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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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Link to the latest Dolphin VR binary? All I find are SDKs.
888
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So between firmware updates and steam updates my vive went nuts. Didn't work all day yesterday. Late last night I narrowed it down to one of the lighthouses. If I stood in front of one the other was like it wasn't working. I proved this by moving them towards each other. Using one at a time on channel b worked for both but when they were on channel b and c only one would work. I grabbed the firmware off of the one lighthouse and put it on the other and bam it all started working.
That was problem one.
The camera is all jacked now. I lose tracking when I go into the camera and it blanks out. Tried other USB ports etc. Lowered to 45hz and it was stable for a bit. Now it just won't turn on. Never had issues until the headset update I got on steam beta which I am no longer in. I'm just glad it is working with the lighthouses again. I was at my buddies house and his was also doing all sorts of weird shit like mine and he didn't update anything besides Steam. He was getting mad at his for the same stuff mine was doing.
That was problem one.
The camera is all jacked now. I lose tracking when I go into the camera and it blanks out. Tried other USB ports etc. Lowered to 45hz and it was stable for a bit. Now it just won't turn on. Never had issues until the headset update I got on steam beta which I am no longer in. I'm just glad it is working with the lighthouses again. I was at my buddies house and his was also doing all sorts of weird shit like mine and he didn't update anything besides Steam. He was getting mad at his for the same stuff mine was doing.
888
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Yes I tried it the other day. I hate mine craft but this... This is awesome.
me0wish
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Hey guys, I've set up Vive for a friend yesterday, while it felt really fun to play, I generally felt underwhelmed and a bit disappointed, would really appriciate if someone can help me with the issues I had.
1- Low image quality: Pixels are obvious and they break the immersion, the image is blurry, colors weren't good.
2- It didn't feel 3D to me, the image wasn't poping out or it didn't feel like I was looking through a window, it felt like I had a screen on my face, I tried Samsung VR and it wasn't like that.
3- Calibration with the ground is always off, I calibrated it a couple of times, tried moving the light houses in different positions, but it keeps failing, I either have half of my body through the ground, or I'm too tall.
I dont know if this is related, but using the controllers at the edge of my play field and on the ground almost always takes the "sync" off.
I've searched for solutions, and I've tried to apply whatever I've found out, but the image quality is still low, and the blur is still there, any help will be greatly appriciated.
1- Low image quality: Pixels are obvious and they break the immersion, the image is blurry, colors weren't good.
2- It didn't feel 3D to me, the image wasn't poping out or it didn't feel like I was looking through a window, it felt like I had a screen on my face, I tried Samsung VR and it wasn't like that.
3- Calibration with the ground is always off, I calibrated it a couple of times, tried moving the light houses in different positions, but it keeps failing, I either have half of my body through the ground, or I'm too tall.
I dont know if this is related, but using the controllers at the edge of my play field and on the ground almost always takes the "sync" off.
I've searched for solutions, and I've tried to apply whatever I've found out, but the image quality is still low, and the blur is still there, any help will be greatly appriciated.
UnrealEck
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It shouldn't even be like looking through a window. I liken it more to being in another world wearing a scuba mask. Everything should surround you completely and you should be able to tell the size of things and how far away they are pretty much as well as you would in real life. It should be as 3D as the real world essentially.
Glare as well from my experience, though to get rid of glare I seem to have to have it in a perfect sweetspot which I can't seem to find every time.
What exactly did you try on Vive, because this one seems quite strange?
Room Overview in Developer settings
artsi
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It's just not perfect, unfortunately. It should get better with later versions when screens and optics get better.
I put my Vive on sale yesterday, I'll either buy it again later if there's more content or just wait for the second generation. VR is cool, but not 1000€ worth of cool right now (for me).
But if I won't get any profit (possible as they're starting to roll into stores) I'll keep it and wait for better times.
Tried DolphinVR with WW and those settings. Still the image pops around (unexpectedly and if i turn my head I can see the edge off the screen, then it auto corrects by again moving the image.Started making me ill so I quit (yes I disabled culling). Nice concept but I think it would be better to just play on a 2d screen in a big VR theater. Same experience without the wonky head tracking.
mntorankusu
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It seems that having Steam running while using the Vive has an enormous effect on performance. The biggest difference I've found so far has been in Henry (using Revive)-- with Steam running, it's unplayable. Close Steam, and it's perfect. I've also noticed similar issues with my own project in Unity-- when it's performing poorly, I can fix it by closing Steam.
Unfortunately, closing it is not an option for games that are purchased through Steam. And I don't think there's any other way to disable Steam integration, is there?
Unfortunately, closing it is not an option for games that are purchased through Steam. And I don't think there's any other way to disable Steam integration, is there?
Don't you need to have steam Vr running to preview with vr in unity?
Nope, it shifts to open vr. I personally haven't had performance issues with steam vr though.
The latest steamvr update did screw up the overlay while testing unity games. Whenever I go in and out I lose controllers in the unity app. Used to work before and I could even adjust parameters in the editor which was extremely convenient.
It's really not that difficult. Just drill a couple holes to mount the lighthouses and do the very easy room setup tutorial in the SteamVR software. I've had to do the room setup a few times when something happened (lighthouse got knocked?) and the floor was showing as incorrect. Doing the room setup takes all of one minute.
Yeah, I agree. Perhaps adjusting the lenses closer/further apart would help? I have my complaints with VR but the 3d-ness of them isn't one of them.
The spacing between everyone's eyes is different, so an adjustment might be necessary.
mntorankusu
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I'm not talking about Steam VR. I'm talking about keeping Steam VR runnning, and closing Steam. Presumably the big picture mode overlay is what's causing the drop in performance.
GAF probably isn't the best place to ask the question. If/when VR gains popularity, I wonder if there will be non-gamer types with money willing to pay someone to set the whole thing up and do it right.
Probably. You can pay IKEA to build your furniture for you, and that is pretty foolproof
Dusktildawn48
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seems i wasted money on minecraft. i installed the mods to make it work, but when i get to the menu its super jittery, and when i load into a game it crash after about 5 seconds.
The lines where VR is that popular probably converges with the line where VR setup difficulty is low enough that pretty much anyone will be able to do it.
I think you're correct. I'm sure that PSVR will be pretty foolproof, even if it is a step down from Vive as far as tracking goes.
Did you try this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4f5upo/minecraft_for_vive_in_vr_is_our_first_aaa_title/
That's weird, I get no such issues at all....Only problems that show up for me is the start menu not having correct orientation. Moving my head doesnt show the edge of the screen but the surrounding world. It never auto-corrected for me once. Ill post my settings a little later if you wanna try again.
How jittery? I do get a bit of judder but not enough that Id say I really took notice.
me0wish
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The lab, Vanishing realms, Space Pirate trainer, The blue, HordeZ, Audio shield. I never felt that I was there.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, I was the most hyped out of my friends, and I'm the most disappointed, it's not nearly as good as the Internet makes it.
Surely the potential is there, but I think it will need a couple of years to be as good as I hoped it to be.
Did you adjust the IPD and the lenses distance from the eyes? Do you wear glasses?
The lack of 3d depth is a very strange complain. Especially about The Lab. The 3d sense in there is very good. The secret shop is one of the best 3d experiences.
Dusktildawn48
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still same results. jittery menu, crash once i load in. getting error Description: Rendering Block Entity
Ok, after fiddling with WW in VR Ive fixed the judder issue completly.
The settings I used are as follows:
- Make sure that SteamVR has display mirror unchecked
- Make sure you are in extended mode and not direct mode(direct mode is a lot more hw intensive and can introduce pop-in), when playing in extended mode make sure that background input in the controller settings is turned on
A few minor issues Ive found:
- start menu doesnt orient itself correctly
- there is a little line that you may notice on Links head.
Other than those two issues, the game runs like a dream. Once I get the 1080 Im really gonna try and push the res on this.
The settings I used are as follows:
- Make sure that SteamVR has display mirror unchecked
- Make sure you are in extended mode and not direct mode(direct mode is a lot more hw intensive and can introduce pop-in), when playing in extended mode make sure that background input in the controller settings is turned on
A few minor issues Ive found:
- start menu doesnt orient itself correctly
- there is a little line that you may notice on Links head.
Other than those two issues, the game runs like a dream. Once I get the 1080 Im really gonna try and push the res on this.
me0wish
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Yes.
No.
As far as I know, my eye sight is completely fine, I could feel the sense of scale, but I couldn't really feel the depth, maybe I was too tired and my brain wasn't functioning properly.
Dusktildawn48
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Fixed the crashing in Minecraft. Now just the jitter problem. And I realized I don't know what the he'll to do in this game
Depends on what you were expecting as well. VR isn't like 3D cinema with the depth. I mean, when seeing 3D at the movies, you NOTICE the dept. But when you're walking around in real life, you don't really think about depth. VR is more like that, in that you don't really notice the depth that way.
Just you mentioning you could feel the sense of scale. That's depth, that's getting the idea that "this object is huge, cause it's close" or "this object is huge, but still far away". So if you saw scale, you should've seen depth as well, you just didn't really notice it/think about it.
I think a lot of people go into VR thinking it'll be like 3D cinema, but... you know bigger. It's nothing like that at all imo.
I assumed the judder was because of low framerate? Whenever I experience judder in the game it's always because the framerate is taking a hit.
Dusktildawn48
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Not likely. Running 980ti with 6700k. Should my frame rate be set to unlimited? It won't let me lower it.
Edit: its smooth on my 2nd display
SmiteOfHand
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My biggest VR complaint is how SPT switches back to the triple shot every reset not matter which gun you are on. It is the little things.
I think I've tried a good amount of room scale stuff. Have not tried any seated/cockpit stuff yet. Any recommendations? I don't have a HOTAS or wheel but if it works well enough with a controller I'd be down for anything.
I think I've tried a good amount of room scale stuff. Have not tried any seated/cockpit stuff yet. Any recommendations? I don't have a HOTAS or wheel but if it works well enough with a controller I'd be down for anything.
I never touched any of framerate settings. hm, are you running in extended mode?
SPT is still in Early Access iirc, so could be a good point to give the devs about.
Only tried Elite Dangerous on the Vive, and it works fine with the controller after you've learned all the buttons I'd say.
Dusktildawn48
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how can i tell?
Irrational Exuberance demo is the best secret experience on Vive. It's fantastic. I hope they follow up properly with the full thing.
If you go to the steamVR window and right click, then go to devices, you should see the option "Direct Mode". If it's unchecked then you're in extended mode.
Dusktildawn48
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It is indeed checked.
uncheck it. you wanna be playing in extended mode. Most non native VR games are better run in extended mode vs direct mode.
Dusktildawn48
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Ill do that in a few. Was does that option even mean?
Makes the PC see the headset as a separate device.
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