As long as you understand how a hardware launch goes and especially when there is such a tech revolution happening that practically the development of games needs to be "restarted" and that a lot of the games are more proof of concept that full AAA games you should be fine. I still enjoy it a lot after more than one month.
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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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As long as you understand how a hardware launch goes and especially when there is such a tech revolution happening that practically the development of games needs to be "restarted" and that a lot of the games are more proof of concept that full AAA games you should be fine. I still enjoy it a lot after more than one month.
Depends on if you're susceptible to motion sickness or not. If not, there's tons of AAA content to play.
Krejlooc said:
You're right, I'm being too vague.
To elaborate, my game only really makes use of the tracking of a single controller. Both hands are represented, but only one really does anything. It also makes use of traditional directional controls (analog stick or d-pad style). While I plan on supporting the Vive's "off-hand" touch pad as a directional controller, I don't think it serves as a particularly good one. Traditional gamepads and keyboards are also supported (this game works both with and without motion controls), so for Vive users I was considering making the game suggest using a gamepad in the player's left hand (not a very good suggestion for left-handed players, of course).
Now that Krejlooc mentions it, though, I do wonder if comfort would be an issue over extended periods of time. It hasn't been one for me yet.
Zepp Twofist
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Pretty much this. I can't imagine not having VR again, but I am also looking forward to how much better it will be when the resolution is higher and software support is better. I love to be all in on the ground floor, but recognize that it isn't a polished experience at the moment.
Zepp Twofist
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As long as keyboard and the secondary controller is also available. I don't think I would like very much to be forced to use an xbox controller though.
Pretty much. Discovering the internet unfold in 56k was the most memerizing thing I experienced tech wise. This is so similar.
I just received my HTC Vive replacement 3-in-1 cable. The image is working flawlessly now. No drop outs. The cable even had further isolation with white rubber on the plugs on the HMD side. It fixed the HMD for me.
But WTF... I think one of my base stations has died in the mean time. First time I fire it up in in a couple of weeks. It has remained mounted on the wall with no power connection. I have no kids or pets.
I have had my HTC Vive for a month. I have spent 20+ effective hours likely debugging and troubleshooting (only to isolate issue for being with cable). I bought an extra USB card.
One month and I have yet to spend any considerable time with this.
I recommend you all wait until these are freely available in your neighborhood stores so you can show up on the door and dump it in their lap if anything is off. Now I most likely have another two-week postal round-trip to look forward to.
But WTF... I think one of my base stations has died in the mean time. First time I fire it up in in a couple of weeks. It has remained mounted on the wall with no power connection. I have no kids or pets.
I have had my HTC Vive for a month. I have spent 20+ effective hours likely debugging and troubleshooting (only to isolate issue for being with cable). I bought an extra USB card.
One month and I have yet to spend any considerable time with this.
I recommend you all wait until these are freely available in your neighborhood stores so you can show up on the door and dump it in their lap if anything is off. Now I most likely have another two-week postal round-trip to look forward to.
GuitarAtomik
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Yeah, just have it as a non-default option. I don't think anyone would complain about that.
Like it doesn't turn on at all? No led no nothing?
Should be a generic 12v power supply - you could try grabbing one from Amazon to save time while you wait for a replacement?
I cant see how. In a year or two there will be cheaper headsets.
When you first tried kinnect, it felt...novel. It still felt like there was a machine between me and the experience. Same for the Wii, novel, but was always me interacting with a machine, interacting with a game. I can only speak for the Vive, but the machine is so designed to me as a human, that its interface melts away, its just me and the game, and playing it is as natural as life in general. VR is not going anywhere IMO.
As an option, for players to choose between one of the three viable control solutions for your game, I have no issue with it. For left-handed players you can map WASD to the face buttons or analog to the right stick of course. Never having played a game with that control scheme, I'd be open to trying all options to find the most comfortable. But I wouldn't want it to be the only option available for motion as there is definitely the potential for awkwardness.
I wonder if there's anything in the works to sort of "mount" one or both Vive controllers to a traditional gamepad for certain uses, so that you get tracking simultaneously with full gamepad controls.
I mean is it worth it as a VR experience on this hardware?What would it run better on right now?
That's actually one of the better analogies I've seen so far. Every video I see of a new demo my mind starts racing at the potential; definitely reminds me of poking around America Online and trying to visualize what the internet would one day become
Zalusithix
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56K? Our phone line couldn't even handle that when the modems came out. Capped out at 33.6 until broadband hit. We did get broadband (via cable) long before the masses though, so it wasn't all that bad. Unfortunately lack of competition caused it to stagnate for the longest time. Only just recently started catching up to the rest of the world to some extent with a 200mbit plan.
Hopefully the same doesn't happen to VR. As much as I don't care for Oculus' behavior as a company, we need multiple major providers of headsets to drive competition.
I have it on a i7-2600k with a 980ti. I think it is definitely worth it. I think the Humble Store has it for $20 still?
If you have problems with the framerate, use less opponents. I think it's really awesome.
* See that World of Diving is 66% off on Humble Spring Sale
* See that Steam page says it supports Vive
* Check out the Steam forum for the game
* Back away slowly
Apparently the game has never worked with the CV1 yet somehow they have the icon that says it has Vive support. That a shit ton of accusatory posts about the game being abandonware.
It runs fine on my 4690 + GTX 970. I don't even have to use the lowest settings.
* See that Steam page says it supports Vive
* Check out the Steam forum for the game
* Back away slowly
Apparently the game has never worked with the CV1 yet somehow they have the icon that says it has Vive support. That a shit ton of accusatory posts about the game being abandonware.
It runs fine on my 4690 + GTX 970. I don't even have to use the lowest settings.
bloodydrake
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I disagree I think VR is here to stay..the amount of investment in the social consciousness is just to high to compare to kinect.
Will Vive and oculus be successful and long term leaders? that's a good question. Who the players are gonna be and how the landscape shakes out is very uncertain. But VR and then AR in combination isn't going away.
I have a 980ti and a 4790K and it runs very well.
But it's still Project Cars, so the cars control like soapy boats.
BrettWeir
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Use painters tape to outline your chaperone walls! Problem solved!
AwesomeMeat
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I finally got the magically settings for Wind Waker in Dolphin. It feels a lot better in a "doll house" scale. Think Lucky's Tale. Excited to get more in to this later!
33.6? Luxury! We had 9.6 and we were grateful for it!
Dreams-Visions
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Really now? must-try?
2400 baud here and Prodigy Internet is what I had. step your struggle games up, nerds.
Same here. Zero regrets. Though every owner would recognize first gen issues. Plus, it's launch window, so deep games are counted on one hand.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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VR is a genre, not a platform, so the comparison makes no sense.
Instead of Kinect, we should be comparing it to motion controls as a whole, if one were inclined to make just such a comparison
Could you post your config settings for it? I've been meaning to try Zelda in VR.
Genre? Wtf.
It's a platform man, a delivery medium. It encompasses genres within it.
You can't compare it to motion controls either. That's an input. VR is much more than that.
Yes please.
Sounds like someone who never tried or doesn't understand VR in any way, shape or form.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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If you reread what you quoted, I didn't compare it to motion controls.
Perhaps "genre" wasn't the best word. My point was that it doesn't make sense to compare an entire sub-category of games--which consists of multiple devices--against a single device that itself was part of a larger movement. I was only trying to make the comparison make more sense; I wasn't commenting on whether I agreed with it
Sounds like someone who truly doesn't know what they're talking about in any way, shape or form. What is it about VR that sets some of you guys off? I wasn't attacking or even commenting on VR at all, so your kneejerk overreaction is extremly odd. I've played for multiple hours over at my friend's house who has two Vives, even
It doesn't make any sense to lump kinect wii/move into just "motion controls" either. They are completely different in what they can and can't do.
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Zalusithix
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Capped out at, but started lower. Granted it was never as low as 9.6. We didn't go online until Windows 95 with a 200MHz Pentium. Was either a 14.4 or a 28.8 with that, but relatively quickly went to a 33.6. I pity anybody with a 9.6 - even on the early web.
"Instead of Kinect, we should be comparing it to motion controls as a whole, if one were inclined to make just such a comparison" (bold part was edited in)
So in response to a comparison that makes no sense, you suggested a different comparison that also makes no sense? For what purpose?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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To have an argument that makes more sense? I already explained why the original comparison was silly; the modified one was less so. Even if it's something I may not agree with, it's something that I could see being argued if one were inclined, as I said before (and it seems some are, given the Kinect point came up at all).
Just because two sets of devices are different doesn't invalidate all comparisons.
I would argue the exact opposite. Comparing VR as a whole to Wii alone or Kinect alone makes far more sense than comparing VR to "motion controls".
Wii and Kinect have basically nothing in common
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SmiteOfHand
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People respond this way because there has been endless derisive comments about VR being a fad like motion controls. Evilore even had to make a sticky post about it so maybe don't act so surprised that people are tired of discussing it, even if you just meant it as a frame of reference. Referring to it weirdly as a genre didn't help either.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I already said it wasn't the best choice of word, but it wasn't meant as a dig at all regardless (I simply meant that VR is essentially its own category, which itself consists of subsets). Being hyper-defense doesn't help any more than the ones apparently posting derisive comments--and it certainly shouldn't be an excuse to make ridiculous categorizations about someone because they said something you didn't like (not you personally; I meant the person I replied to earlier).
Can you post your config?
I'm sure this will happen at some point.
I'm tempted to just make a "don't enter the game room when someone is in VR " rule in the house.
28.8 here. EEEEEEAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNHHHHHHHH KSSSHHHHHH
My kids think it is hilarious to sneak up and tap me in the shoulder when I'm using the vive. They might change their mind after I punch one of them.
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