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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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AllenSpawn
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I am in the same boat as you. Except an i7 3770.
Everything on low.
It's definitely a bit twitchy.
Those new gtx 10 series cards can't come fast enough.
Been trying to play PCars but my stupid fucking G27 racing wheel makes the controls have a spaz attack in the menus. Anyone have a fix for this?
Edit: Re: the quality
It was okay (still jittery at points but playable) during qualifying but was barf city in a Barcelona map that had like 30 cars all around me in the start.
All settings low with a 8GB 390X, 16GB DDR2 and an AMD 8350 4.3Ghz
Thanks, I'll try the combining Axis fix. Already tried calibrating and that did nothing. Though I got to play a couple of races, once I got to that 30 car race I don't think I'll be able to play it until there's a fix or something that lets me lower the quality settings more.
Edit: Re: the quality
It was okay (still jittery at points but playable) during qualifying but was barf city in a Barcelona map that had like 30 cars all around me in the start.
All settings low with a 8GB 390X, 16GB DDR2 and an AMD 8350 4.3Ghz
Thanks, I'll try the combining Axis fix. Already tried calibrating and that did nothing. Though I got to play a couple of races, once I got to that 30 car race I don't think I'll be able to play it until there's a fix or something that lets me lower the quality settings more.
Scapegoat
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Redditor reports a fix: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comme...rs_patch_110_htc_vive_support_is_here/d338wix
Oddly enough I sort of had this problem with my G27, though I never had it spazz out that much, just some scrolling through selections and a non-working throttle in game. What fixed it for me was simply running the "calibrate pedals" in the options > controls screen.
AllenSpawn
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Pleased for you. Been following the plight of the vampire vive on this thread.... And that was a great way to end the tale! Well done valve.
I cannot get Vive to work under Win7. When SteamVR starts, the screen goes black for a few seconds, then I get an error:
Here's my system report from SteamVR:
http://pastebin.com/SiX0rHh8
If I wanted Valve to help, who should I contact?
Here's my system report from SteamVR:
http://pastebin.com/SiX0rHh8
If I wanted Valve to help, who should I contact?
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I cannot get Vive to work under Win7. When SteamVR starts, the screen goes black for a few seconds, then I get an error:
Here's my system report from SteamVR:
http://pastebin.com/SiX0rHh8
Problem here is you are using Windows 7 when 10 exists as a free update.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure 10 is recommended too. There's probably a good reason for that.
Oh sorry. I could have sworn 10 was recommended. Maybe that was for Rift? Anyways, have you tried doing a fresh install of the drivers or download a beta driver?
Iced_Eagle
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Well it's certainly recommended as some software like Big Screen and Virtual Desktop just flat out don't work on Windows 7 because they use new features MS added in later versions of Windows. Plus, Win10 has improvements that Oculus asked for in the kernel which essentially eliminated some critical areas where Windows used buffers which obviously introduced unnecessary latency from the OS. So while it may work on Win7, it's best to have Win10.
But to help out, do a clean install (it's a checkbox during install for the drivers which removes everything). If that doesn't work try using different versions of the driver going back to the March 28 VR drivers and find one which works. If you're doing multi-mon, try unplugging all but one monitor as well to try to narrow things down.
Owlowiscious
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brookhaven experiment: "you're out of bullets. you can punch them!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4j24kh/i_set_up_the_vive_at_my_81_year_old_grandpas/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4j24kh/i_set_up_the_vive_at_my_81_year_old_grandpas/
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Yeah, I have a 980ti and the game has judder on any decent setting I try, is everything low the only way to play the game? The two times I played I got sick.
electroflame
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I cannot get Vive to work under Win7. When SteamVR starts, the screen goes black for a few seconds, then I get an error:
Here's my system report from SteamVR:
http://pastebin.com/SiX0rHh8
If I wanted Valve to help, who should I contact?
You might want to try an earlier driver. I used 362.00 on both of my machines (one my main PC as a VR test, and the other my VR machine that got set up later), and both of them are running Windows 7. I haven't had a driver issue on 362.00, but I've read of others having issues on later versions. Downgrading might be worth a shot.
Hi all,
Ready to reveal my paper on VR locomotion.
The system is called: Controller Assisted On the Spot movement (or CAOTS for short).
You can download it here.
https://mega.nz/#!08BBUDLA!OZtIYs45ww43Zg7j0L3lLMJVQup4QwUFNb18LwNhPLk
The paper includes a reasonably thorough primer on the state of VR locomotion, why it's important, and how this solution solves for a lot of the problems of VR within the practical constraints of current day VR tech.
There's actually a demo of it that you can try made by Ryan Sullivan/Deprecated Coder called RIPMotion.
http://smirkingcat.software/ripmotion/
Worth noting that it's not a direct implementation of CAOTS as described in the paper - but the key principles are there - directionality indicated by controller heading, and intentionality signaled by the user. It can be held in hand (I'd suggest is a better solution than putting it in your belt for a number of reasons, among which is, not everyone is wearing the appropriate attire), uses head bounce for velocity measurement, not arm swing. I'd also suggest turning on beginner to advanced chaperone boundaries if you haven't already, because you will drift as you run in place, and having the bounds pop up as you drift helps you recenter very easily.
Also, the implementation is rough around its edges - especially in terms of the stride length. The ideal is to get it so that it feels like your body motion is directly responsible for the motion - the paper suggests a detailed movement scaling system that provides this feedback.
Nonetheless, it's a great demo of the principles discussed in the paper and you should give it a shot if you haven't already (and if you have, try it again with the minor modifications that I suggest - holding it in hand, while taking note of things like scale, vection, the ability to look around, moving around in room space and larger VE space, etc).
I've talked with deprecatedcoder and apparently he's made some modifications and will be releasing a demo soon - so looking forward to seeing that.
Ready to reveal my paper on VR locomotion.
The system is called: Controller Assisted On the Spot movement (or CAOTS for short).
You can download it here.
https://mega.nz/#!08BBUDLA!OZtIYs45ww43Zg7j0L3lLMJVQup4QwUFNb18LwNhPLk
The paper includes a reasonably thorough primer on the state of VR locomotion, why it's important, and how this solution solves for a lot of the problems of VR within the practical constraints of current day VR tech.
There's actually a demo of it that you can try made by Ryan Sullivan/Deprecated Coder called RIPMotion.
http://smirkingcat.software/ripmotion/
Worth noting that it's not a direct implementation of CAOTS as described in the paper - but the key principles are there - directionality indicated by controller heading, and intentionality signaled by the user. It can be held in hand (I'd suggest is a better solution than putting it in your belt for a number of reasons, among which is, not everyone is wearing the appropriate attire), uses head bounce for velocity measurement, not arm swing. I'd also suggest turning on beginner to advanced chaperone boundaries if you haven't already, because you will drift as you run in place, and having the bounds pop up as you drift helps you recenter very easily.
Also, the implementation is rough around its edges - especially in terms of the stride length. The ideal is to get it so that it feels like your body motion is directly responsible for the motion - the paper suggests a detailed movement scaling system that provides this feedback.
Nonetheless, it's a great demo of the principles discussed in the paper and you should give it a shot if you haven't already (and if you have, try it again with the minor modifications that I suggest - holding it in hand, while taking note of things like scale, vection, the ability to look around, moving around in room space and larger VE space, etc).
I've talked with deprecatedcoder and apparently he's made some modifications and will be releasing a demo soon - so looking forward to seeing that.
Just chiming in to say that the frame rate on PCars improved after I deleted all the xml files in the documents\pcars folder. Still struggled with the G27 racing wheel but for some reason I got it to work. I think it's because I just launched it from the monitor and didn't bother with using the vive controllers and never messing with the steamVR menu system. Also don't forget to bind a reset position before you get into a game!
970 with an i5 here. Can run it 1080p with high textures and the very basic of AA. Everything else on low or off, or I get judder. (race with 40+ cars in clear weather)
With these games that have far draw distances (PC, ED) we are going to see pixel crawl. IN ED when I ran 4k super sampling, it cleaned up a lot of it, but still a very soft distant image. Limitation of the low res these headsets have.
I just wish I could squeeze in low shadows, they do a lot to cement the environment, but alas, my 970 cant even handle that.
It's sucks for me cause I got the GOTY version and immediately realized I get horrible motion sickness from this game. I was nauseous for about 2 hours. On the upside, my rig can run the 2D game on the gsync monitor with basically everything highest and it looks and plays great. So no PCARS VR for my stomach.
Also, the softness and screen door effect really stick out like a sore thumb in this game. In all of the room scale stuff I don't even notice sde, but in a racing game where distance is crucial, I feel like I'm far worse at the game in VR. I can't judge turns fast enough cause I have trouble seeing what's coming up. It's a real bummer because I was looking forward to playing the truck simulator games on my Vive, but after seeing PCARS I might not even try.
Hellsing321
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So how do you guys keep the cord from kinking up? It feels like after a few mins of playing Holopoint I have to pause the game to untangle the cord.
Holopoint specifically I keep in mind which way I'm turning and basically rotate on a hinge instead of doing full rotations all the time. Back and forth, rather than forth and forth.
As for my Win7 issue - I did a clean driver reinstall, using Display Driver Uninstaller, which did not help, but I will try older driver.
Both Rift and Vive officially support win7, but I am aware that VR works better on win10, since 7 is quite old. I do have win10 on the second partition and no problems there, but I want to find a solution for win7 too.
Both Rift and Vive officially support win7, but I am aware that VR works better on win10, since 7 is quite old. I do have win10 on the second partition and no problems there, but I want to find a solution for win7 too.
artsi
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Are you playing with a high car count? What's your CPU?
4790K + 980Ti here and I can play with medium/high settings no problem, but I don't usually play with over 20 opponents so maybe it's that.
that video on the site is really amazing. looks great!
That was great advice - 362.00 works, every later driver crashes. Thanks!
runningjoke
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Any kind of coat hanger? Just use the wrist strap to hang it from
that's thinking outside of the box
I was trying to find something like angled dowelling to hang via the big hoop. Wrist straps would be too long though - I'd like to put them in a cupboard like this guy
1080p? Isn't the resolution setting just for the mirrored image on the monitor?
I dropped the resolution to 640 x 480.
The hooks in that picture look like something you would normally hang keys from. I picked up some coat hooks thinking I would use them to hold the 50' HDMI cable I run to the 'VR Room', but that didn't work. They'll work excellently for holding the controllers though. Gonna build a shelf and get an armature to put the headset on, and then hang the controllers on either side with the hooks.that's thinking outside of the box
http://www.lowes.com/pd_590596-81227-163955_1z140au__?productId=50156926&pl=1&Ntt=hooks
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
I'm really not a big fan of the word but "immersion" really. Having your vision filled with the demons from Hell of Doom is a lot more fun for me than having them on my 27" monitor.
With FOV set to 130 and image zoom to around .6-.7 or so the full-screen version is nice. The HUD could be a little better though. In theater mode with the image zoomed in a bit fixes that and cutscenes are more comfortable. I haven't decided which I prefer.
metareferential
Member
pCars finally!!
My playseat / g27 combo was patiently waiting in a corner of the room.
My playseat / g27 combo was patiently waiting in a corner of the room.
Just tried, I think your right, no change in HMD. Although dropping to 640x480 did not help with performance at all either, Any change above what I had at 1080p causes judder at 480p also.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
I cannot get Vive to work under Win7. When SteamVR starts, the screen goes black for a few seconds, then I get an error:
Here's my system report from SteamVR:
http://pastebin.com/SiX0rHh8
If I wanted Valve to help, who should I contact?
sure this is related to your gpu overheating..is it overclocked?
i got similiar error when i was trying to use MSI overdrive
The card is indeed overclocked, however the crash happens ONLY when I try to launch SteamVR, at the precise moment when Vive screens are supposed to turn on.
Also, it does not happen on 362.00 drivers (on the same overclocked settings), but happens on all newer drivers (except the ones released today, because I did not test them yet). And it does not happen on Win10 (also on bumped clocks). So it's definitely some problem with drivers/windows 7.
Also, it does not happen on 362.00 drivers (on the same overclocked settings), but happens on all newer drivers (except the ones released today, because I did not test them yet). And it does not happen on Win10 (also on bumped clocks). So it's definitely some problem with drivers/windows 7.
Does it happen if you put the card back at stock clocks? Maxwell can be weird with OCing
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I really like this solution but it has one major problem. You have to sacrifice a controller to get "chest direction". This just highlights a major oversight by valve; needing more sensors for different body parts out of the box.
Ideally CV2 will come with a "VR Belt" that has both front and rear sensors for detecting chest/pelvis direction. As for right now, I am trying to do some math to figure out if I can get a rough estimate of chest direction by averaging vectors from the two controllers (can't use head because it should be free to move as it wishes.
Do you know if the developer is using Unreal or if he plans on releasing his research? I am curious how he is setting the speed. I assume it is just any up or down movement of the headset (normalized) multiplied by a movement value.
Oh god project cars.
So first thing I did trying out the vive patch was select my real life car.
World was scaled way too small. Immediately apparent. So I open up the options and they let you change the world scale.
Right around 1.10 the car clicked.
"Oh shit, this is my car."
As far as I can tell 1.10 is full scale in VR for the vive.
So first thing I did trying out the vive patch was select my real life car.
World was scaled way too small. Immediately apparent. So I open up the options and they let you change the world scale.
Right around 1.10 the car clicked.
"Oh shit, this is my car."
As far as I can tell 1.10 is full scale in VR for the vive.
where is that option? In the VR settings? I'll have to check that out. Does it make the drivers body look less like a toddler?
| Praxis |
Banned
Bought Audioshield today, it's a lot of fun. I found the song King of the Streets by Lazerhawk works really well in it.
Well guys, today's the day! By 8 o'clock tonight I'll finally be in virtual reality! I've got my games downloaded, my room space all cleared and setup, just waiting on that 20lb box now!
Is there anything I should know going into this that isn't readily apparent? Stuff like the best way to wear the Vive, how tight to wear it, anything like that?
Is there anything I should know going into this that isn't readily apparent? Stuff like the best way to wear the Vive, how tight to wear it, anything like that?
Yup, world scale is off on the vive with default settings. Using my own car as reference, 1.10 seems about right, might still be a bit small, but the main reference that was off at that size is the gear shift knob is wrong (still too small). Scale feels good right about there, with other things that feel off probably being up to small modeling errors (like the gear shift knob)
Can't remember what menu it's in right now, but you can access it while in a race.
I'll have to mess with photo mode but VR photo mode is awesome to really inspect the cars.
Move your seat to a corner of the play space and go into photo mode at a flat part of the track. Reset the VR view so your looking into your play space from a corner or side.
I'm just going to look at cars all weekend... and I guess race...
Huuuuuu nice paper, i'll properly read it in the next days
Cheers! Looking forward to thoughts/feedback.
Hi, thanks for the response!
To be sure, CAOTS has you using the direction controller in your hand - RIPMotion demos it with the controller in the belt. CAOTS is the system in the paper I wrote, RIPMotion is the implementation that occurred independently of my paper.
With that been said - your hand is occupied while you're moving around in CAOTS, that's true. The flipside is, it's completely free when you drop into room scale, and can easily switch back and forth between room scale and caots. Also, it's not completely occupied - you just have to hold your hand roughly in the direction you want to move. Also, you have freedom to move your arm around if the touch disc/analog stick (which adds onto the controller direction) implementation is used.
I envision that in a scenario where the player is running around with a sword and shield as an example, that they'll still be able to freely run around with both things while using CAOTS... and generally, you'll drop out of CAOTS to swing your weapons around as it tends to require real foot work (although you can still swing one arm around while running around with CAOTS).
The number of scenarios where you'll be actually moving around while still using both hands dextrously (i.e. for more than just holding onto things) is very few as far as I can tell. I mean, even in real life that's a rarity. Probably the only one is firing a two handed weapon... and in reality, running and gunning is inaccurate... and it'll be inaccurate with CAOTS too!
I've been trying to find "combined axis mode" in the profiler for the last 20 minutes.., I don't get it, where is it..?
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