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[Melchettsmoustache]

How do people in the UK know their order status?

When I log through my order email I simply come to the invoice they charged me with a May shipping message. Nothing saying order processing etc.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

So what's the consensus on booting into VR sans monitor? My room situation is currently such that I'll need to move my tower from my office to another room for any roomscale games. I'd rather not have to move my monitor as well, so is it pheasible to boot into the desktop with just the Vive on?

It's impossible to setup the Vive without a monitor/display. I had my Vive delivered on Monday, but my USPS guy decided to bail on his deliveries that day, which included a much-needed displayport cable.

Since my video card only has one HDMI slot, I tried to set up the Vive by switching cables back and forth, but it would not work at all.

 

[Durante]

I have the Vive in a separate room, and it's doable without a monitor once you have completed the setup. From that point on, unless something goes horribly wrong, you can do everything from within the HMD.

 

[Qassim]

Holoball is amazing! As I'm in a small room with very low, slanted ceilings (a loft) I need to be really careful, but even thought I'm limiting my movement it's still an incredibly fun game.

I really love the haptics when you swish the paddles around too. Haptics on the Vive controllers, when done well, really add something significant to the game. It's the primary thing that was missing in Vanishing Realms for me.

 

[mrklaw]

I have the Vive in a separate room, and it's doable without a monitor once you have completed the setup. From that point on, unless something goes horribly wrong, you can do everything from within the HMD.

how do you launch steam vr without a monitor? I thought you don't see anything in the headset until you launch steam VR.


Although I have found that minecrift doesn't like steam VR. Works fine without it, but when it is on I get the right hand controller constantly mining/attacking/etc

 

[Durante]

how do you launch steam vr without a monitor? I thought you don't see anything in the headset until you launch steam VR.


Although I have found that minecrift doesn't like steam VR. Works fine without it, but when it is on I get the right hand controller constantly mining/attacking/etc

I'm not saying that you don't need a monitor, I'm saying that you don't necessarily need a monitor in your VR space once you've completed the setup. Basically, I start SteamVR and then I go to the VR room and put on the headset. From that point on I can launch games (and even kill dead instances of Audioshield in the Desktop view) as required.

 

[mrklaw]

I'm not saying that you don't need a monitor, I'm saying that you don't necessarily need a monitor in your VR space once you've completed the setup. Basically, I start SteamVR and then I go to the VR room and put on the headset.

ok - by setup I thought you meant initial setup.


If you're running cabling down from another room you can run an extra HDMI for a TV if you have one there. Or try remote desktop software and dial into your computer from a laptop or ipad just to kick stuff off.

 

[Durante]

The one thing I didn't anticipate when I set up my VR space is how often I would show stuff off to a group. Even people who have never been the least bit interested in games want to see it. So now I'm actually missing a larger screen and speakers in the VR space for that use case.

 

[Raticus79]

Lots of good tips here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4gubq7/modding_the_vive_is_important/

That lens depth adjustment would be easy to miss for people who didn't read the manual.

The one thing I didn't anticipate when I set up my VR space is how often I would show stuff off to a group. Even people who have never been the least bit interested in games want to see it. So now I'm actually missing a larger screen and speakers in the VR space for that use case.

It's a good incentive for me to finally finish up my basement! 14x22' down there.

 

[Compsiox]

Lots of good tips here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4gubq7/modding_the_vive_is_important/

That lens depth adjustment would be easy to miss for people who didn't read the manual.

Someone from Valve said not to do the foam adjustment (moving the flaps to move your face in closer)

It introduces problems like not feeling presence, artifacts, and even becoming nauseous.

 

[Raticus79]

Someone from Valve said not to do the foam adjustment (moving the flaps to move your face in closer)

It introduces problems like not feeling presence, artifacts, and even becoming nauseous.

Could still be worth considering for fit - if you're getting too close at that point, then just move them further in to maintain a proper relief distance.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Someone from Valve said not to do the foam adjustment (moving the flaps to move your face in closer)

It introduces problems like not feeling presence, artifacts, and even becoming nauseous.

How is any of that possible from just adjusting the foam?

 

[Onemic]

Question regarding VR performance. are the steep requirements solely based ont he increased resolution that a game has to render for VR? That is, if I can run a game at 90FPS on my monitor rendered at the same resolution as both VR lenses combined, would I be able to maintain that same resolution running the game in VR?

Asking because it's looking very likely that I'll get my Vive way before Pascal releases and I currently have an R9 270.

 

[Raticus79]

How is any of that possible from just adjusting the foam?

People are removing/moving it to get much closer to the lenses, which has some unwanted side effects due to being outside the normal range for the optics.

 

[Compsiox]

How is any of that possible from just adjusting the foam?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4ev8sh/how_to_get_vive_fov_bigger/d245dmw

 

[Tain]

Question regarding VR performance. are the steep requirements solely based ont he increased resolution that a game has to render for VR? That is, if I can run a game at 90FPS on my monitor rendered at the same resolution as both VR lenses combined, would I be able to maintain that same resolution running the game in VR?

Asking because it's looking very likely that I'll get my Vive way before Pascal releases and I currently have an R9 270.

The stereoscopy is the big killer, and causes things to run notably worse in my experience. Split screen is tougher than single screen, even if the total resolution is the same.

On top of that, at least in Rift land, supersampling is on by default (or was during DK2 days). Maybe it's the same in SteamVR?

 

[Durante]

Question regarding VR performance. are the steep requirements solely based ont he increased resolution that a game has to render for VR? That is, if I can run a game at 90FPS on my monitor rendered at the same resolution as both VR lenses combined, would I be able to maintain that same resolution running the game in VR?

Asking because it's looking very likely that I'll get my Vive way before Pascal releases and I currently have an R9 270.

It's not necessarily the same.

Depending on the specifics of the individual game and how it handles VR rendering, it could be either closer to 180 FPS at eye resolution or 90 FPS at 2x eye resolution.

And of course, in both cases you have to consider that for good IQ you want eye resolution > screen resolution per eye.

 

[Arulan]

On top of that, at least in Rift land, supersampling is on by default (or was during DK2 days). Maybe it's the same in SteamVR?

It should be. It's 1512 x 1680 per eye.

 

[Akronis]

Anyone know of a good DIY solution for suspending the cables so they're not dragging on the floor or getting tangled?

 

[Onemic]

It's not necessarily the same.

Depending on the specifics of the individual game and how it handles VR rendering, it could be either closer to 180 FPS at eye resolution or 90 FPS at 2x eye resolution.

And of course, in both cases you have to consider that for good IQ you want eye resolution > screen resolution per eye.

What would be the chances of an R9 270 being able to run older Vorpx enabled titles(when Vive support coems of course) like HL2 or Doom 3?

 

[mrklaw]

Anyone know of a good DIY solution for suspending the cables so they're not dragging on the floor or getting tangled?

Try this : http://youtu.be/8otQV_h_eMU

Setup info http://youtu.be/wTRzImvAuik

 

[spekkeh]

Wow I took the Vive home with me from work, and it also trashed the video card drivers of my home pc (and so far I haven't been able to recover them). That's the second pc that happened to. What's up with Steam VR.

 

[Durante]

Wow I took the Vive home with me from work, and it also trashed the video card drivers of my home pc (and so far I haven't been able to recover them). That's the second pc that happened to. What's up with Steam VR.

SteamVR literally cannot "trash" your video card drivers. That's not a thing which is possible.

I don't know what is going on with your systems, but I know that that isn't it.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

Try this : http://youtu.be/8otQV_h_eMU

Setup info http://youtu.be/wTRzImvAuik

Hmmmm, I have bungee cords. *rubs chin*

 

[spekkeh]

Well, both times it happened during installation. Admittedly this time I was swapping the hdmi cable back and forth between the monitor and the Vive, because shitty AMD thinks one hdmi out is enough. That probably won't have helped.

 

[derFeef]

Try this : http://youtu.be/8otQV_h_eMU

Setup info http://youtu.be/wTRzImvAuik

Seems smart.
*adds to wishlist*

I have a clear 2m x 2m space now, which is alright I guess. I have a larger room but I would need to carry my PC there and also the ceiling is a bit low, which can be a problem I guess?

 

[ChainsawFilms]

How do people in the UK know their order status?

When I log through my order email I simply come to the invoice they charged me with a May shipping message. Nothing saying order processing etc.

Try this:

https://www.htcvive.com/myorder

 

[Tain]

Sayonara Umihara Kawase is on sale at the moment, in case you're pumped for the confirmed VR support (which is still insane to me).

 

[Samaritan]

I have the Vive in a separate room, and it's doable without a monitor once you have completed the setup. From that point on, unless something goes horribly wrong, you can do everything from within the HMD.

This is what I needed to know, thanks Durante!

I fully intend to have my monitor present when setting it up in case I need to troubleshoot anything, but once everything is setup, not having to move my monitor around would be a nice option.

 

[Durante]

Well, both times it happened during installation. Admittedly this time I was swapping the hdmi cable back and forth between the monitor and the Vive, because shitty AMD thinks one hdmi out is enough. That probably won't have helped.

My point is that SteamVR isn't even allowed to touch the drivers, so if the drivers are moved into a non-working state by the SteamVR installation, then the drivers were broken in the first place.

Sayonara Umihara Kawase is on sale at the moment, in case you're pumped for the confirmed VR support (which is still insane to me).

Wait what

 

[Karak]

Anybody tried this yet? http://www.cineveovrcinema.com/cineveo_vr_cinema_steamvr_vive.html

Oh very interesting. I might check it out.

 

[qa_engineer]

Finally received my Vive. Set up took less than 10 minutes and my extremely small NYC apt was just enough for room scale.

Edit: Vortex is one of the best VR experiences I've had.

 

[Will the Thrill]

Well my order is still Pending Fulfillment (Been about 3 days now) but I went and downloaded all the free stuff I want to try (Like the Foo Show, Budget Cuts demo and The Lab ect) then bought Hover Junkers and Audio shield.

I haven't been this excited for something gaming related in a LONG time.

Btw, is there a fix for why Steam likes to automatically pause my downloads and schedule them to continue re downloading later (only to download for like 1 min then stop again)

Finally received my Vive. Set up took less than 10 minutes and my extremely small NYC apt was just enough for room scale.

Edit: Vortex is one of the best VR experiences I've had.

I NEED IT
When did you order?

 

[Tain]

Wait what

http://steamcommunity.com/app/378750/discussions/0/368542844487598459/#c364039531218038218

Also made a thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1211043

 

[qa_engineer]

Well my order is still Pending Fulfillment (Been about 3 days now) but I went and downloaded all the free stuff I want to try (Like the Foo Show, Budget Cuts demo and The Lab ect) then bought Hover Junkers and Audio shield.

I haven't been this excited for something gaming related in a LONG time.

Btw, is there a fix for why Steam likes to automatically pause my downloads and schedule them to continue re downloading later (only to download for like 1 min then stop again)



I NEED IT
When did you order?

I bought it through a third party a week ago. The person who sold it to me didn't have enough room and was bummed to let it go so I felt bad taking it off him... until an hour ago when Vortex mind fucked me.

 

[Compsiox]

I ABSOLUTELY HATE when people use VR being Niche to justify the cost of a game.

$20 dollars for 1.5 hours of gameplay is insane. No matter what.

This game:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/401820/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

I bought it through a third party a week ago. The person who sold it to me didn't have enough room and was bummed to let it go so I felt bad taking it off him... until an hour ago when Vortex mind fucked me.

Xortex is fantastic. I literally forgot that I was in my house.

Did you also get a weird feeling getting used to letting all of the bullets pass through you?

 

[Will the Thrill]

I bought it through a third party a week ago. The person who sold it to me didn't have enough room and was bummed to let it go so I felt bad taking it off him... until an hour ago when Vortex mind fucked me.

Wait, what is Vortex? Google and Steam don't really show anything unless I'm just overlooking it.

 

[Monger]

Wait, what is Vortex? Google and Steam don't really show anything unless I'm just overlooking it.

It's a game in The Lab. It's the arcade machine.

Edit: Read it as xortex

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Wait, what is Vortex? Google and Steam don't really show anything unless I'm just overlooking it.

He spelt it wrong. It's Xortex and it's one of The Lab demo's. It's like a bullet hell shmup but on an entirely different level.

 

[loganclaws]

Xortex is fantastic. I literally forgot that I was in my house.

Did you also get a weird feeling getting used to letting all of the bullets pass through you?

WTF is Vortex? Is it on steam? Can't find it.

 

[Exuro]

I ABSOLUTELY HATE when people use VR being Niche to justify the cost of a game.

$20 dollars for 1.5 hours of gameplay is insane. No matter what.

This game:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/401820/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1

A lot of VR games are priced higher than regular games. Isn't The Gallery only 2ish hours?

 

[Will the Thrill]

He spelt it wrong. It's Xortex and it's one of The Lab demo's. It's like a bullet hell shmup but on an entirely different level.

It's a game in The Lab. It's the arcade machine.

Edit: nevermind. Read it as xortex

OHH ok thanks haha, think I've seen a little bit of it.

 

[Compsiox]

A lot of VR games are priced higher than regular games. Isn't The Gallery only 2ish hours?

Most have replayability (not narrative based).

 

[dumbo]

Well, both times it happened during installation. Admittedly this time I was swapping the hdmi cable back and forth between the monitor and the Vive, because shitty AMD thinks one hdmi out is enough. That probably won't have helped.

I don't think steamVR damages anything, but I think AMD has some very wonky logic to determine which port your 'main screen' is connected to. (I upgraded my drivers whilst steamVR was active - which somehow made the drivers believe that my main monitor was the vive, leading to rather a mess).

 

[jotun?]

Nm already answered

 

[GuitarAtomik]

CyberPong VR is out now. Looks like it's doing enough different from Holoball to possibly justify both.

 

[Compsiox]

Link to this Vortex game? It's too common of a name for things, can't find what you guys are talking about

He was talking about the Lab minigame Xortex

 

[Exuro]

CyberPong VR is out now. Looks like it's doing enough different from Holoball to possibly justify both.

It looks more like 3d arkanoid than pong. The single player at least.

 

[cakefoo]

Someone from Valve said not to do the foam adjustment (moving the flaps to move your face in closer)

It introduces problems like not feeling presence, artifacts, and even becoming nauseous.

I think you're confused about which face pad mod he was addressing. I'm pretty sure it was the one that increases the fov by making the foam thinner. The one that has you angle the flaps down doesn't seem to increase fov, it's just more comfortable for some people. One of the unspoken benefits for me personally is that it opens up the airflow just enough that my eyes don't water.