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[Beth Cyra]

Well I got everything and I am fairly happy. The PC runs really fast and most of the old software does pretty well.

I will say though I am a bit disappointed in my 570 Superclock though, I get a a bit of chugging in WoW and I thought it would eat WoW alive.

Outside of that I'm a bit fearful of how it will take ME 2 and ME 3 later this year.

 

[herod]

WoW is network/cpu bound in cities

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I bought another fan for my COOLER MASTER 212. I have 1 intake and 1 out now for the CPU. CPU temps have dropped about 2C. I expected more. It's not worse or anything but the added fan is registered as a PC case fan. Is there a way to sync that or have it run faster? Or a monitor for system fans? The CPU fan has it's own dedicated fan plug, I know this much. It works fine but I'm trying to make sure the out (the new fan I just bought that is technically a case fan) is blowing at the same RPM or close to the main stock "in" fan.

To be frank, the gain I am getting is what almost everyone with a push pull configuration is getting so I don't feel bad. The new fan RPM is not as fast as the COOLER MASTER fan though. At least that's what my monitor is telling me.

I want to repost this for the new page as maybe someone knows of good system fan control progs or bios settings. I'm going in there now to look for system fan control.

 

[RedSwirl]

Guys, this was the best analysis I could do to get an idea of what my current power draw is and what it would be upon adding the 6850. I ran CPU-Z and tried to input that information into the calculator at eXtreme Power Supply. The Newegg one didn't even have all my components available and gave me higher estimates than what my current system probably draws.

Again, my current rig to make sure I didn't miss any information with the power calculator:
Dell XPS 420
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
8800GT 512MB
3GB RAM
425w PSU

This is the estimate the calculator gave me AFTER replacing the 8800 with the 6850. I need to know if there is any important info I forgot to input.

 

[Beth Cyra]

WoW is network/cpu bound in cities

Well that completely explains my problem, only happens when I am in a big city with a ton of people.

 

[Anony]

need some advice:

right now, i have a e6600 OC to 3ghz, with 2gb ram, and 5670 (512mb)

i'm thinking of upgrading to a 6850, dont know if it's worth it, because i'm guessing it will be a cpu bottleneck

right now, i have a few options available:
diamond for 160$ BNIB
xfx from launch, 160$
sapphire for 150$

i'm leaning for 160$ diamond because i can get it for 160 new, the other 2 are used

as a note, i'm running the 5670 with accelero s1 rev2 passive, i'm thinking of getting or reusing this with a fan on the 6850
(noise is a big concern for me)

the only game i cant really run will is BFBC2 (switch i barely play), other than that, i can pretty run everything i play smoothly
(this might be a case of i just want to upgrade something on my pc)

just wondering with the situation i am in now, do you think i should upgrade my vid card

 

[1-D_FTW]

Guys, this was the best analysis I could do to get an idea of what my current power draw is and what it would be upon adding the 6850. I ran CPU-Z and tried to input that information into the calculator at eXtreme Power Supply. The Newegg one didn't even have all my components available and gave me higher estimates than what my current system probably draws.

Again, my current rig to make sure I didn't miss any information with the power calculator:
Dell XPS 420
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
8800GT 512MB
3GB RAM
425w PSU



This is the estimate the calculator gave me AFTER replacing the 8800 with the 6850. I need to know if there is any important info I forgot to input.

I don't see what you could be missing. I had a similiar setup and it peaked out at about 200 watts. Unless the 6850 is some exotic part that's using significantly more than the 8800, you're fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...tion&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na

If you really want to know your figures. It's actually one of the coolest tools I own. It's been useful in the most unexpected ways.

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

So, I was putting together this ultra cheap Hackintosh and I got that crazy itch after it was all said and done to upgrade. So, like an addict that needs his fix, I'm doing some upgrades.

I used a GT240 GPU and an Earth Watts 380D PSU for the system. I found a deal on a BFG GTX260 Overclocked MAXCORE for $99.97 and purchased a $.99 pack of AA batteries so I could use the $10 off code. So I ended up paying $102.31.

Now, I know what your thinking, "why didn't that fool go with a GTX460?" and the answer is Hackintosh! The GTX460 isn't the easiest thing in the world to get to work with Snow Leopard and many people never get them 100% working even with the modded Nvidia Mac drivers. The Old GTX2XX cards however usually work out of the box with no driver installs or configurations necessary.

I also went ahead and upgraded the PSU to a SeaSonic S12II 520 for $75.98 after shipping.


So I'm wondering, my Windows PC uses a crossfire (2xPCIe16 slots) AMD motherboard but, I'm running a GTX460 in it.

Since I can't SLI on this board can I take the GT240 and use it for Physx?

Would it even be worthwhile to run Physx on this board? I ask because even though it has 2 PCIe slots one runs @ x16 mode and the other runs @ x4 mode.

 

[Zabojnik]

Guys, I'm looking for a new monitor to replace my old 20" Dell. I was searching for a nice 23" screen when I came across this Samsung BX2450 24" LED monitor. Would you recommend it? My budget is about 250€ and that's more or less what it costs. It's LED, fullHD, has 2 HDMI inputs, 2ms ... And looks quite nice, too. The stand's pretty basic, but that shouldn't be a problem.

What do you guys think? Btw, is every monitor with HDMI also HDCP enabled?

 

[MisterNoisy]

I want to repost this for the new page as maybe someone knows of good system fan control progs or bios settings. I'm going in there now to look for system fan control.

What sort of fan did you add? Was it a PWM-controlled (small 4-pin connector) fan or a standard case fan (small 3-pin connector)? The latter usually just run at full blast unless you undervolt them via a fan controller or a resistor.

Ideally, you'd use 2 PWM-controlled fans and a Y-cable like this one to connect both fans to your motherboard's CPU fan header. If you're looking to match the fan that came with your Hyper 212, I believe this is it.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

What sort of fan did you add? Was it a PWM-controlled (small 4-pin connector) fan or a standard case fan (small 3-pin connector)?

Ideally, you'd use 2 PWM-controlled fans and a Y-cable like this one to connect both fans to your motherboard's CPU fan header. If you're looking to match the fan that came with your Hyper 212, I believe this is it.

Fan is good. That splitter is what I need but like I said, my temps are down and I managed a slightly higher OC in turn. My CPU fan runs at 2000RPM and the case fan runs are 1500. I'm sure if they were both running in tandem I would be getting even better results right? Decisions, decisions.

Yes 3 pin btw, sorry for neglecting to mention that. I kind of jumped the gun, I know. I'm not getting hotter temps or anything though.

My peak that I've got so far is 4480mhz and load temps topping out at 66-67C

Scratch that, I'm not even hitting 67C anymore at these clocks.

 

[knitoe]

What sort of fan did you add? Was it a PWM-controlled (small 4-pin connector) fan or a standard case fan (small 3-pin connector)?

Ideally, you'd use 2 PWM-controlled fans and a Y-cable like this one to connect both fans to your motherboard's CPU fan header. If you're looking to match the fan that came with your Hyper 212, I believe this is it.

You don't want that PWN Y cable because it has 4 pin for both splits which will send 2 speed signals from 1 connector to the MB and confuse it. Get one with splits of 4 & 3 pin splits.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8001&cm_re=pwm_y_cable-_-12-718-001-_-Product

 

[LiquidMetal14]

You don't want that PWN Y cable because it has 4 pin for both splits which will send 2 speed signals from 1 connector to the MB and confuse it. Get one with splits of 4 & 3 pin splits.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8001&cm_re=pwm_y_cable-_-12-718-001-_-Product

So say I got the HYPERMASTER 4 pin fan and the Antec 3 pin system fan, that would work with that?

I essentially plug the 3 pin in one slot and the 4 pin in the other and they would work in harmony?

 

[MisterNoisy]

You don't want that PWN Y cable because it has 4 pin for both splits which will send 2 speed signals from 1 connector to the MB and confuse it. Get one with splits of 4 & 3 pin splits.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8001&cm_re=pwm_y_cable-_-12-718-001-_-Product

True - I didn't notice the ends of the one I linked. Good catch!

 

[knitoe]

So say I got the HYPERMASTER 4 pin fan and the Antec 3 pin system fan, that would work with that?

You should use the same fans. The 4 pin will be controlling variable speeds while 3 pin (still connect a 4 pin fan to it) will run same speed as the first.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

You should use the same fans. The 4 pin will be controlling variable speeds while 3 pin (still connect a 4 pin fan to it) will run same speed as the first.

I have the extra fan, I happen to have an extra HYPER 212 laying around. I have 2 4 pin connectors, that same cable you linked me will work?

Please pardon my ape like intelligence in this matter but I want to get it right.

 

[knitoe]

Ok so I get the extra fan, I happen to have an extra HYPER 212 laying around. I have 2 4 pin connectors, that same cable you linked me will work?

Yes. That's the cable I am using on 212+ for push/pull setup.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

WTF I edited out my original post lol

 

[knitoe]

Looks like I'm ordering that now then. Thanks.

THIS ONE? Just to be correct.

FML that also just means I blew 20 dollars BUT I got another case fan that I don't know what to do with lol

Correct. To install, just plug the 1 end of the cable into CPU fan connector on the MB and the 2 fans on 212+ onto the Y split.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Correct. To install, just plug the 1 end of the cable into CPU fan connector on the MB and the 2 fans on 212+ onto the Y split.

A couple more things. I am push pulling to the rear the case. This is the right way right?

 

[knitoe]

A couple more things. I am push pulling to the rear the case. This is the right way right?

Correct.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Correct.

Ok thanks for all the help. I will have it by Wednesday hopefully.

 

[Toki767]

Just installed my new GTX 560. I must say it's quite nice being able to play games on max settings with no stuttering.

 

[Stahsky]

Dang. After reapplying the thermal and moving a fan, I went to reboot the PC and it turned on and suddenly shut off and wouldn't turn back on. After unplugging everything and replugging the power, it booted again and was working just fine. I plugged everything back in and it still worked. When I woke up and booted it up again, it did it again.

If I screwed up the thermal (it's idling exactly where it was before, so there was no temp change) would that be causing this? And why is plugging off my external and such that has been working for over a year without fail suddenly be causing boot issues?

=(

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Dang. After reapplying the thermal and moving a fan, I went to reboot the PC and it turned on and suddenly shut off and wouldn't turn back on. After unplugging everything and replugging the power, it booted again and was working just fine. I plugged everything back in and it still worked. When I woke up and booted it up again, it did it again.

If I screwed up the thermal (it's idling exactly where it was before, so there was no temp change) would that be causing this? And why is plugging off my external and such that has been working for over a year without fail suddenly be causing boot issues?

=(

You try doing a windows startup repair with your disc?

Not necessarily the first option but I'm just throwing that out there.

 

[Stahsky]

It prompted a repair when it busted up and sat there for about 20 minutes then said it couldn't do anything. I upgraded to 7 with a digital download from that student sale thing a year or so ago. I'm not sure how I'd go about doing that to be honest.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

It prompted a repair when it busted up and sat there for about 20 minutes then said it couldn't do anything. I upgraded to 7 with a digital download from that student sale thing a year or so ago. I'm not sure how I'd go about doing that to be honest.

Did you try going into the bios and disabling any of the USB devices installed or registered from the boot sequence? I just had an issue today where I had to disable my Magic Jacjk (VOIP device) and something else that I can't remember the name of. I was getting an "eject media from disc or device" type error. I would enter and still be able to access OS but when I disabled everything but the HDD and CD/DVD drive, I didn't see that error again.

To clarify, you essentially tell the bios to only call the HDD and CD drive as boot devices.

 

[deim0s]

All current available Sandy Bridge MBs have defective Intel Sata controllers. The fixed / replacement MBs won't be available in mass qualities until around April.

Am holding off to buy a Sandy Bridge upgrade till then.

I am wondering if the mobo manufacturers would change model/poduct designations/revisions to know that you got the fixed part.

I got a feeling some local stores would still sell the defective parts till its too late for exchange.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Well, I've successfully implemented Nvidia SLI in a reasonably quiet gaming computer setup using just all-aircooling. I had a guy tell me before that you can't SLI some Fermis on air and expect decent noise and heat levels and that I would need to use watercooling or my cards would self-immolate. Well, I'm here to say that he was full of shit. With careful choices of components, you can absolutely have an all-aircooled machine and not have it sound like a jet engine. This completes a build I started in late September of last year. Adding the second GTX 470 for SLI was the final step to completion.

Core i7-950 "Bloomfield" @4.01ghz
Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
6GB G.Skill "Ripjaws" series DDR3-1600

2x Nvidia GeForce GTX 470 SLI @760/1520/1850
card 1: eVGA GTX 470 SC with Thermalright Shaman
card 2: MSI GTX 470 Twin Frozr II

2x WD Raptors 74GB in RAID0 (boot drives)
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB in RAID0 (games drives)

Corsair CMPSU-950TX 950W PSU
Cooler Master HAF 932
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D14
2x bottom fans: Noctua NF-P12
1x top fan: Noctua NF-S12
front and rear fans: included with case

And here's what I accomplished:

56C on the top card and 59C on the bottom card is pretty good for aircooling. :3

A special shout out goes to gaffer evil solrac v3.0, who mailed me the special extra-long SLI bridge connector I needed to make this build a reality! Thank you very much!!

 

[Hazaro]

lol 4 slot cooler.
You crack me up.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

lol 4 slot cooler.
You crack me up.

Hell yeah, I was able to fit the 2nd video card below it, so how many slots it takes up is immaterial compared to the cooling performance it offers! ^^

 

[Arkaerial]

If I seen that picture of the HAF 932 I would have passed on getting the HAF X.

 

[Zzoram]

razer blackwidow mechanical keyboard (cherry mx blue switches) is on sale for Canadians at Canada Computers for $69.99 (regular $79.99)

 

[MWS Natural]

What size monitors do most of you game on? I have been thinking of upgrading from my 23" Samsung to a 27" LG.

 

[antonz]

What size monitors do most of you game on? I have been thinking of upgrading from my 23" Samsung to a 27" LG.

32" LG

 

[MWS Natural]

32" LG

Hmm never thought about going with a TV. I was going to get this monitor.

I guess it would make more sense to go with thehttp://www.amazon.com/LG-32LD450-32-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B0039RRCJ8/ref=sr_1_3?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1298194242&sr=1-3
for basically the same price.

 

[antonz]

Hmm never thought about going with a TV. I was going to get this monitor.

I guess it would make more sense to go with thehttp://www.amazon.com/LG-32LD450-32-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B0039RRCJ8/ref=sr_1_3?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1298194242&sr=1-3
for basically the same price.

That is the exact model I have. Works great for me and since it is a TV can hook up something like the Wii along side the PC etc

 

[BigBlackGamer]

before I add a second 6970 I'm wondering will my 850HX power supply be enough? my CPU (i7) is overlocked to 3.8ghz. I've seen people say they run 6970's in crossfire with no problem with a 850 watt ps. I was thinking about going AX1200 to be safe. seems a bit overkill though.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

before I add a second 6970 I'm wondering will my 850HX power supply be enough? my CPU (i7) is overlocked to 3.8ghz. I've seen people say they run 6970's in crossfire with no problem with a 850 watt ps. I was thinking about going AX1200 to be safe. seems a bit overkill though.

You should be ok. My machine is pulling around 630W out of the wall when going full-tilt. I doubt a 6970 pulls more power than a Fermi v.1 GTX 470.

 

[n0n44m]

You should be ok. My machine is pulling around 630W out of the wall when going full-tilt. I doubt a 6970 pulls more power than a Fermi v.1 GTX 470.

how is the SLI working out in terms of performance increase?

I've seen some GTX480's on sale for €250 ... afraid if I'll don't get one now they'll no longer be sold soon (stocks already getting low everywhere)

 

[BigBlackGamer]

You should be ok. My machine is pulling around 630W out of the wall when going full-tilt. I doubt a 6970 pulls more power than a Fermi v.1 GTX 470.

I figured as much. thanks.

 

[Manp]

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo289/Un-known_Soldier/case_sli.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

an sli setup with 2 cards with different coolers... dude, it's like you knew my secret weak point :lol

:)

 

[Felix Lighter]

I've been considering a second monitor and I was hoping for a little guidance.

My current specs are:
i7 930 @3.9Ghz
Radeon 5850
6 GB of ram

1) It's my understanding using dual monitors shouldn't effect performance in games all that much. Is there any performance related issues I should be aware of?

2) I'd like to keep my budget for a second monitor to $400 or less. I'm looking for right around 23" and a 1920x1080 resolution. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

 

[teh_pwn]

before I add a second 6970 I'm wondering will my 850HX power supply be enough? my CPU (i7) is overlocked to 3.8ghz. I've seen people say they run 6970's in crossfire with no problem with a 850 watt ps. I was thinking about going AX1200 to be safe. seems a bit overkill though.

Should be fine, but the PSU will probably get noisier at a higher load.

 

[teh_pwn]

I'm going the crossfire route, so I need to pay attention to cooling design.

My case has the PSU at the bottom with an air duct. I want to make sure it can pull air properly with carpet. Do people get some sort of floor mat for this? Is it needed?

 

[Rufus]

1) It's my understanding using dual monitors shouldn't effect performance in games all that much.

Rendering double the amount of pixels doesn't affect performance all that much? Intuitively, that doesn't sound right at all. Maybe I'm overestimating the impact, but I'd expect more than a negligible hit... Especially if you run AA on top of that.

 

[Majeh]

hey guys, I wanted to ask what's the best mouse for around £30?

 

[iNvid02]

hey guys, I wanted to ask what's the best mouse for around £30?

logitech have some good mice in the £30-£40 range
http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/mice-pointers/mice

 

[rc213]

EEK, What happened to all the H67 boards on Newegg/Mwave? When should they be available again?

 

[ChoklitReign]

Why the hell is Newegg reducing the number of Athlon X4 CPUs while raising their prices? Low supply? Maybe I should upgrade to a Phenom X4 or even a Sandy Bridge.