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Hitokage said:Oh, and the political statement remark makes me want to readd the rolleyes.![]()
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Hitokage said:Oh, and the political statement remark makes me want to readd the rolleyes.![]()
etiolate said:A great seeking of attention is a sign of immaturity. I just think if it was always about respecting her wishes and letting her body go and be in peace, then you'd lbasically have a RIP sort of Tombstone. The issue seemed about dead to me and this will rile it up again. Now that she's passed just let her go.
What was written on the tombstone will last far longer than any controversy that can be generated (unless some idiot decides to come along and smash it, but ignoring that).
That said, is what the tombstone says even the publics business? It's a very personal thing, and to have the public come down and make opinions and pass judgement over that kind of stuff, really speaks much worse about the public and the culture that allows such a thing to happen rather than what's on the tombstone itself (unless it's blatant; like, "Terry says fuck you to <insert protagonist names>" or some such).
and how have you come to the conclusion that he was "seeking attention"?
HE WON? HIS WIFE WAS IN A COMA FOR A DECADE. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DID HE WIN ANYTHINGetiolate said:How does the Tombstone help her? I doubt that tombstone will last as long as the history books will. Infact, in Florida if I remember correctly, you basically lease out your burial ground. He won,
so you're saying you think he is seeking attention because you have some special knowledge of his insides. ok, that is definitely a reasona- OH WAITBecause people are transparent?
hey, when you call someone a 'wife', you are implying the existence of a husband. that is a reference to a third party. this makes no sense.Because he makes reference to himself on someone else's tombstone?
what was needless? the tombstone? the grave?Because it's needless?
yes, i agree, the evidence does not imply that he is "seeking attention", and since it is impossible to gather evidence in favor or against the notion of putting one's soul to rest, i have no idea how this helps your argument. i would guess that you are simply looking for ways to portray him as someone who is inappropriate and immoral. please do us all a favor, and stop.Just think about it. Maybe it's not seeking attention, but it certainly doesn't put her soul to rest.
Zaptruder said:The thing is, it isn't a politically motivated statement; at it's core, it's what was shared between her and her husband. Despite the staunch opposition he faced, and the trials tribulations, demonization and what not he had to overcome, he was able to keep his promise to her. They both shared the belief that if either were ever in a vegetative state, that they would help them pass on.
But you can politicise alot of things, including anything that some group of people might find offensive.
It's a good tombstone; it's deeply personal and respectful of the actual person in the grave, as well as serving a big FU to all the people that fucked with that relationship and understanding that they had.
fart said:HE WON? HIS WIFE WAS IN A COMA FOR A DECADE. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DID HE WIN ANYTHING
so you're saying you think he is seeking attention because you have some special knowledge of his insides. ok, that is definitely a reasona- OH WAIT
ok, let's try again. hey, when you call someone a 'wife', you are implying the existence of a husband. that is a reference to a third party. this makes no sense.
if you would like us to extrapolate that you have issue with him writing on the tombstone in the first person, i would argue that this is probably quite common, and i can't see what could be wrong with it. what was needless? the tombstone? the grave?
a) what would you have him write on the tombstone?
b) WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, TELLING SOMEONE WHAT TO WRITE ON THEIR WIFE'S TOMBSTONE yes, i agree, the evidence does not imply that he is "seeking attention", and since it is impossible to gather evidence in favor or against the notion of putting one's soul to rest, i have no idea how this helps your argument. i would guess that you are simply looking for ways to portray him as someone who is inappropriate and immoral. please do us all a favor, and stop.
Zaptruder said:The thing is, it isn't a politically motivated statement; at it's core, it's what was shared between her and her husband. Despite the staunch opposition he faced, and the trials tribulations, demonization and what not he had to overcome, he was able to keep his promise to her. They both shared the belief that if either were ever in a vegetative state, that they would help them pass on.
But you can politicise alot of things, including anything that some group of people might find offensive.
It's a good tombstone; it's deeply personal and respectful of the actual person in the grave, as well as serving a big FU to all the people that fucked with that relationship and understanding that they had.
talking head said:i kept my promise? what does that mean?
DarienA said:And for the person who(s) said something to effect that gravestone quotes are usually something the person would have been saying themselves?
Fuck.AniHawk said:Well thanks for quoting it because now I am too.
SickBoy said:Actually, the comment was "IMO, a gravestone is about the person buried there, not about the person who buried them."
And people say IMO is redundant...
Obviously, there are different takes, I just think:
a) sending a message to your dead wife through her tomb stone doesn't work, and
b) the message would have been much more poignant on his marker 40 years down the road.
But, as I also say in my original post: "but I'm not in his shoes and what's done is done.."
DarienA said:You weren't the only person who made the comment... thanks for feeling singled out though.
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