GuitarAtomik
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I can vouch for this one. Only had a chance to play one session, but it's pretty fun so far and a good work out.
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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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I can vouch for this one. Only had a chance to play one session, but it's pretty fun so far and a good work out.
Dreams-Visions
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Hi guys! I'm one of the Developer of Edge Guardian, we want to let you know that our game is available on Steam Early Access!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/518000
Full Trailer here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_nBrANNQQ
Full Gameplay Session Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Ha_mM16Vw
We really need feedbacks, can you spread the love for beating things? <3
Sounds good. I'm in.
Zalusithix
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It's sad, but AMD just isn't a viable option on the CPU side right now. We'll see what 2017 brings... It's been a long, long time since I've had the luxury of considered them for building a PC where performance was of any importance.
Thanks for the feedback on VorpX. I really don't mind fiddling with settings so I might give it a try.
On another note, I'm on the fence with buying either Star Citizen or Elite
angerous. I know they aren't exactly the same but they are some what similar. How is the VR in E? Does it improve the experience? Is it worth buying it over Star Citizen?
On another note, I'm on the fence with buying either Star Citizen or Elite
angerous. I know they aren't exactly the same but they are some what similar. How is the VR in E? Does it improve the experience? Is it worth buying it over Star Citizen?Sleeping Lesson
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Thanks for the feedback on VorpX. I really don't mind fiddling with settings so I might give it a try.
On another note, I'm on the fence with buying either Star Citizen or Elite
There is no VR support in Star Citizen and likely won't be for a long time.
Elite is still one of the best VR games on the market. Definitely improves the game, which I otherwise found pretty shallow.
Zalusithix
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Did you have Bluetooth auto shutdown enabled for them? There's no reason for them to be in anything other than standby mode when you're not playing.
fuzzy_slippers
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That Rift setup sounds pretty awkward. I could drag a cord along the edge of the room but if they really recommend people do that there's going to be a lot of ribbing in the press. I didn't know about Revive but the only current Oculus exclusive I think looks interesting is The Climb and as much as I've always wanted something closer to a proper climbing game I'm not sure about $50 for a short experience. Especially with no refunds on the Oculus store if the game gave me motion sickness I couldn't adjust to.
Now I just gotta get the wife on board for $800 vr. One advantage to Oculus doing a $600 headset and another $200 for motion controls is reducing that initial sticker shock.
There's been zero news about a Vive refresh right? I wonder if they'll do piecemeal upgrades whenever that happens. People accept new phones, consoles,etc come out with new versions but somehow having to drop another $800 on an incremental VR upgrade seems steep. Offering a way to upgrade base stations, controllers, or send in your headset to pay for the new optics would seem like a way to make that less harsh for earlier adopters.
fuzzy_slippers
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Did they ever fix Elite text rendering on Vive? I found articles from back when the Vive first came out with people comparing Elite Vive to Rift and how text looked worse on the Vive. As I recall it was just a quirk of the Vive lenses and how they did text but people thought the devs could come out with a way around it.
Sleeping Lesson
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There was a recent update where they claimed some VR fixes, but from what I've seen it's still not where it needs to be. If your system can handle it, increasing the SteamVR rendering resolution helps a lot. The in-game supersampling doesn't seem to do anything on the Vive.
The game is still better with the Rift, unfortunately.
During the tribulations of trying to get VR working proper, disabling Bluetooth was one of the steps. So it wasn't on.
Now I'm worried the other lighthouse is going to break as soon as I get the last one back. They didn't let me send in both.
Zalusithix
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There's been random rumors about a refresh, but nothing concrete. It's plausible we'll see one around the 1 year mark with ergonomic adjustments and changes to the electronics to drive the price down.
As for upgrades, the lighthouses will more than likely carry over to the second gen. Controllers are a tossup. The headset, on the other hand, most definitely isn't going to have the possibility to upgrade it.
During the tribulations of trying to get VR working proper, disabling Bluetooth was one of the steps. So it wasn't on.
Now I'm worried the other lighthouse is going to break as soon as I get the last one back. They didn't let me send in both.
I doubt the second will fail. While having less wear and needless power consumption is better, the laser and motor lifespans should on average allow for 24/7 operation for many years before hardware failure. Your failure is just one of the flukes. It's just unfortunate that HTC sucks on the RMA side of things.
They don't even suck. They're super nice and helpful. It's just taking longer than expected.
And all these great VR games releasing makes it worse! But my step-up got approved, so I should be gaming in upscaled fixed lighthouse greatness soon enough.
Zalusithix
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Taking that long qualifies as sucking, regardless of how friendly they are about it. RMA replacements should go out within a few days of receiving the item at most. I'm sorry, but I can't cut HTC slack anymore. I gave them the benefit of the doubt back during launch, but they've had plenty of time to get their shit sorted out since then.
If I had to do everything over again, I'd still buy a Vive over a Rift for a number of reasons, but I'm not going to excuse them for their shortcomings.
BigTnaples
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Been out of the loop for a while with vacations and work and Deus Ex, having the urge to mess around in my Vive room some more.
Any good scary stuff out here yet?
Any big games or patches/updates I've missed?
Any good scary stuff out here yet?
Any big games or patches/updates I've missed?
Updates for Vanishing Realms and Space Pirate Trainer.
Also get GPU Cubes VR. It's not "big," it's just the most in awe I've ever been.
A Chair in a Room is scary, and has some really great roomscale VR. Just some jumpy hand interaction physics at times.
Haint
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The Bellows is a good scary demo.
A Chair in a Room and The Bellows I guess, but the former has been out for a while.
PS the Solus Project has a good whack of horror in it, too. OT here.
In general, or in the horror department?
Out of Ammo
Raw Data
Edit: Holy shit get pierhead! It's super polished and supports online play.
I have to ask so that I may be able to feel better about my lack of gaming skillz:
Has anyone here actually successfully completed the most recently added mission in Raw Data on "normal" difficulty or higher?
We've given it 4 tries so far and failed every time.
(Despite or maybe because that, I feel like Raw Data is still continuously getting more amazing)
Has anyone here actually successfully completed the most recently added mission in Raw Data on "normal" difficulty or higher?
We've given it 4 tries so far and failed every time.
(Despite or maybe because that, I feel like Raw Data is still continuously getting more amazing)
Sleeping Lesson
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I need to get Raw Data.
Melon Husk
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Reinstalling Windows did the trick and Dashboard appears. Valve hid the qt app files in too many damn places. As a note for anyone else manually deleting steam registry files manually like they instruct did not help.
You mean you don't play Paintball every day? Paintball without gearing up or getting dirty, hello?!
You mean you don't play Paintball every day? Paintball without gearing up or getting dirty, hello?!
Compsiox
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Teleporting kinda kills it for me personally.
Melon Husk
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Oh. I'd be all over Onward but the sliding kills it for me. Whoever can stomach it, check it out. Vids at this guy's channel.
GuitarAtomik
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Onward is amazing. The new Subway map is pretty awesome.
Compsiox
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Updated headset and controller firmware?
Duder, I can't even beat the third mission on easy.
If that's the reason your lighthouse went bad, that's real shitty design/manufacturing quality on HTC. A device that is designed to be static and plugged in the majority of the time should not fail so quickly from just being plugged in.
Luckily I unplug mine, but I hope that isn't an actual root cause of your issue.
eeeh I doubt that. I've had my lighthouses plugged in since I got the headset(end of April) and haven't had any issues.
It really sucks, cause I bought a bunch of VR games right before it broke. But now I'll have a 1080 to play them with. This month without VR has been hard!
Agreed, they inferred the devices would be fine plugged in and on .. permanently .. I have one that is plugged in behind a couch so it was hard to unplug, the one that was easier to get to I unplugged frequently, go figure that's the one that still works.
As have I, which HTC informed me was the cause of the issue. I'm just trying to be informative so you guys don't have this happen. I suggest putting them on a light switch or power surge so it's easy to turn off instead of unplug.
The fact that we still can't buy replacements in the US is also pretty annoying. I could have just bought a new one and had a spare in the time this is taking
Come on Valve, this is your flagship hardware.
Edit: the lighthouses are on the site now, but it's "Out of Stock".
Agreed, they inferred the devices would be fine plugged in and on .. permanently .. I have one that is plugged in behind a couch so it was hard to unplug, the one that was easier to get to I unplugged frequently, go figure that's the one that still works.
As have I, which HTC informed me was the cause of the issue. I'm just trying to be informative so you guys don't have this happen. I suggest putting them on a light switch or power surge so it's easy to turn off instead of unplug.
The fact that we still can't buy replacements in the US is also pretty annoying. I could have just bought a new one and had a spare in the time this is taking
Come on Valve, this is your flagship hardware.
Edit: the lighthouses are on the site now, but it's "Out of Stock".
Zalusithix
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Not sure what the issue for you is. They add fine for me. $135 though, and $14 shipping. Not exactly cheap.
Jaxapollo, did you have the standby feature enabled?
I always have my lighthouses plugged in, but they do go into standby mode.
I always have my lighthouses plugged in, but they do go into standby mode.
That's reassuring
Zalusithix
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He did not. Honestly though, I don't see how the lasers, LEDs, or motors should fail in that time frame anyhow. These are components that should have far longer lifespans on average.
I agree completely, but I was still curious.
Thanks for replies everyone. Shame, i was expecting budget cuts to be a lot closer. How about older games, i know that you can fiddle around with some program to make vive work with games that don't support vr. How easy is the thing to get to work?
I would kinda like to try out older games like the original thief and stuff like that on it, could be pretty cool.
I posted this in the Palmer topic, but I figured I'd get some better replies here.
This entire episode with Luckey has been very disappointing. I've been a big Oculus fan for a while now, mostly because I believe they have the best (and most well funded) R&D in VR. If Palmer isn't going to resign over this shit, I might have to start looking at other companies, which sucks.
Does anybody know what Valve is doing these days? I don't think we've heard much out of them since the Vive release, have we? Are they working on future VR hardware? Are they working with HTC, or just by themselves? I have no idea how that works.
I guess the reason I'm more interested in their future stuff, is that I'd probably only be in the market for a Vive-like headset in about a year from now. I figure some 2nd gen hardware might be coming out by then?
This entire episode with Luckey has been very disappointing. I've been a big Oculus fan for a while now, mostly because I believe they have the best (and most well funded) R&D in VR. If Palmer isn't going to resign over this shit, I might have to start looking at other companies, which sucks.
Does anybody know what Valve is doing these days? I don't think we've heard much out of them since the Vive release, have we? Are they working on future VR hardware? Are they working with HTC, or just by themselves? I have no idea how that works.
I guess the reason I'm more interested in their future stuff, is that I'd probably only be in the market for a Vive-like headset in about a year from now. I figure some 2nd gen hardware might be coming out by then?
Zalusithix
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Valve is working on hardware, and has been since before Oculus existed. The difference is Valve isn't producing anything for consumers directly. They worked with Oculus in the hopes they could make a commercially viable headset until Facebook bought them out, and subsequently tried poaching Valve's talent, etc. Then they switched gears and worked with HTC. Valve's tech isn't exclusive to HTC though. The capability for other third parties to make lighthouse compatible gear is rolling out now. The ability to create drivers to interface with OpenVR exists. Valve isn't putting all of its eggs in one basket. They care about the advancement of VR, but not so much who gets us there... well so long as the "who" doesn't try and eat Steam's lunch.
HTC, by the way, is also investing their own money into future Vive versions as well.
Business
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Got Space Pirate Trainer, tried it five or six times, my wife asks me to play and destroys my highscore on her first attempt. Feels strange.
edit: Just tried The Bellows too and disappointed it doesn't give you a teleport option for locomotion. Moving with the trackpad makes me feel uneasy and while blur/turn the room is interesting, in this particular demo in a long corridor makes moving from A to B a real tedious task.
edit: Just tried The Bellows too and disappointed it doesn't give you a teleport option for locomotion. Moving with the trackpad makes me feel uneasy and while blur/turn the room is interesting, in this particular demo in a long corridor makes moving from A to B a real tedious task.
This weekend I carved out some time to play a couple new games and one demo in The Lab that I hadn't tried before. Here's my quick takes:
It's great to see some new titles coming out that continue pushing VR in different directions. I'm impatiently waiting for Accounting to come out...every preview I've read of this has been glowing.
- Goblins & Gnomes Preview: This might be my new go-to game to show to first-time VR guests. It's extremely peaceful and there was a lot of love put into the environments and sound. I like the subtlety that this demo has and also with the amount of detail in the forest area. There is little indication of what to do at first other than take in the scenery, but the game starts giving you small cues through some really good sound work and visual cues. I spent at least 10 minutes peering into the tree houses and marveling at the detail.
Directing in VR sounds like a challenge, and it's clear that Jon Favreau is going for an exploratory and self-paced focus in this game. Gnomes react differently depending on what actions you take, which is a cool technique that I hope more games implement. I am impressed by the potential for the full version of Goblins & Gnomes.
- Onward: I know I'm late to this party and now I can see why there is so much positive word-of-mouth for Onward. This game's realism is next-level. The aiming mechanic clearly got a lot of fine-tuning because it is very stable and precise. At it's core, the game's matches are a blast because the weapon handling feels so good and they are over fairly quickly. I got some intense counter-strike vibes immediately. Having a coordinated team using the mic made this a great experience.
One interesting thing about this game is the movement on the trackpad. It's very functional although it could use some fine-tuning, but when you have your gun to "center" your viewpoint and slow down, I think it really reduces the motion sickness factor. I've read a few comments of people saying they were fine playing this game but other games like Windlands will cause issues, so that's the best explanation I can come up with.
What needs work: UI layout needs a lot of attention, the close proximity of belt items makes it difficult to quickly perform reloads/grenade switches/healing, and the animations are Bethesda-style janky at the moment. But it's an early access game made by a very small team (is it one dude?) and the fact that the weapons feel so good make this game a strong recommend.
- Robot Repair (from The Lab): Holy shit, how had I missed playing this earlier? This is such a great demo that is not only hilarious, it's also one of the best-looking experiences I've seen on the Vive. Valve's VR rendering technique is bar-none the best out there in my book. This demo has everything - great pacing, humor, top-notch visuals, both small and large-scale interactions (the "drawer office" and GLaDOS). Also, GLaDOS. The worst thing about it is how short it is. I am really hoping Valve has a significant number of resources developing more VR experiences right now, because they are amazingly good at it.
It's great to see some new titles coming out that continue pushing VR in different directions. I'm impatiently waiting for Accounting to come out...every preview I've read of this has been glowing.
Vlaphor
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Alright people. I'm probably going to get a Vive in about a week or two and I have a couple questions about setup. I have a 980ti and the ports being used now are a display port for video and the HDMI port for audio (more info here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=216473274&highlight=vlaphor#post216473274), so how would I connect it to the card? Also, is there a way to get an HDMI port on the front of the computer, so that my cables can move around easier? My PC isn't quite center with everything else and I'm worried about the cables dragging everywhere.
I'll have to move a cabinet downstairs to get some more room in my room for Vive, but I'm looking forward to it.
I'll have to move a cabinet downstairs to get some more room in my room for Vive, but I'm looking forward to it.
jokingbird
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You can just use another display port adapter to connect the Vive into your card.
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