DouglasteR
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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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GuitarAtomik
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Just to temper expectations, Portal Stories: VR is only about 30 minutes and does not include any actual portal puzzles.
AllenSpawn
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Yes! *fist pump*
WTF!
Nooooooo!
Damn was hoping for at least about 5 puzzle rooms....
Project cars is pretty great - spent about an hour trying it out earlier. Seems smooth but ther is a bit of a doubles image on objects going past so maybe that's the reprojection? Running on a 970.
Objects very quickly turn to mush in the mid distance, but you can still fairly easily see upcoming corners. Driving a formula rookie around monza was fantastic. The cars seem very twitchy and easy to lose control with a 360 pad though so I might need to consider a wheel. Are there any good settings to make the cars less twitchy? Tried turning stability control on but it didn't make much difference.
Objects very quickly turn to mush in the mid distance, but you can still fairly easily see upcoming corners. Driving a formula rookie around monza was fantastic. The cars seem very twitchy and easy to lose control with a 360 pad though so I might need to consider a wheel. Are there any good settings to make the cars less twitchy? Tried turning stability control on but it didn't make much difference.
DouglasteR
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WTF !?
Dreams-Visions
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wait what
Surprised me too. I thought it was meant to be a port of Mel, but there is almost nothing of that game in this version. You get a few (10-ish) puzzles that are like portal puzzles but you basically just have to put a companion cube on a button, and the mechanics are being able to teleport around, and pick up the cube from long distances. No portals, no exploring the environment, no train ride.
The elevator ride down from Mel is there as an extra, that's about it.
What the heck. Garbage.
Just found this explanation from one of the devs on the Steam forum.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/446750/discussions/0/357284131783419730/
Zepp Twofist
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I ran through the Portal Stories stuff now. It was pretty well made, but the puzzles felt more like a very basic tutorial. I knew that it was going to be short, but I would have liked it if the difficulty of the last one or two puzzles had been a bit more advanced. Also, the last puzzle has a hard fail state which is something no proper Portal game has had as far as I can remember. Humor didn't do it for me either, but they had to compete with one of the funniest games made, so I don't fault them too much for that
That being said, they nailed the aesthetics of it all, and that last elevator ride down was pretty cool looking. Hopefully it was a teaser for what is to come.
That being said, they nailed the aesthetics of it all, and that last elevator ride down was pretty cool looking. Hopefully it was a teaser for what is to come.
Confusatron
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I ordered by Vive Friday, May 13. It's in fulfillment now and my credit card shows a pending charge for the full amount from HTC. I'm officially in check my order status every 30 minutes mode now!
And to think just last week I thought I'd be waiting until the end of June at best to get my Rift preorder.
And to think just last week I thought I'd be waiting until the end of June at best to get my Rift preorder.
*hatred intensifies*
DouglasteR
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Just played.
Its nice, but mainly because its free.
Its a limited, short "shot" in the Portal universe in a somewhat VR fashion.
Recommended.
Its nice, but mainly because its free.
Its a limited, short "shot" in the Portal universe in a somewhat VR fashion.
Recommended.
DouglasteR
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Interested as well.
Man, I think I am just going to bite the bullet and order it though the vive site. Going to be out of town when it comes to the MS Store anyways :/
Dolphin VR Question!
Are you guys setting the framelimit to 90, to match the Vives refresh rate?
If so, are you also using the reprojection pulling from 60 to 75 in the VR settings?
Some games run decent, but the best I've had has still been noticeably stuttery. Since it's a fresh install I'm not sure if it's shader compilation or something inherent to using dolphin VR with Vive.
Also, Animal Crossing looks really weirdly awesome. I wish there was a remove culling/render entire world code.
Are you guys setting the framelimit to 90, to match the Vives refresh rate?
If so, are you also using the reprojection pulling from 60 to 75 in the VR settings?
Some games run decent, but the best I've had has still been noticeably stuttery. Since it's a fresh install I'm not sure if it's shader compilation or something inherent to using dolphin VR with Vive.
Also, Animal Crossing looks really weirdly awesome. I wish there was a remove culling/render entire world code.
GuitarAtomik
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I haven't seen one but my understanding is that it's just a regular obj file ala the controller or basestation that you upload.
EDIT: Oh shit! My Norse controller skin is in the Most Popular Items slideshow!
Dreams-Visions
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If you aren't enjoying what's available to play, sell it for high price and buy it again later or something. Or pick up some of the more formal sit-down games.
This all assumes you have the more popular games already.
KatamariOnTheRocks
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If enough people are interested we could always start a Gaf community project.
We can all contribute to a "game" that consists of our collective experiments with VR, and this way some people could work on the technical side of a mechanic or game idea, and then someone else can create content/assets to flesh out that idea.
Teknopathetic
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"My Vive's starting to collect some dust. Not much to play on it. Most of the stuff is a non-game, a bad game, a college project or very very short.
The thought of 'this wasn't worth the money' is entering my mind now."
I don't know what you have, but If you have any interest in simulation, pick up Elite Dangerous, pCars (or future race sims) and download DCS World (comes with 2 planes for free, I believe) which are more filling than pretty much everything else.
At this point, I'd say that if you're not developing or into cockpit games i.e. Elite: Dangerous, Racing Sims, flight sims then it's absolutely *not* worth it for most people unless they're an artistic type that adores Tilt Brush. It's very early days and it forces a paradigm shift in game design, so for at least the next few months there's not going to be much in the way of truly satisfying games.
Which is why it's a bit humorous to see people give Oculus so much shit over delaying their controllers, because outside of the (real) possibility of fragmentation and developers choosing not to make tracked controller games, it's almost a complete non-issue as it stands *today*.
The thought of 'this wasn't worth the money' is entering my mind now."
I don't know what you have, but If you have any interest in simulation, pick up Elite Dangerous, pCars (or future race sims) and download DCS World (comes with 2 planes for free, I believe) which are more filling than pretty much everything else.
At this point, I'd say that if you're not developing or into cockpit games i.e. Elite: Dangerous, Racing Sims, flight sims then it's absolutely *not* worth it for most people unless they're an artistic type that adores Tilt Brush. It's very early days and it forces a paradigm shift in game design, so for at least the next few months there's not going to be much in the way of truly satisfying games.
Which is why it's a bit humorous to see people give Oculus so much shit over delaying their controllers, because outside of the (real) possibility of fragmentation and developers choosing not to make tracked controller games, it's almost a complete non-issue as it stands *today*.
I for one like the fact that VR isn't always all about videogames or videogame type long sessions.. Anyway I had a few similar thoughts like you had a few days in. But then it went away because I didn't try to force myself to use it.. I'm glad I didn't sell it because I've had a lot of fun with it since then, I think I spent three or four hours in PCars with a wheel yesterday.. And this evening I played quite a few rounds of Audioshield (it finally started clicking for me..) And I suspect that Vive support is going to ramp up a lot from now.
UnrealEck
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I have Project Cars. It's pretty cool in VR, but nothing amazing that has me wanting to play it all that much.
I don't have Elite yet. I did plan on it but I'm having doubts getting it now because I'd only want to play it with a HOTAS and I need to buy that too. I don't want to buy that and have it be unused.
I think if someone came to me with £750 cash in hand right now there's a fair chance I'd sell it.
But I can't be bothered dealing over the internet with it. eBay takes 10%, then I need to charge a bunch for delivery then I need to gamble on who is trustworthy.
The technology is cool and the limitations don't bother me. It's just the games. They're pretty crap. Some of them are just downright awful. I expected it to be quite bad but it's worse now that I've gotten the headset and tried it and no longer have that to excite me as much.
I don't have Elite yet. I did plan on it but I'm having doubts getting it now because I'd only want to play it with a HOTAS and I need to buy that too. I don't want to buy that and have it be unused.
I think if someone came to me with £750 cash in hand right now there's a fair chance I'd sell it.
But I can't be bothered dealing over the internet with it. eBay takes 10%, then I need to charge a bunch for delivery then I need to gamble on who is trustworthy.
The technology is cool and the limitations don't bother me. It's just the games. They're pretty crap. Some of them are just downright awful. I expected it to be quite bad but it's worse now that I've gotten the headset and tried it and no longer have that to excite me as much.
OK. Sell it then.
DouglasteR
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I have so many games to play.
Im lacking the time actually.
Im lacking the time actually.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Yeah, I'd like to sell mine, too. But unless someone wants to buy it for $1300 ish, I'd rather just keep it after taxes and shipping the big ass box. It's a cool toy.
So Portal Stories. At least it's free. Looking forward to playing it tonight.
So Portal Stories. At least it's free. Looking forward to playing it tonight.
Yeah, but this is exactly what I expected when I bought it. You are paying a lot of money to get a demo of what games will be like in a couple years, and by the time there are a few really must-have VR-only games the current generation of headsets will be outdated.
How, pcars runs terrible for me on a 980ti with all settings, the two times i tried to play it i got nausea. In the steam forums people are also having the same problem, the game itsnt 90fps or something.
I'm having the same issue. Tried again tonight but immediately got the cold sweats and had to drop out.
I was surprised how physically demanding Holoball can get. It and Audioshield are quickly replacing my indoor bike for cardio.
It sounds like you don't remember much the transition from 2D to 3D games. It was gradual, and didn't kick in real strong until like 1996, almost 3 years after the first "dedicated" 3D consoles had appeared. This is what paradigm shifts feel like. It's different than a new console launch because there is such a big difference between the old and "new" types of games. Unlike a new console launch where old content can be reused and made pretty to fill in the gaps, you can't really go around finding more VR content. Sure you can try stuff like VorpX, but for the most part you're just going to have to wait. And likely, before VR development takes off and you have a lot of content to choose from, your headset will become outdated.
Such is the life of living on the bleeding edge of technology. If that's not for you, you can still sell your headset for a profit.
Myself? I wouldn't miss these early days for the world.
So I messed around with Elite Dangerous tonight. I upped the Super Sampling to 2x, then reduced the HMD display quality till I got a smooth framerate in VR. Seemed to help with the aliasing by giving a softer image vs no SS and max HMD quality. Those bugged by the pixel crawl, give it a try.
Assuming you've played the best stuff, sell it and lose probably nothing.
Edit: I'd liken this to any console launch myself. Don't remember the last time I was overwhelmed with quality gaming day one. Usually takes 6 months before anything substantial is released, so me not playing the Vive everyday, does nothing to diminish it's value in my eyes.
The price though. Fuck. I mean, THAT I get. Still, you couldn't have expected things to go any different this early on.
AwesomeMeat
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I feel bad for the people that get motion sickness with classic controls. I've been having a blast playing the new DOOM in VorpX and also just reinstall GTAV with the FOV mod to play through with VorpX.
How does Doom play via VorpX? I'm used to classic style locomotion in VR (DK1) so it won't bother me.
I just need to know if 90fps is possible on a single 970.
Teknopathetic
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"Will I need to install NVIDIA's 3d vision or HD audio drivers to use the vive?"
No.
No.
Nope, this is all run through Steam VR
I finally got to try out budget cuts after moving my Vive into an area with some more space. God damn. When I had one of those robots look at me I freaked. Like one of those gasp true scares. I just fell on the floor cracking up after.
Also, the one part had the two floors with the beams. I teleported on one and instinctively made my feet so they'd be balancing on the beam. I started to lose my balance at one point and I really thought I was going to fall. Probably my favorite experience so far.
Also, the one part had the two floors with the beams. I teleported on one and instinctively made my feet so they'd be balancing on the beam. I started to lose my balance at one point and I really thought I was going to fall. Probably my favorite experience so far.
AwesomeMeat
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As of right now since Doom is "unsupported" the 3d reconstruction isn't enabled so it actually runs really well. Anything over 45fps with VorpX is usually fine anyways.
The 3d reconstruction doesn't bother me and for most it probably helps with preventing motion sickness
Dusktildawn48
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Still can't figure out vorpx. Everything I play looks and runs like ass.
AwesomeMeat
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You usually need to change the 3d reconstruction to z-normal. The geometry 3d is normally just too demanding.
Have you tried playing Oculus' games on your Vive?
Most of them are content packed unlike vive games. Sure you are missing out on room scale, but VR still adds a wow factor to traditional games.
artsi
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I'm feeling a bit same, but I'm always thinking maybe there's something just around the corner so I haven't sold it yet.
I know it'll be worth it in the end, just waiting for the day. Maybe it's when that GTAV mod releases.
New video from it, BTW:
https://giant.gfycat.com/RecklessSevereHind.mp4
I disagree because I'm finding plenty of the games that require hand tracking or 360 tracking to be absolutely compelling. Budget cuts, bowslinger, audioshield, vanishing realms etc are all better for motion tracking and room scale.
I do think you need to understand that this is new tech,and you will get more mileage from it if you are interested in the journey and not just the destination. But I absolutely don't think only cockpit games justify VR right now (although project cars is pretty great and I'm adding a wheel & hotas to my shopping list)
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