Allnamestakenlol
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Does Elite play nice with the vive now or is the IQ still uber fubar?
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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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BigTnaples
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Pretty certain it's still fubar, which is super frustrating. Really would like to get into it on my Vive.
Teknopathetic
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You might want to try using something like QuickSync or Nvenc in OBS to offload the streaming to something besides your CPU?
Zalusithix
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- Goes to buy VorpX.
- Notices payment processing is handled by DR.
- Goes through with it anyhow despite knowing something would go wrong.
- Order gets stuck in some bullshit verifying stage.
Trojan
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Reposting for new page, can anyone clarify if Virtual Desktop is worth it?
What are the main differences between working on my desktop in Virtual Destop vs. using desktop in BigScreen Beta or just the Vive version of desktop? Just trying to figure out if it's worth having VD or if I can get a similar experience from BigScreen. I basically just want a good way to play 2d games and adjust the screen to my liking.
What are the main differences between working on my desktop in Virtual Destop vs. using desktop in BigScreen Beta or just the Vive version of desktop? Just trying to figure out if it's worth having VD or if I can get a similar experience from BigScreen. I basically just want a good way to play 2d games and adjust the screen to my liking.
UnrealEck
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Then I need it.
Engage.
Yeah i've used OBS to stream and to record at 1080p 60 fps. (not at the same time).
I recorded Project Cars, Out of Ammo and Audioshield and I didn't really notice any problems from memory.
Project Cars was likely dropping to 45 FPS though, but the async timewarp-like thing Vive uses must have did its job well.
My specs are similar to yours. 980 Ti and a 6700 for the CPU (stock).
No, it's been years since I did anything like that and the world is a very different place. I didn't even learn C, I did Pascal
although UE4/Unity do sound quite approachable, I might see how easy they are to experiment withHaven't tried big screen but I think that is multiplayer focused?
Virtual desktop's main features for me are the ability to change the field of view and distance of the screen, and good support for 360/180 degree videos. The screen size is the most important - steamVR desktop mode is really difficult for me to see small text, so something common like wanting to change the audio routing settings in steamVR because it forgot them again, is made difficult because of that. Plus because the text is small it can be difficult to accurately click on an item.
Virtual desktop used to have a major failing that it needed a mouse and keyboard to use (steamVR uses a laser pointer coming out of the vive controller). But it just got updated and uses the vive trackpad as a mouse now, so it is much more usable without having to go and sit at your computer - especially useful if you just want to play a few videos.
Trojan
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Thanks, that's exactly what I needed to know
Tried Revive last night. Lucky's Tale looks really nice, runs pretty smooth. Though the movement was unsettling, think this is due to the game?
I'm so used to movement of the camera being tied to my movement in the room at this point. I'm guessing the camera pan is just kicking my stomach in.
Couldn't get GZ3DOOM to work. I assume the Revive wrapper can't capture what calls they're making to the Oculus API. Not looked at any code for either, so haven't a clue.
I'm so used to movement of the camera being tied to my movement in the room at this point. I'm guessing the camera pan is just kicking my stomach in.
Couldn't get GZ3DOOM to work. I assume the Revive wrapper can't capture what calls they're making to the Oculus API. Not looked at any code for either, so haven't a clue.
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thepotatoman
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I think GZ3DOOM's executable was made to make it easily work with the Oculus store outside of the Oculus store, but that makes it work terribly with Revive.
Sadly it sounds like the developer can't afford a Vive to make it work right now, but maybe someone else can do something about it with the source code
I wish Valve would put all the steamVR settings into the large SteamVR settings page. I have to often change the audio settings because it forgets, and they're only accessible through the desktop menu, along with some other settings (like rebooting the headset). Would be much more convenient to get to those on the big VR friendly UI.
Yes this would be very welcome.
Yes, I second this.
Fried Food
Banned
the developer does have a vive and plans to port to vive eventually
https://github.com/cmbruns/gz3doom/issues/121
Haven't really messed with my Vive much for the past couple of weeks (busy/too warm/Doom & Uncharted 4), but tried it again last night and it's kind of amazing how much you forget how cool it is.
Also, really like that you can now do proper 3D environments for the SteamVR home rather than just the 360 degree images. The holodeck is cool!
Also, really like that you can now do proper 3D environments for the SteamVR home rather than just the 360 degree images. The holodeck is cool!
Allnamestakenlol
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Well... Goddamnit.
Wrestlemania
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Vive sold. See you all for version 2!
DouglasteR
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Its today the best "desktop" emulator.
It just works, full 90 fps, lots of options. GET IT NOW.
DouglasteR
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BrettWeir
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Nope
It can act just as Virtual Desktop in the sense that you can place yourself in a set number of environments with a screen however big you want it, however curved you want it, and distance set. I played Diablo 3 for a good hour yesterday (solo game) on an insanely large screen on a beautiful outside deck/patio. It's a fun little tool.Zepp Twofist
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I really like that outside deck. Sometimes I sit there when I watch TV just because I like the environment so much. My only complaint is that Netflix won't work because of DRM stuff.
Yeah, this is a great upgrade. I need to find some time to model my VR room, at least a rough sketch.
Owlowiscious
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Got my green screen... Who's ready for more green screen video spam?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My8q1L30wMQ
Heh, looks like Final Approach put OBS to its limits, the software to put together all the video feeds and record it. the framerate of the video is poop, but when I was playing it was fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My8q1L30wMQ
Heh, looks like Final Approach put OBS to its limits, the software to put together all the video feeds and record it. the framerate of the video is poop, but when I was playing it was fine.
I figured it out for me anyways. You have control over how soft and how aliased you want the image to be.
Step 1) Put Supersampling at 4X
Step 2) Set all other graphics settings to low/off
Step 2) Move HMD Quality slider down until you no longer have any judder.
The better rig you got, the crisper the image (because you can keep HMD Quality higher). This removed almost all pixel crawl/shimmering for me, with a noticeably softer image, which i prefer. I run a 970, with a 980ti I bet it looks great. Text is still hard to read, but just a little lean in on the monitors is all you need. If the devs find a way to make text legible from the chair center, I think its fine as is.
Pcars has similar issues, but DS9X AA puts out a really nice image on the HMD. The new 1080 looks like it could do this at mid/high settings.
We can bitch'n'moan about IQ in these big games, but to get a nice clean image, in far view distances, in VR you need to run 4k@90fps. Hardware just needs to catch up.
Dreams-Visions
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lol 4x supersampling
I'd currently recommend 1x supersampling + MSAA or TXAA. 1.5x supersampling at the most.
Tried various AA with 1.5 ss. Still to shimmery for me. To each their own. Point stands, I do not think the image quality is bad in ED if you have the hardware to push it.
DouglasteR
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4x ? I can only go to 2.0x (this is in the game, are you changing this in the xml ?)
Problem is, Elite only have FXAA and SMAA and both add text aliasing.
You should have by now, but i have friends that got them after the vive showed up. Check you spam folder.
GuitarAtomik
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Just got my HOTAS in yesterday and decided to go ahead and try Elite as is. Maybe it's the fact that I've never played it any other way, or the lowered expectations, or the fidelity in comparison to the majority of other current VR offerings, but it looks fine to me. Some of the further away text is a little hard to read, but still readable and I had a slightly glitchy moment where some asteroids I was flying directly over started to flicker out of existence as I passed them, but otherwise it's totally playable. If an update makes it look better then I can't wait to see what it looks like.
So like I said, I'm not very far yet. I've only done a few of the combat training missions so far but playing this in VR is amazing. Especially with the HOTAS. The sense of scale of your ship and the control is amazing. I can't wait to actually dive deeper in to this thing.
TLDR; If you've never booted Elite up before outside of VR and your rig is pretty beefy, don't be discouraged to give it a chance now.
So like I said, I'm not very far yet. I've only done a few of the combat training missions so far but playing this in VR is amazing. Especially with the HOTAS. The sense of scale of your ship and the control is amazing. I can't wait to actually dive deeper in to this thing.
TLDR; If you've never booted Elite up before outside of VR and your rig is pretty beefy, don't be discouraged to give it a chance now.
Zepp Twofist
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A friend of mine who played it pre-VR thought it looked good enough that he never wants to play it on a monitor again. He has a TitanX though, so he might be able to push some settings a bit higher.
As for myself, I thought it looked good as well, but I haven't really played it much pre VR (or in VR for that matter, I'm having too much fun with PCars at the moment).
Will try that
Hmm, I'll have to check my settings but I may have been recording at the same time..
The framerate was mostly fine after I dropped to 720p 60 but there more hitches than I'd like.
Also I'm not sure what the best type of streaming is through OBS. I have two monitors and my capture area was my second monitor. I was manually dragging the game display mirrors to the second screen and maximizing them. I dunno if that's less efficient than directly capturing a window, but window capture didn't seem to work.
assetto corsa is nice, but needs quite a bit of work - having to handle all menus using a mouse is frustrating, and it doesn't seem to have a position reset button so if you don't have your vive in the right position initially it'll place you way too high/low. You can sort that using the steamVR menu but it'd be better to have it in-game.
The graphics seem smooth, but also way more aliased - lots of shimmering lines everywhere. Makes it seem overall less nice to look at than project cars.
Good to know both games work, but for now I think I'll practice with Pcars simply because it can be controlled completely from the headset.
The graphics seem smooth, but also way more aliased - lots of shimmering lines everywhere. Makes it seem overall less nice to look at than project cars.
Good to know both games work, but for now I think I'll practice with Pcars simply because it can be controlled completely from the headset.
Zepp Twofist
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I read ctrl+space was for resetting position.
AwesomeMeat
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If you get in to Elite, I highly recommend Voice Attack. I honestly can't play without it, not to mention you feel like bad ass yelling commands at your ship. It gives a pretty big advantage to be able to change power distributions on-the-fly while dog fighting.
GuitarAtomik
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Ohhh I didn't even know that was a thing! Is it built in, or is it a separate plugin I have to download?
VorpX software gives you full head tracking and room scale movement. Plus you can move around as usual using analog sticks or keyboard WASD
Can you aim and fire the guns with the motion controller?
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
Unfortunately it is a separate (paid) program. There is a 21 day trial for it if you want to try it first. It works quite well : https://www.voiceattack.com/
The main commands I use are:
- Landing Gear
- Cargo Scoop
- Power Systems | Power Weapons | Power Engines | Balance Power
- Target / Next Target
- Lights
- Hyper jump
No clue. Sorry
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
No. That would have to be enabled by further mods to games.
is there a 'reroute auxilary power to shields' command?
GuitarAtomik
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I just watched a couple videos and I'll likely get it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Pretty sure that's what all the "Power" commands are. "Power Systems" would route power to shields.
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
Yeah that is my "power systems" command. You can make it whatever you want but that is what they call it in game so I went with it.
Are you having any judder with it? I have no clue what it has judder for me, it isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse.
no, seems fine.
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