total having multiples that generate more.Seem every day newer list cutting and more taunt for more removal and draw
So, I was showing my friend Hearthstone. He's not really a gamer, but he plays mobile games a lot and I figured he'd like this.
He watched me play a few matches as Elemental Shaman while I explained the basics, then I said why not have a look at my cards and try building a deck.
He built a Warrior Deck with Pirates as "I love Pirates and I always play Warrior in WoW".
I almost didn't have the heart to say anything.
He watched me play a few matches as Elemental Shaman while I explained the basics, then I said why not have a look at my cards and try building a deck.
He built a Warrior Deck with Pirates as "I love Pirates and I always play Warrior in WoW".
I almost didn't have the heart to say anything.
The issue with the Warrior Quest is that there simply aren't enough low-mana effective taunt minions. The way I imagined an optimal Taunt Warrior deck would work is similar to an Enrage Warrior list where you run minions like Tauren Warrior, and spells like Inner Rage and Battle Rage in order to keep tempo and draw through your deck in order to spam out taunt minions to complete the quest. However there simply aren't enough effective 2-3 mana taunt minions in Standard for now so this doesn't work. I think it would work in Wild where you have minions like Unstable Ghoul and even Annoy-a-tron.
Seem every day newer list cutting more and more taunt for more removal and draw
But they're never adding Justicar
or Ironhide *shudders*
Day 7, still waiting on the Crystal Rogue nerf, no money will be given to Blizzard until then. (On top of many other reasons.)
you will be waiting forever...
Day 7, still waiting on the Crystal Rogue nerf, no money will be given to Blizzard until then. (On top of many other reasons.)
I'm in positive winrates vs quest rogue now. With Elemental Shaman and (lol) PW.
What issue tho the archetype seems pretty strong atmThe issue with the Warrior Quest is that there simply aren't enough low-mana effective taunt minions. The way I imagined an optimal Taunt Warrior deck would work is similar to an Enrage Warrior list where you run minions like Tauren Warrior, and spells like Inner Rage and Battle Rage in order to keep tempo and draw through your deck in order to spam out taunt minions to complete the quest. However there simply aren't enough effective 2-3 mana taunt minions in Standard for now so this doesn't work. I think it would work in Wild where you have minions like Unstable Ghoul and even Annoy-a-tron.
What issue tho the archetype seems pretty strong atm
Have to wait for VS reports but I think that archetype is having mediocre ladder winrates.
Karsticles
Member
I think Taunt Warrior eventually won't be about shoving a bunch of taunts in a deck along with the quest.
Karsticles
Member
Can you Sap or Vanish Sherazin's pod?
Can you Sap or Vanish Sherazin's pod?
No.
Like the warlock quest portal, it's immune to everything.
You'd need to silence the minion when it's alive.
Have to wait for VS reports but I think that archetype is having mediocre ladder winrates.
Its 2nd highest winrate behind PW according to VS live tracker, and the deck keep cutting more taunt
latest list from RayC not even use the 4 drop taunt anymore
veryslowhand
Banned
is freeze mage back?
is freeze mage back?
Yes.. people said its better than quest deck
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
No surprise there Exodia mage was always a joke deck.
Seriously can't even get to rank 10 with tempo mage. Fuck this game.
Playing nearly the same deck for over 4 hours now, went up to top of 11 then fell back to 15.
I seriously fucking hate this. Why do I keep playing?
Is there a class you are seeing that is a bad matchup at those ranks?
Day 7, still waiting on the Crystal Rogue nerf, no money will be given to Blizzard until then. (On top of many other reasons.)
Deck isn't even worth nerfing.
Is there a class you are seeing that is a bad matchup at those ranks?
I'm teching as I go, but it seems to flux between Hunter, Rogue, and Warrior.
homeworkfilms
Member
I feel you are intentionally banging your head against a wall. Mage is currently sub 40% win rate in the current "new" meta. Play pirate warrior or taunt warrior if you are looking to rank.
I feel you are intentionally banging your head against a wall. Mage is currently sub 40% win rate in the current "new" meta. Play pirate warrior or taunt warrior if you are looking to rank.
Yes, succumb to the scumbags I must.
Yes, succumb to the scumbags I must.
Or play Sherazin rogue. Very strong against cancer quest rogue and actually requires half a brain to pilot.
cartographer
Member
If I was having as bad a time over 4 hours od take a break for the day. Frustration makes me play worse and make little mistakes, which makes the game less fun. But that's just me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Have you actually played Quest Rogue?Or play Sherazin rogue. Very strong against cancer quest rogue and actually requires half a brain to pilot.
slightconfuse
Banned
Quest rogue has been manageable.
Taunt warrior is the most frustrating for me.
What is this about freeze mage?? Anyone have a list?
Taunt warrior is the most frustrating for me.
What is this about freeze mage?? Anyone have a list?
Quest rogue has been manageable.
Taunt warrior is the most frustrating for me.
What is this about freeze mage?? Anyone have a list?
https://twitter.com/LaughingHS/status/852147987849629697
Approved by Freeze Mage god itself
slightconfuse
Banned
Loos similar to the tempo mage list I'm running minus Alex and archmage.
Alex is on the next to craft list I think.
Primordial gliph is a MVP card.
If I was having as bad a time over 4 hours od take a break for the day. Frustration makes me play worse and make little mistakes, which makes the game less fun. But that's just me.
No, it's everybody.
It's why it's a good idea to just take a break if you find yourself losing more than like... two or three matches in a row. Just go do something else for a bit. Your mind isn't going to be right.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Some of their strongest minions die to stampeding kodo and if you keep up pressure they can't play sulfuras.There isn't much of an answer to taunt warrior.
It's very problematic.
The issue with the Warrior Quest is that there simply aren't enough low-mana effective taunt minions. The way I imagined an optimal Taunt Warrior deck would work is similar to an Enrage Warrior list where you run minions like Tauren Warrior, and spells like Inner Rage and Battle Rage in order to keep tempo and draw through your deck in order to spam out taunt minions to complete the quest. However there simply aren't enough effective 2-3 mana taunt minions in Standard for now so this doesn't work. I think it would work in Wild where you have minions like Unstable Ghoul and even Annoy-a-tron.
what? The deck is probably tier 1 and is the easiest deck in the history of the game to pilot.
what? The deck is probably tier 1 and is the easiest deck in the history of the game to pilot.
Hell no lol, their minion not even usually trade up like most strongest deck does in the past
btw the hard counter to taunt warrior is quest rogue with vanish
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Is horrible to play against taunt warrior, they have well stated taunt minions which you ca't bypass, and you can't build a board since brawl, ravaging ghoul and fiery war axe punishes you for doing that.
What are you using that is losing to warrior?
What are you using that is losing to warrior?
I'm trying midrange hunter
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I'm trying midrange hunter
I think MR hunter has been including deadly shots to counter taunt warrior.
Have you actually played Quest Rogue?
Yes. Its painfully easy to pilot.
Control/Taunt Warrior is good because despite not having taunts that can trade up well, they are still effective at stalling out the game and creating board tension.
A lot of aggro decks have issues effectively going through Tar Creepers, Bloodhoofs and Alleysmith. You couple that with Armorsmiths, WW effects and spot removals... means that it's hard to actually keep a decent board against Warrior that can punch face. If you over commit you play into Brawl. But if you board isn't big enough they have Drake, Sleep with Fishes, War Axe, Slam etc.
They have the tools to stall out the game which is the whole point of taunts. Taunts create board tension which makes it easier for the Warrior to clear the board. Easier to Execute targets and finish stragglers with WW.
As far as win rates go it's definitely one of the higher win rates decks in the game right nowx easily top 5. But it definitely has counters, I think in competitive HS it won't be a super strong force.
A lot of aggro decks have issues effectively going through Tar Creepers, Bloodhoofs and Alleysmith. You couple that with Armorsmiths, WW effects and spot removals... means that it's hard to actually keep a decent board against Warrior that can punch face. If you over commit you play into Brawl. But if you board isn't big enough they have Drake, Sleep with Fishes, War Axe, Slam etc.
They have the tools to stall out the game which is the whole point of taunts. Taunts create board tension which makes it easier for the Warrior to clear the board. Easier to Execute targets and finish stragglers with WW.
As far as win rates go it's definitely one of the higher win rates decks in the game right nowx easily top 5. But it definitely has counters, I think in competitive HS it won't be a super strong force.