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Justified

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SolVanderlyn said:
His posts were all about him not being able to handle reality and professing his love for the magical cute fantasy anime land that he thought life should be. And GOD FORBID you disagreed with him, or tried to tell him that real life had value too, or that he should come out of his bubble, because he would spend like three pages crying about life and how nobody should hate his idea of a rainbow unicorn utopia. He played the cute sensitive card (and he may have actually been sensitive, but still) but he would not ever back down from an argument, and he'd be really in your face about it, too.

Weird stuff he said that I remember, some of which other members in this thread have reminded me of:

-Life is too hard, we should all live in VR.
-He wanted anime eyes.
-Wanted to be transgender (which is fine) but would always bring it up at inappropriate times.
-Everything should be cute.
-Iris from Pokemon Black/White was basically Jesus.
-He would frequently derail threads and make them about his own thing. Example:

GAFfer: "Hey guys did you see the trailer for Street Fighter V!? Awesome, right?"

HolyBaikal: "No. I wish there were more strong sensitive female characters. More games need characters like this. I like characters like this. Chun-li is a strong character, but don't you think she is kind of cartoony? I want more realistic women. But they should be cute too. I wish I was like that. The world would be better if everyone was cute and sensitive. This trailer would be good if it had people like that."

There's plenty more stuff, but it's not his weirdness that people took issue with as much as it was his attitude.
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Yes you are on point with his character summary
 
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Arcadius

Banned
GrandHusk said:
Oh no! Arcadius I prefer this thread to be serious, because you are touching a very delicate matter even if there is plenty who are making fun of it. I didn't have the opportunity to talk with HB much, but I'd like to think that if she reads your post she'll be very happy.

I know it's difficult to know and I don't have any problems with it... it's just that everyone tells you how wrong is to generalize a group of people and nobody seems to cares about us :/
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Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. Just as you do, I vastly prefer the serious over-tone I have set for this thread. If anything, I'd like to believe I've grown more now and will do better to be more round towards others and their hobbies/likes. I'm sorry if I'm stepping out of line, but I'm not entirely sure if you have a waifu as your AV or not, regardless of whether it is or isn't, it's cute!
 
Xaero Gravity

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
I've noticed that those who are sympathetic towards Holy tend to refer to them as a female and those that aren't tend to refer to them as a male. I find that pretty damn interesting. :eek:
 
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Arcadius

Banned
SolVanderlyn said:
Long winded post.
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I get it that members had difficulty with HolyBaikals antics, I even stated as such in the OP. It's absolutely makes sense as to why others have problems with Holy and what Holy encompasses, but please, try to refrain from posting negative things about Holy here, thank you.
 
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InsaneTiger

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Haunted said:
puberty can be a real bitch
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This! I was just thinking the OP reads like someone going through puberty when you get all those raw feelings and can attached them to inanimate objects or "real" people online. In this case: he seems to be deeply affected by a troll!

Don't worry OP, it will pass.
 
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injurai

Banned
SolVanderlyn said:
His posts were all about him not being able to handle reality and professing his love for the magical cute fantasy anime land that he thought life should be. And GOD FORBID you disagreed with him, or tried to tell him that real life had value too, or that he should come out of his bubble, because he would spend like three pages crying about life and how nobody should hate his idea of a rainbow unicorn utopia. He played the cute sensitive card (and he may have actually been sensitive, but still) but he would not ever back down from an argument, and he'd be really in your face about it, too.

Weird stuff he said that I remember, some of which other members in this thread have reminded me of:

-Life is too hard, we should all live in VR.
-He wanted anime eyes.
-Wanted to be transgender (which is fine) but would always bring it up at inappropriate times.
-Everything should be cute.
-Iris from Pokemon Black/White was basically Jesus.
-He would frequently derail threads and make them about his own thing. Example:

GAFfer: "Hey guys did you see the trailer for Street Fighter V!? Awesome, right?"

HolyBaikal: "No. I wish there were more strong sensitive female characters. More games need characters like this. I like characters like this. Chun-li is a strong character, but don't you think she is kind of cartoony? I want more realistic women. But they should be cute too. I wish I was like that. The world would be better if everyone was cute and sensitive. This trailer would be good if it had people like that."

There's plenty more stuff, but it's not his weirdness that people took issue with as much as it was his attitude.
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Yup. You can almost tell the divide of posters in this thread. The people that have really been around to debate with HolyBaikal and those that have formed their opinions on HolyBaikal more recently or from this thread. HB had years pulling this stuff. More tolerance in society for cute stuff is one message, HB's was another entirely.

Arcadius said:
I get it that members had difficulty with HolyBaikals antics, I even stated as such in the OP. It's absolutely makes sense as to why others have problems with Holy and what Holy encompasses, but please, try to refrain from posting negative things about Holy here, thank you.
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One thing that HB encompassed was going into any thread that might have negativity and dissent in it and would beg the question "why do we have to be so mean, why can't we all just be kind and enjoy cute things."

This thread isn't a temple for HB but you're doing a great job as an Apostle of HB.
 
B

bjork

Member
It's strange that this person is something of a known quantity on this forum apparently, but today is the first time I'd ever seen the name. Guess I'm out of the loop.
 
A

Arcadius

Banned
Puruzi said:
I don't know if it's fine to ask, but why was Holy permed? I thought Holy asked to be banned for a while
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Argument with EviLore about athletics and how woman can be stronger or as strong as male counterparts, EviLore was tired of the conversation and how Holy couldn't accept common sense. Not asked at all.
 
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Bold One

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SolVanderlyn said:
His posts were all about him not being able to handle reality and professing his love for the magical cute fantasy anime land that he thought life should be. And GOD FORBID you disagreed with him, or tried to tell him that real life had value too, or that he should come out of his bubble, because he would spend like three pages crying about life and how nobody should hate his idea of a rainbow unicorn utopia. He played the cute sensitive card (and he may have actually been sensitive, but still) but he would not ever back down from an argument, and he'd be really in your face about it, too.

Weird stuff he said that I remember, some of which other members in this thread have reminded me of:

-Life is too hard, we should all live in VR.
-He wanted anime eyes.
-Wanted to be transgender (which is fine) but would always bring it up at inappropriate times.
-Everything should be cute.
-Iris from Pokemon Black/White was basically Jesus.
-He would frequently derail threads and make them about his own thing. Example:

GAFfer: "Hey guys did you see the trailer for Street Fighter V!? Awesome, right?"

HolyBaikal: "No. I wish there were more strong sensitive female characters. More games need characters like this. I like characters like this. Chun-li is a strong character, but don't you think she is kind of cartoony? I want more realistic women. But they should be cute too. I wish I was like that. The world would be better if everyone was cute and sensitive. This trailer would be good if it had people like that."

There's plenty more stuff, but it's not his weirdness that people took issue with as much as it was his attitude.
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Sadly accurate,

but

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Xe4

Banned
Guys, regardless of whether Baikal is a troll or not, you shouldn't go around insulting her. If she was the "I am a huge Xbox fanboy" kinda troll, then sure, whatever. Theoretically Baikal, like any poster with controversial viewponts could be a troll or not. If she is, fine whatever. But if not and she is reading this thread that sucks, especially as she might have some serious psychological problems.

And no, her freaking out on one occasion doesn't prove she is a troll. People are human after all. I'd be more likely that a troll would not act out like she did. Please read the comments before the ones where she cusses. Anyhow, regardless, she is gone now for better or worse. If people miss her a lot there are a lot of avenues to contact her, I am sure. People insulting her are really doing nobody any good.
 
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Arcadius

Banned
Xe4 said:
Guys, regardless of whether Baikal is a troll or not, you shouldn't go around insulting her. If she was the "I am a huge Xbox fanboy" kinda troll, then sure, whatever. Theoretically Baikal, like any poster with controversial viewponts could be a troll or not. If she is, fine whatever. But if not and she is reading this thread that sucks, especially as she might have some serious psychological problems.

And no, her freaking out on one occasion doesn't prove she is a troll. People are human after all. I'd be more likely that a troll would not act out like she did. Please read the comments before the ones where she cusses. Anyhow, regardless, she is gone now for better or worse. If people miss her a lot there are a lot of avenues to contact her, I am sure. People insulting her are really doing nobody any good.
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Thanks for this.
 
W

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
That curse-filled rant by Baikal definitely is odd, but just because someone gets mad and has to vent once doesn't mean everything else they posted was them trolling.

And Baikal identified as a woman, and I think we should respect that. As someone who has those feelings too, I think that was an authentic part of Baikal and it's not right to use male when she repeatedly asked us not too, I don't see why we shouldn't respect that even after she's banned.
 
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Two Words

Member
Arcadius said:
Argument with EviLore about athletics and how woman can be stronger or as strong as male counterparts, EviLore was tired of the conversation and how Holy couldn't accept common sense. Not asked at all.
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Was HB the one that kept saying that we don't know if women can or can't be as strong or as good as men at the top level at sports until women get the same amount of support to do sports and training?
 
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Arcadius

Banned
Two Words said:
Was HB the one that kept saying that we don't know if women can or can't be as strong or as good as men at the top level at sports until women get the same amount of support to do sports and training?
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I'm not entirely sure, it was rather weird and it had to do with stuff I don't keep up with. In the end the point was females can do as well as males.

For that rather upsetting post about Holy going out of character, I don't think it's true and will continue believing so.
 
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Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
Well, I've seen a side of NeoGAF I've never seen before.

Maybe because I haven't played any of the games mentioned in the OP yet.

But it sounds like something happened, harder to read as I don't want to read the Persona 3 spoilers, though. But this sure is something. I've also never heard of Holy before this thread, so I have no opinion, but I find the lengths of effort and some of the follow-up that's happened fascinating.
 
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Epcott

Member
I read it except for the P3 spoilers... Is this bait for "tldr" = banishment posts?

I suppose I may try some visual novels once they migrate to current gen... OP doesn't exactly make me eager to do so with that descent into madness.

Edit: Wish I hadn't read about HB getting into hentai :D
 
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Arcadius

Banned
Epcott said:
I read it except for the P3 spoilers... Is this bait for "tldr" = banishment posts?

I suppose I may try some visual novels once they migrate to current gen... OP doesn't exactly make me eager to do so with that descent into madness.

Edit: Wish I hadn't read about HB getting into hentai :D
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Thanks a ton for reading my post, it's a large amount to digest and even then, a bit out there. I think you'll be okay though on the VN front, there was a lot going on into what I typed. You won't descend into madness, many other people don't.

Note: Holy is not, I repeat, not into that stuff and I would appreciate it if that sort of connection wasn't made, thank you!
 
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Arcadius

Banned
User33 said:
You're not helping your case that you aren't a Holy alt with your constant denial of reality and anything "negative"
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I'm not trying to help myself with anything, I can't stop others posting that type of stuff, I would just appreciate it if they didn't. It's very clear that HolyBaikal was difficult to understand, just leave it at that.

Make digs at me on my post if you'd like, or talk about Persona or other games, all fine.
 
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NEO0MJ

Member
User33 said:
You're not helping your case that you aren't a Holy alt with your constant denial of reality and anything "negative"
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That would be a great twist, this whole reason this thread was left open was so the mods could investigate the account further to make sure it isn't a HB alt.

Two Words said:
Was HB the one that kept saying that we don't know if women can or can't be as strong or as good as men at the top level at sports until women get the same amount of support to do sports and training?
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Yeah.
 
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Camjo-Z

Member
Xe4 said:
Theoretically Baikal, like any poster with controversial viewponts could be a troll or not. If she is, fine whatever. But if not and she is reading this thread that sucks, especially as she might have some serious psychological problems.
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The fact is, troll or not, people like HolyBaikal are not worth entertaining. I'm all for being inclusive and understanding when it's warranted, but sometimes you really need to just say "no, you're wrong, get a grip". HolyBaikal simply does not understand how the world works. His views are offensive, childish and downright sexist. Don't encourage people like him.

Arcadius said:
Note: Holy is not, I repeat, not into that stuff and I would appreciate it if that sort of connection wasn't made, thank you!
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He definitely was. He loved to complain about how violent all hentai was, but (spoilers)
he wouldn't know about that unless he'd watched it.
 
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Vylash

Member
Mauricio_Magus said:
Everyone explodes at times, just because Holy did that once everyone thinks she's a troll?
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Holy was a cool person that was just a bit bad at getting her point across effectively, certainly didn't help that a ton of people made it a point to bully her all the time for no reason
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
The reason people think HB is a troll is because some of the stuff he/she says is just so......delusional. Its hard to sometimes not feel like you're getting trolled (like when HB got seriously upset that some anime girl was crying during certain scenes in a AO VN) . Though it wasn't all the time. HB has made numerous normal threads, especially on gaming side.
 
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Arcadius

Banned
Psycho_Mantis said:
The reason people think HB is a troll is because some of the stuff he/she says is just so......delusional. Its hard to sometimes not feel like you're getting trolled (like when HB got seriously upset that some anime girl was crying during certain scenes in a AO VN) . Though it wasn't all the time. HB has made numerous normal threads, especially on gaming side.
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Right, but in the end, Holy was a pretty special and fun person to witness.
 
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oti

Banned
Iorv3th said:
Me too.

I also thought for a minute he was the guy that wanted to eat a zelda cartridge so it could always be a part of his DNA, but that was someone else.
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Is this a Nintendo Direct thread?
This kinda feels like a bizarro version of a Nintebdo Direct thread.
 
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Mauricio_Magus

Banned
CureVylash said:
Holy was a cool person that was just a bit bad at getting her point across effectively, certainly didn't help that a ton of people made it a point to bully her all the time for no reason
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Part of me is glad she was banned because I hated to see her getting bullied in here.

I get that she derailed threads at times but I just love her sincerity and love for everything that is cute, I also don't get why some people in this thread keep misgendering her.
 
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The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Psycho_Mantis said:
The reason people think HB is a troll is because some of the stuff he/she says is just so......delusional. Its hard to sometimes not feel like you're getting trolled (like when HB got seriously upset that some anime girl was crying during certain scenes in a AO VN) . Though it wasn't all the time. HB has made numerous normal threads, especially on gaming side.
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The whole cliche naive anime speech, to the best of my understanding, was kind of a projected wish-fulfillment thing for them. The forum was an environment in which they could sink into the headspace of thinking and reacting like that.

The one thing I'm amazed at is how long they stuck around considering all of the friction there was
 
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