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[luiztfc]

GPU-Z should tell you... not CPU-Z

Thanks (and now I feel dumb), but what about the bridges?

 

[Kyaw]

Both bridges should be connected.

 

[Absinthe]

Somebody HELP!

So I want to buy a Fractal R3 case. I also want my machine to be quiet and to have intelligent airflow:

Fractal r3 Cooling system details:
* Fan controller for 3 fans included
* 1 rear Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front 120mm fan (optional)
* 1 bottom 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 1 side panel 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 2 top 120mm/140mm fan (optional)

How many of these optional fans should I purchase?
Should I buy an extra fan controller?

Aruarian's correct, in the R3 by adding another fan you have to remove some of the sound deadening material.

I have a 6950/2500k setup and the only fan I hear is the stock CPU fan, which will be replaced with a 212+. That along with the two 120's are enough IMO to keep everything cool and quite.

 

[blanky]

Is a Noctua DH-14 serious overkill compared to a Hyper 212+, if you're not going to overclock too much but mostly want quietness and coolness?

 

[opticalmace]

Both bridges should be connected.

Actually only 1 crossfire bridge is needed.

 

[iNvid02]

Is a Noctua DH-14 serious overkill compared to a Hyper 212+, if you're not going to overclock too much but mostly want quietness and coolness?

i'd recommend it anyway, its so quiet but packs a massive punch

 

[scogoth]

Is a Noctua DH-14 serious overkill compared to a Hyper 212+, if you're not going to overclock too much but mostly want quietness and coolness?

Yes. NH-D14 is a great quiet cooler for big overclocks, not worth the money for not overclocking

 

[Shambles]

Is a Noctua DH-14 serious overkill compared to a Hyper 212+, if you're not going to overclock too much but mostly want quietness and coolness?

http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling/819568-review-noctua-nh-d14-vs-coolermaster.html#post10629173

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

SSD where have you been all my PC building life, your expensive though. Plural marriage(RAID), in the future, your ok with that and that makes me happy.

 

[mkenyon]

SSD where have you been all my PC building life, your expensive though. Plural marriage(RAID), in the future, your ok with that and that makes me happy.

If this is a question (hard to know for sure), check out the Vertex 3 for RAID. Most SSDs need TRIM active to elongate their life, but the Vertex 3 has that kind of functionality built into the firmware.

Is a Noctua DH-14 serious overkill compared to a Hyper 212+, if you're not going to overclock too much but mostly want quietness and coolness?

It's overkill based on how much you'll be spending. If that isn't a factor, by all means.

 

[blanky]

Well if i'm going all out than I might as well, thanks for the replies!

 

[Kyaw]

Actually only 1 crossfire bridge is needed.

Really?

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I have learnt many things from this thread.

 

[scogoth]

Really?

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I have learnt many things from this thread.

You only need 2 for 3 way crossfire.

 

[comrade]

Really?

themoreyouknow.gif

I have learnt many things from this thread.

Correct. The second bridge is for tri-fire.

http://itcrashed.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/trifire0.jpg

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Newegg finally restocked the Asus P8P67 Pro if anyone is looking for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

 

[black_vegeta]

Newegg finally restocked the Asus P8P67 Pro if anyone is looking for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

Baller's prayers have been answered. Awwww yeah boi!!!

 

[ithorien]

Newegg finally restocked the Asus P8P67 Pro if anyone is looking for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

Wondering if I should return the one I got at Frys and buy from Newegg just for their customer support. Frys will only allow for a 15 day return.

 

[black_vegeta]

Wondering if I should return the one I got at Frys and buy from Newegg just for their customer support. Frys will only allow for a 15 day return.

Which is a straight up a weak return policy. Fry's has one of the worst return policy's out there. Since Newegg has started to have the Pro's in stock, I'll buy it for them when I'm ready.

I mean, what happens if you're mobo for some reason goes dead o the 16th day? Screwed.

 

[momolicious]

Nobody answered my question a while back, but im trying to figure out if my WD Caviar black 1tb HD has a problem. The more i store on it, it starts getting slow and choppy, until all the files are wiped out. Without anything in the HD its fine.

 

[black_vegeta]

Nobody answered my question a while back, but im trying to figure out if my WD Caviar black 1tb HD has a problem. The more i store on it, it starts getting slow and choppy, until all the files are wiped out. Without anything in the HD its fine.

Sounds like you just need to buy a new HDD or RMA.

 

[Lime]

Nobody answered my question a while back, but im trying to figure out if my WD Caviar black 1tb HD has a problem. The more i store on it, it starts getting slow and choppy, until all the files are wiped out. Without anything in the HD its fine.

Try to run a defragementation on it?

 

[catapult37]

I've been looking at a C300 64GB for my boot drive. But I see that I could save $30 at the price of a little bit of performance with this 60GB OCZ Agility:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...461&cm_re=ocz_60gb_ssd-_-20-227-461-_-Product

It's only SATA II vs III for the Crucial. Do you guys think this is a decent tradeoff?

Edit: actually there is a $135 and $150 version of the 64GB c300 and I cannot for the life of me see a difference:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148357&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-357-_-Product ($134.99)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148361&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-361-_-Product ($149.99)

 

[vermadas]

I've been looking at a C300 64GB for my boot drive. But I see that I could save $30 at the price of a little bit of performance with this 60GB OCZ Agility:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...461&cm_re=ocz_60gb_ssd-_-20-227-461-_-Product

It's only SATA II vs III for the Crucial. Do you guys think this is a decent tradeoff?

Edit: actually there is a $135 and $150 version of the 64GB c300 and I cannot for the life of me see a difference:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148357&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-357-_-Product ($134.99)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148361&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-361-_-Product ($149.99)

It might be that the more expensive one comes with a data transfer cable. Also, Amazon has that same drive for $120:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YNX3TU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[f0rk]

Any comments on my build from the last page?
Didn't notice the card was out of stock, can get the Sapphire version from a different site for a little cheaper, will there be much difference? Might add a 212+ with the money saved.

 

[CrankyJay]

c300 128GB back on sale at NewEgg for $200 with promo code: EMCKFKJ22

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=EMCPB-042011-_-PB-_-Item-_-20-148-348

 

[Shambles]

Nobody answered my question a while back, but im trying to figure out if my WD Caviar black 1tb HD has a problem. The more i store on it, it starts getting slow and choppy, until all the files are wiped out. Without anything in the HD its fine.

Probably a bad drive but by using a program like HD Tune you can go through the SMART logs and see if the drive itself is reporting any errors.

 

[scogoth]

I've been looking at a C300 64GB for my boot drive. But I see that I could save $30 at the price of a little bit of performance with this 60GB OCZ Agility:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...461&cm_re=ocz_60gb_ssd-_-20-227-461-_-Product

It's only SATA II vs III for the Crucial. Do you guys think this is a decent tradeoff?

Edit: actually there is a $135 and $150 version of the 64GB c300 and I cannot for the life of me see a difference:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148357&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-357-_-Product ($134.99)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...148361&cm_re=c300_64gb-_-20-148-361-_-Product ($149.99)

Ones retail ones OEM with no accessories

 

[I3rand0]

I've got a 320 gb Raptor right now as my main drive in my pc. Would swapping it for a SSD boost performance or not make a difference?

 

[scogoth]

I've got a 320 gb Raptor right now as my main drive in my pc. Would swapping it for a SSD boost performance or not make a difference?

Yes noticeable difference.

 

[black_vegeta]

I've got a 320 gb Raptor right now as my main drive in my pc. Would swapping it for a SSD boost performance or not make a difference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoX2b7VlVPs

 

[scogoth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoX2b7VlVPs

That is one slow booting ssd. If I had to wait that long I'd never shut my comp off. Maybe win7 is just that much better then vista.

 

[TouchMyBox]

Correct. The second bridge is for tri-fire.

http://itcrashed.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/trifire0.jpg

I thought the sideport thingies were inactive after the 4xxx series?

 

[scogoth]

I thought the sideport thingies were inactive after the 4xxx series?

If by side port you mean crossfire port they are optional now but if you don't use them you increase traffic on the pci-e channels. You should use crossfire cables.

 

[CrankyJay]

Rebates from late Jan / early Feb are finally rolling in. Got $50 out of $70 so far.

 

[ithorien]

Which is a straight up a weak return policy. Fry's has one of the worst return policy's out there. Since Newegg has started to have the Pro's in stock, I'll buy it for them when I'm ready.

I mean, what happens if you're mobo for some reason goes dead o the 16th day? Screwed.

Yea, I ordered it from Newegg, return it to Frys tomorrow. Missed the damn rush window by 26 minutes though, so now I'll be waiting for the mobo... Stupid Frys tamper sticker.

 

[SilverLunar]

Newegg finally restocked the Asus P8P67 Pro if anyone is looking for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

FINALLY!! This darn mother-board was the only thing i couldn't order everywhere :[

Thanks alot Whats with the mediocre reviews though? all of it is mainly aimed at the customer service ?? hm

 

[black_vegeta]

FINALLY!! This darn mother-board was the only thing i couldn't order everywhere :[

Thanks alot Whats with the mediocre reviews though? all of it is mainly aimed at the customer service ?? hm

Appears to be aimed at their customer service. It's a solid board, just check the reviews and specs.

 

[scogoth]

FINALLY!! This darn mother-board was the only thing i couldn't order everywhere :[

Thanks alot Whats with the mediocre reviews though? all of it is mainly aimed at the customer service ?? hm

Seems to be not smart people. Who complains about a mobo when the mobo tray cutout on their case is not perfect?

 

[Smokey]

SHIT

JUST

GOT

REAL

All from Microcenter over lunch. I'm all in...there's no going back.

I'm ready

 

[scogoth]

SHIT

All from Microcenter over lunch. I'm all in...there's no going back.

I'm ready

So excited, until the last pic. I'm not a fan of pre built water coolers.

 

[momolicious]

It seems like everyone wants the Asus P8P67 Pro motherboard. Its kind of pricy at almost 200, what makes it such a good board for overclocking? Can't cheaper motherboards that fit the CPU do the same?

 

[scogoth]

It seems like everyone wants the Asus P8P67 Pro motherboard. Its kind of pricy at almost 200, what makes it such a good board for overclocking? Can't cheaper motherboards that fit the CPU do the same?

SLI support, Intel Gigbit LAN, 1 more esata connector and 1 more 16x sized PCIe slot.

This chart needs to be on every page it seems.

 

[Absinthe]

c300 128GB back on sale at NewEgg for $200 with promo code: EMCKFKJ22

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=EMCPB-042011-_-PB-_-Item-_-20-148-348

Thanks for this!

 

[scogoth]

Anyone know where to get a Fractal Arc Mini case in Canada?

 

[Hawk269]

Alright, well that's a good enough reason to go with the triple slot Asus over a GTX 590.

Now, in terms of cases...we have some options. You were going for a full tower, so I'll assume size isn't an issue. With 2x triple slot video cards, we'll just need to make sure that fits.

edit: actually, looking at the P8P67 pro, spacing shouldn't be an issue:

The second card would encroach a little bit over the IO ports at the left most of this picture, but shouldn't interfere with anything.

As for cases, I'll start off with a slightly more expensive and outlandish proposition. The Silverstone FT02:

(images from zc1 on HardForum)

You can get it with or without a window. It's a strange case because the motherboard is rotated to 90 degrees. Still, it's supposed to be one of the quietest and coolest cases on the market. It's a little pricey at around $250, however. It doesn't normally come with those blue LED lights, FYI.

Let me know how you feel about this case, whether the price is too much, whether you like the sleek aesthetics or not.

I just finished my build on Sunday and I have the ASUS MB pictured. I am running dual 580's. Based on the size of the cards, you wont get a 3rd card in there if you want 3xSLI. The 2nd card is really close to the black PCI slot...but going Tri anything by be overkill anyways.

As far as a case, I went with Antec's 1200. It is full tower, 3 intacke front fans with filters, 2 rear exhause fans, 1 very large exhause top fan, there is also a bracket on the back side of the HDD cage that can be moved up and down and add another fan. I have it positioned to blow cold air onto the 2 580's. The case also has space for a side fan as well. All fans have exterior dials or switches to increase speed as needed.

To me, it is pretty quiet, but most importanty is keeps everything nice and cool. My I7 on idle is about 24c, running prime for 2 hours or so I had cone core peak at 69c. Overall extremly happy with the Antec case.

 

[black_vegeta]

So excited, until the last pic. I'm not a fan of pre built water coolers.

I was going to buy this at first, but the thought of it leaking all over my cpu innards would have had me crying.

I'm probably going to go with the Noctua DH-14 or the CM Hyper 212+.

None the less, nice pickups Smokey. Are you building soon?

 

[scogoth]

I just finished my build on Sunday and I have the ASUS MB pictured. I am running dual 580's. Based on the size of the cards, you wont get a 3rd card in there if you want 3xSLI. The 2nd card is really close to the black PCI slot...but going Tri anything by be overkill anyways.

As far as a case, I went with Antec's 1200. It is full tower, 3 intacke front fans with filters, 2 rear exhause fans, 1 very large exhause top fan, there is also a bracket on the back side of the HDD cage that can be moved up and down and add another fan. I have it positioned to blow cold air onto the 2 580's. The case also has space for a side fan as well. All fans have exterior dials or switches to increase speed as needed.

To me, it is pretty quiet, but most importanty is keeps everything nice and cool. My I7 on idle is about 24c, running prime for 2 hours or so I had cone core peak at 69c. Overall extremly happy with the Antec case.

Can't really run 3-way SLI on that board anyways, you'd need a NF200 board for 3-way sli on a P67 chipset. Simply not enough PCI lanes to support it. Plus 3-way SLI scaling is pretty bad.

 

[Hawk269]

It seems like everyone wants the Asus P8P67 Pro motherboard. Its kind of pricy at almost 200, what makes it such a good board for overclocking? Can't cheaper motherboards that fit the CPU do the same?

Well it makes it a snap. For one, you have the new Bios system which is a graphical interface, point and click. Second, if you are a noob at OC, you can hit the TPU Switch to on and the board will overclock your processor. I have an I7 and it OC it to 4.5 with voltage tweak all on it's own. Basically, you hit the switch, turn it on, it starts to boot, applies the Oc, turns off then back on and it's done. 4.5 OC in a matter of minutes.

Ran under prime for over 2 hours and no issues, one core maxed out at 69c with a 212 cooler.

 

[scogoth]

Well it makes it a snap. For one, you have the new Bios system which is a graphical interface, point and click. Second, if you are a noob at OC, you can hit the TPU Switch to on and the board will overclock your processor. I have an I7 and it OC it to 4.5 with voltage tweak all on it's own. Basically, you hit the switch, turn it on, it starts to boot, applies the Oc, turns off then back on and it's done. 4.5 OC in a matter of minutes.

Ran under prime for over 2 hours and no issues, one core maxed out at 69c with a 212 cooler.

Regular P8P67 does that was well.

 

[Hawk269]

Can't really run 3-way SLI on that board anyways, you'd need a NF200 board for 3-way sli on a P67 chipset. Simply not enough PCI lanes to support it. Plus 3-way SLI scaling is pretty bad.

Yeah, it is funny that they advertise the board being able to SLI 4-Way though. Which is odd given there are only 3 slots and I guess if you are using smaller cards you could, but not sure.