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Horizon Zero Dawn Spoiler-free Impressions (for real this time)

KooopaKid

Banned
Yes I just completed my first cauldron. It was very introductory but still great and worth visiting. And the reward for completing it was so great that I can't believe it was an optional quest instead of main quest.

Are the cauldrons mainly combat oriented or not?
 
Name me another story driven zombie game pre-2013 that emphasized stealth, resource management and third person shooting. If you do think of another, then points for you. But if that's the case, then name me another game that does nothing original but was heralded for its execution. TLOU is an anomaly, plain and simple and not every Sony publish game will match Naughty Dog. I remember when UC2, Sony said they wanted all their games to match it and what we got was GoW: Ascension, Killzone 3, Infamous 2, LBP 2, Twisted Metal, StarHawk, etc. No matter your personal tastes, you can't deny that they didn't leave a noticeable mark on the industry. It wasn't until TLOU that Sony had another AAA game that matched UC2. In short, the existence of TLOU has no impact on the quality of Horizon. It needs to stand on its own and distinguish itself from every other open world action game.

None of those thing you mention are new gameplay wise.
In fact some people were down on TLOU because they thought it was another Zombie game .
As i said it can distinguish itself with it's setting , robos and it's gameplay systems.
Also witcher 3 does nothing new but heralded for its execution in story and side quest .
 
Wot the hell man. Been lurking for years and just when I become a member Bish up and leaves :(
This is how I feel the way a thread would start pulling out the bish banned gifs when somebody started acting silly man it was hilarious I'd never get to witness that first hand

None of those thing you mention are new gameplay wise.
In fact some people were down on TLOU because they thought it was another Zombie game .
As i said it can distinguish itself with it's setting , robos and it's gameplay systems.
Also witcher 3 does nothing new but heralded for its execution in story and side quest .
I disagree it managed to have shitty combat and still be a standard for the gen

I'll leave..
 

Not

Banned
Name me another story driven zombie game pre-2013 that emphasized stealth, resource management and third person shooting. If you do think of another, then points for you. But if that's the case, then name me another game that does nothing original but was heralded for its execution. TLOU is an anomaly, plain and simple and not every Sony publish game will match Naughty Dog. I remember when UC2, Sony said they wanted all their games to match it and what we got was GoW: Ascension, Killzone 3, Infamous 2, LBP 2, Twisted Metal, StarHawk, etc. No matter your personal tastes, you can't deny that they didn't leave a noticeable mark on the industry. It wasn't until TLOU that Sony had another AAA game that matched UC2. In short, the existence of TLOU has no impact on the quality of Horizon. It needs to stand on its own and distinguish itself from every other open world action game.

...Or what? It failed? People can't have fun playing it?

The noticeable mark on the industry, as others have pointed out, may be establishing the Pro as a desired console, ramping up overall enemy design and encounters, and ending hesitation about widening the identities and attributes of fictional characters in games as they may now prove to have little effect on sales or acclaim.
 
Now the argument is it doesn't do something totally never seen before, so why is Sony pushing it hard and hyping it..I have not seen so much effort to downplay a game in awhile
 
How about God of War 3, Uncharted 2, Devil May Cry 4, Assassins Creed 2, and so on and so forth. You're really cherry picking games that fit your narrative especially when several of the series you high lighted have other games that did leave a huge mark on the gaming world without being original. There are a metric fuckton of games that don't do anything new and just have incredibly well executed stories, gameplay, etc.
Lol, who's cherry picking, GoW was criticized for being another GoW (most people prefer 2 anyway), UC2 set a benchmark for Hollywood level set pieces and performance capture, DMC4 was just more DMC and was padded out to meet launch and was criticized, AC2 was just AC done right and I vividly remember people having mixed feeling about the fact that it was what the first game should have been similar to Watch Dogs 2.
 

silva1991

Member
T-Rex is down!!! Man what a game.

Is it different from Thunderjaw? I'm guessing it's this one from concept art

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xviper

Member
Name me another story driven zombie game pre-2013 that emphasized stealth, resource management and third person shooting. If you do think of another, then points for you. But if that's the case, then name me another game that does nothing original but was heralded for its execution. TLOU is an anomaly, plain and simple and not every Sony publish game will match Naughty Dog. I remember when UC2, Sony said they wanted all their games to match it and what we got was GoW: Ascension, Killzone 3, Infamous 2, LBP 2, Twisted Metal, StarHawk, etc. No matter your personal tastes, you can't deny that they didn't leave a noticeable mark on the industry. It wasn't until TLOU that Sony had another AAA game that matched UC2. In short, the existence of TLOU has no impact on the quality of Horizon. It needs to stand on its own and distinguish itself from every other open world action game.

nothing has matched MGS 4(2008) and Demon's souls(2009) yet from sony exclusives
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Lol, who's cherry picking, GoW was criticized for being another GoW (most people prefer 2 anyway), UC2 set a benchmark for Hollywood level set pieces and performance capture, DMC4 was just more DMC and was padded out to meet launch and was criticized, AC2 was just AC done right and I vividly remember people having mixed feeling about the fact that it was what the first game should have been similar to Watch Dogs 2.

You're moving goal posts. I thought it was about leaving a mark on the industry without being hugely original? Now its about being criticism free? What exactly is the point you're trying to prove anymore because it seems you don't know or you're just reaching at this point.

That and I'm not even sure what your final sentence even means. AC2 was criticized for its predecessor not being enough like Watch Dogs 2? What?
 

AtkO

Member
...I still don't get why the fuck anyone at Guerilla doubted if people would be interested in the concept.

Dude!!! Dude!!!! I still can't believe I'm as excited for this game as I was when I saw the leaks. I remember it like it was yesterday. And it has lived up to my expectations and even surpassed them (from the spoilery bits I've read/seen so far).

I fkn love you Guerilla!! Now use that knowledge you gathered for this game when it comes to story telling and actual story writing, and make Killzone great again!
 
nothing has matched MGS 4(2008) and Demon's souls(2009) yet from sony exclusives

Bloodborne is better then both of those, and TLOU > MGS4.

Lol, who's cherry picking, GoW was criticized for being another GoW (most people prefer 2 anyway), UC2 set a benchmark for Hollywood level set pieces and performance capture, DMC4 was just more DMC and was padded out to meet launch and was criticized, AC2 was just AC done right and I vividly remember people having mixed feeling about the fact that it was what the first game should have been similar to Watch Dogs 2.

Goal posts moving, argument all over the place lol.
 
None of those thing you mention are new gameplay wise.
In fact some people were down on TLOU because they thought it was another Zombie game .
As i said it can distinguish itself with it's setting , robos and it's gameplay systems.
Also witcher 3 does nothing new but heralded for its execution in story and side quest .
Sure there not new but TLOU was the first story driven game to do all of them, unless you can think of another. Here's another example : We've already fully open ended games (Skyrim, GTA), we've already had physics based gameplay (HL2), we've already had exploration based survival game. (Minecraft), we've already had games where any enemy could easily defeat you (Souls), we've already had emergent gameplay (Deus Ex, Far Cry 2), we've already had games with great animal AI (RDR, SOTC, TLG), we've already had games that allow you to go to the final boss from the beginning (NG plus in Chrono Trigger) BUT we've never had a game that does all those things and hopefully more (BOTW, and yes I apologize for bringing it up again in this thread)
 

Salex_

Member
It needs to stand on its own and distinguish itself from every other open world action game.

From what I've gathered, it looks like it's going to have the best combat in an open world WRPG. It sounds really dynamic and fun to play. As someone who doesn't play WRPGs, shitty combat is what I hear about the most from the genre. If the combat continues to receive the same responses when more people play the game, I think the combat and the enemies/setting are a big enough distinction.

Btw, Sony doesn't need this to be a revolution game to market their new big AAA IP lol. People who played it like it and they're confident in the game judging by the early embargo. That's all the reasons they need to actively market their biggest Q1 game.
 

The Lamp

Member
Man that is one awesome video, to say the machines are massive, they move surprisingly fast, I can see that catching me off guard a few times.

That was my first time seeing that kind of machine. So it was totally real when I stood there not moving because I was like...wait...what the fuck LOL
I wish I could gif that last part.

All these kinds of enemies roam freely.
 

riotous

Banned
Game looks awesome; I think I'll order a PS4 Pro because of this.

Not sure WTF is going on with the weird arguing going on in this thread.. lol.
 
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