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Smokey

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scogoth said:
So excited, until the last pic. I'm not a fan of pre built water coolers.
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Honestly the H70 was an impulse buy. I had the 212 PLUS but then I grabbed the H70. I may or may not keep it, we'll see.

black_vegeta said:
I was going to buy this at first, but the thought of it leaking all over my cpu innards would have had me crying.

I'm probably going to go with the Noctua DH-14 or the CM Hyper 212+.

None the less, nice pickups Smokey. Are you building soon?
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I'm hoping to by the middle/end of may, maybe sooner depending on how aggressive I feel like being with cash. Feels good to have bought SOMETHING though. I've been talking about this shit since summer of 2010.

About to order the Silverstone FT02 Exodus recommended earlier, RAM, and PSU. Saving GPU for last.

This will be my first build and just saying it now...I am going to be in this thread like crazy. I'm already sort of nervous just thinking about it lol
 
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scogoth

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Hawk269 said:
Yeah, it is funny that they advertise the board being able to SLI 4-Way though. Which is odd given there are only 3 slots and I guess if you are using smaller cards you could, but not sure.
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Only way would be with 2 GTX590s or 6990s.
 
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Hawk269

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Smokey said:
Honestly the H70 was an impulse buy. I had the 212 PLUS but then I grabbed the H70. I may or may not keep it, we'll see.



I'm hoping to by the middle/end of may, maybe sooner depending on how aggressive I feel like being with cash. Feels good to have bought SOMETHING though. I've been talking about this shit since summer of 2010.

About to order the Silverstone FT02 Exodus recommended earlier, RAM, and PSU. Saving GPU for last.

This will be my first build and just saying it now...I am going to be in this thread like crazy. I'm already sort of nervous just thinking about it lol
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Smokey, I just built my first ever rig this Sunday it was a breeze. My biggest challeng/fear was putting in the CPU and applying thermal paste. Not sure why it was so nerve racking. I also have the 212+ cooler and that was very easy to put on...but yeah for me it was the cpu and applyng the paste...outside of that a breeze.

A good video to watch is the one on the first page of this thread, the long one. They build a rig using almost the same parts you have. I watched this first since I never built one and it made it look so easy and it was. they used a stock cooler that alread had paste on it, but once you are comfortable on how much to use you should be good.
 
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black_vegeta

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Smokey said:
Honestly the H70 was an impulse buy. I had the 212 PLUS but then I grabbed the H70. I may or may not keep it, we'll see.



I'm hoping to by the middle/end of may, maybe sooner depending on how aggressive I feel like being with cash. Feels good to have bought SOMETHING though. I've been talking about this shit since summer of 2010.

About to order the Silverstone FT02 Exodus recommended earlier, RAM, and PSU. Saving GPU for last.

This will be my first build and just saying it now...I am going to be in this thread like crazy. I'm already sort of nervous just thinking about it lol
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Nice, this will be my first build as well. I can't wait until I get all the parts in.
 
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scogoth said:
Only way would be with 2 GTX590s or 6990s.
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lol...totally forgot about those cards...even though I almost did get a 590, yeah it would work easy with that set up..that is how they get the 4way sli then. I do wish it had a little more room so I could add a dedicated physics card, but I think I am good with my dual-580's.
 
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CrankyJay

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Smokey said:
Is there THAT big of a difference between the Vertex 2 and 3?

That $200 c300 is calling me...
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A cursory glance shows that Vertex 3 is almost twice as fast as the Vertex 2 in optimal conditions.

A 128 V3 will also cost you $300.

I also probably wouldn't want to be an early adopter in case the thing has troubles. At least with the c300 it has been out awhile and seems to be pretty reliable/highly rated.
 
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Smokey

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black_vegeta said:
Nice, this will be my first build as well. I can't wait until I get all the parts in.
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What's your rig gonna look like?

Glad some others are doing this for the first time as well. I remember vividly Amirox's experience with building his PC. His ordeal is what I worry about the most. I'm sure I'll be straight though I work in IT for ffs


CrankyJay said:
A cursory glance shows that Vertex 3 is almost twice as fast as the Vertex 2 in optimal conditions.

A 128 V3 will also cost you $300.

I also probably wouldn't want to be an early adopter in case the thing has troubles. At least with the c300 it has been out awhile and seems to be pretty reliable/highly rated.
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Yeah I've got the V3 in my newegg list as of now, was just waiting for them to come in. 2X as fast though is pretty sweet though. So is that $200 tag on the c300 :p


TheExodu5 said:
If you're just using it as an OS drive, the Vertex 3 won't be that much faster. The benefit of using it comes from its very high sequential speeds, which will lead to much faster loading of large data items on the drive (in my case, games). It's not really worth the extra expense for most people.
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Are you looking at the 128 V3 or 256?
 
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TheExodu5

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If you're just using it as an OS drive, the Vertex 3 won't be that much faster. The benefit of using it comes from its very high sequential speeds, which will lead to much faster loading of large data items on the drive (in my case, games). It's not really worth the extra expense for most people.
 
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mkenyon

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blanky said:
Well the Vertex 3 is SATA III and new Sandforce controller,

Take a look here, but its a preview of the final version. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4186/ocz-vertex-3-preview-the-first-client-focused-sf2200
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SATAIII isn't huge, it's just transfer rates. Not likely that you can transfer to a drive that has capabilities of writing faster than 3.0GB/S, nor will your SSD be able to gather enough data fast enough to max out 3.0GB/S. On the enterprise class drives, yes. Consumer grade, not so much.
 
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scogoth

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TheExodu5 said:
If you're just using it as an OS drive, the Vertex 3 won't be that much faster. The benefit of using it comes from its very high sequential speeds, which will lead to much faster loading of large data items on the drive (in my case, games). It's not really worth the extra expense for most people.
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If your build includes 2 580s I think a vertex 3 is justified. Not that much more when you have over $1000 in GPUs
 
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kinggroin

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Just a heads up. The following PC is for sale (I'm selling this for a buddy who has more money than sense it seems). It originally had a second 580 in it, but YuriLowell already snagged it:

> Core I7 930
> 2x EVGA GTX 580
> EVGA Classified 3 (mobo 1)
> EVGA X58 3X SLI Classified (mobo 2)
> Thermalright Venomous X RT
> Corsair Obsidian 700D case
> Silverstone Raven 2 case version 1 with version 2 fans
> 6GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000 RAM
> Plextor Sata Blu-Ray Player
> Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Edition
> 2x Sata 3 Western Digital Caviar Black
> 2x OCZ Vertex 2 Turbo 60Gb SSD
> Logitech G-19 Gaming Keyboard
> Enermax Evo Galaxy 1250W PSU


He's willing to part it out, but would prefer to sell it together for a good amount off. Pretty nice rig for anyone who doesn't want to bother doing the research for a fairly high end setup.

PM me with any offers guys! Thanks. Oh, and if you decide to offer on the whole PC, let me know which motherboard and case of the two you prefer.
 
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TheExodu5

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^wow. Why on earth is he selling that? That will probably fetch almost $2000 used, I would imagine.

scogoth said:
If your build includes 2 580s I think a vertex 3 is justified. Not that much more when you have over $1000 in GPUs
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Heh yeah. I'm impatient, and my 80GB Intel is feeling small, so I'm grabbing a 240GB Vertex 3 as soon as they're available.
 
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blanky

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@Smokey: I'm also going to build for the first time soon, keeping a real close eye on this thread for news and tips. Hope your build goes smooth!

mkenyon said:
SATAIII isn't huge, it's just transfer rates. Not likely that you can transfer to a drive that has capabilities of writing faster than 3.0GB/S, nor will your SSD be able to gather enough data fast enough to max out 3.0GB/S. On the enterprise class drives, yes. Consumer grade, not so much.
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So the new Sata 6Gb/s ports aren't that vital for consumers yet? Just quicker loading like TheExodu5 said and otherwise about the same if a bit faster.
 
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scogoth

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TheExodu5 said:
Heh yeah. I'm impatient, and my 80GB Intel is feeling small, so I'm grabbing a 240GB Vertex 3 as soon as they're available.
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Sooooo thats like a 580 in itself. Damn to have that build.......

blanky said:
@Smokey: I'm also going to build for the first time soon, keeping a real close eye on this thread for news and tips. Hope your build goes smooth!

So the new Sata 6Gb/s ports aren't that vital for consumers yet? Just quicker loading like TheExodu5 said and otherwise about the same if a bit faster.
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Depends, I know for myself it feels damn good to have the very best. Sometimes its nice to get the latest tech no matter how ridiculous it is.
 
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black_vegeta

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Smokey said:
What's your rig gonna look like?

Glad some others are doing this for the first time as well. I remember vividly Amirox's experience with building his PC. His ordeal is what I worry about the most. I'm sure I'll be straight though I work in IT for ffs
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I have in my possesion:
i7 2600k
G.SKill Ripjaws X 8GB RAM
2x Smasung Spinpoint F3 HDD's

What I'm planning to get:
ASUS p8p67 Pro
Corsair 650d case or Lian Li Lancool PC-K62 case
Corsair ax850 PSU (Modular)
EVGA GTX 580
SSD (Don't know what brand yet, but will use it for OS)
Noctua DH-14 or Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Windows 7 Home OEM

I still have alot of items to get. I should be ordering my case and CPU cooler within the next 2 weeks. I'm saving the mobo and GPU for last just in case there is a problem.
 
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kinggroin

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TheExodu5 said:
^wow. Why on earth is he selling that?



Heh yeah. I'm impatient, and my 80GB Intel is feeling small, so I'm grabbing a 240GB Vertex 3 as soon as they're available.
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*shrugs

It's not the first time he's done it either. He goes through phases throughout the year where he's really into PC gaming, then after a while of playing whatever was the hot game for that period, he sells everything; only to do it again the following year.


black_vegeta said:
I have in my possesion:
i7 2600k
G.SKill Ripjaws X 8GB RAM
2x Smasung Spinpoint F3 HDD's

What I'm planning to get:
ASUS p8p67 Pro
Corsair 650d case or Lian Li Lancool PC-K62 case
Corsair ax850 PSU (Modular)
EVGA GTX 580
SSD (Don't know what brand yet, but will use it for OS)
Noctua DH-14 or Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Windows 7 Home OEM

I have lots to get still. I should be ordering my case and CPU cooler within the next 2 weeks. I'm saving the mobo and GPU for last just in case there is a problem.
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I can save you a bit of cash on that evga 580 (not to mention you'll have a lifetime warranty). Just saying...
 
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scogoth

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kinggroin said:
*shrugs

It's not the first time he's done it either. He goes through phases throughout the year where he's really into PC gaming, then after a while of playing whatever was the hot game for that period, he sells everything; only to do it again the following year.
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So why don't you buy it off him, thats a sick rig.
 
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kinggroin

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scogoth said:
So why don't you buy it off him, thats a sick rig.
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My rig:

PIIx4 at 4ghz
5970
8GB DDR3


I'm fine honestly. However, this is a good opportunity for you guys in here looking to buy and save a bit. I can get him to be quite flexible on the price for most of the components or the whole rig itself.
 
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TheExodu5

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blanky said:
So the new Sata 6Gb/s ports aren't that vital for consumers yet? Just quicker loading like TheExodu5 said and otherwise about the same if a bit faster.
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Well the only thing that will max them out is sequential transfers. The Vertex 3 is already almost maxing out the port on its own, at 550MB/s max theoretical transfer rates.

Random 4K transfers are still closer to 50-200MB/s (~200MB/s under the most ideal conditions with a Vertex 3), so not maxing out the 3Gb/s port yet.

I don't think we're going to see much higher random transfer speeds any time soon. SSDs rely on large parallel data writes/reads to make up most of their speed, and that is only achievable with many queued requests or large sequential transfers. That's why, if you'll notice, the Vertex 3's QD= 0 (queue depth 0) random read speeds are not that fast...in fact, they're a tiny bit slower than the Intel G2.
 
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Smokey

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black_vegeta said:
I have in my possesion:
i7 2600k
G.SKill Ripjaws X 8GB RAM
2x Smasung Spinpoint F3 HDD's

What I'm planning to get:
ASUS p8p67 Pro
Corsair 650d case or Lian Li Lancool PC-K62 case
Corsair ax850 PSU (Modular)
EVGA GTX 580
SSD (Don't know what brand yet, but will use it for OS)
Noctua DH-14 or Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Windows 7 Home OEM

I still have alot of items to get. I should be ordering my case and CPU cooler within the next 2 weeks. I'm saving the mobo and GPU for last just in case there is a problem.
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Piece by piece just about the same as my build. Only difference is the case, and the addition of 1 more HDD. You know what monitor you're going for yet?


scogoth said:
Depends, I know for myself it feels damn good to have the very best. Sometimes its nice to get the latest tech no matter how ridiculous it is.
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This is how I feel.

Also: I haven't played a PC game since BF1942. :O
I've also only used Steam once...for Counterstrike on my laptop lol
 
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TheExodu5

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Smokey said:
About to order the Silverstone FT02 Exodus recommended earlier, RAM, and PSU. Saving GPU for last.
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Nice! I kind of wish I would have went with the FT02 over my HAF X. I was all against the rotated motherboard and window on the wrong side...but I've changed my tune at this point. The better airflow + much quieter case would have been worth it in the end.
 
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blanky

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@scogoth: I agree, if you can why not? I know i'm probably going to get the Vertex 3 just don't know the size yet.

TheExodu5 said:
Well the only thing that will max them out is sequential transfers. The Vertex 3 is already almost maxing out the port on its own, at 550MB/s max theoretical transfer rates.

Random 4K transfers are still closer to 50-200MB/s (~200MB/s under the most ideal conditions with a Vertex 3), so not maxing out the 3Gb/s port yet.

I don't think we're going to see much higher random transfer speeds any time soon. SSDs rely on large parallel data writes/reads to make up most of their speed, and that is only achievable with many queued requests or large sequential transfers. That's why, if you'll notice, the Vertex 3's QD= 0 (queue depth 0) random read speeds are not that fast...in fact, they're a tiny bit slower than the Intel G2.
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Aren't you worried about the reliability of the drive though? It seems like Intel is the only one who has really got a tight QA control.
 
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TheExodu5

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blanky said:
Aren't you worried about the reliability of the drive though? It seems like Intel is the only one who has really got a tight QA control.
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No, not really.

From the stats we got, Intel was at around 0.5% RMA, and OCZ was at 2.5%. Not nearly as good as Intel, but within a good range for electronic hardware.

I did want to go Intel, but the performance of the Vertex 3 is just too high to ignore. I'm getting a very large drive, so I will be greatly benefiting from high sequential speeds.
 
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TheExodu5

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Smokey said:
Looking at the FT02 and was about to order but....it's a mid size case not a full tower? Will it get cramped with my build?
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It's one of the mid towers that are basically full towers, like the Corsair 650D. (you could look at that 650D as well, btw)

corsair_obsidian_650d.jpg

corsair_obsidian_650d_2.jpg
 
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Smokey

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meh...sharp knees

on the ft02..what about SLI 580s..specifically the asus model? I'm getting one to start, just thinking down the line if I ever wanted to.

edit: looks like amazon has it for $10 cheaper and is eligible for Amazon Prime. Will get it from there.
 
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IceIpor

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I don't know if this has been mentioned on this forum yet...
but the rumour that the 6950 1 GB version couldn't be shader unlocked has been debunked at techpowerup.

So for those who are looking to save a some money on a video card, the 1 GB version of the 6950 just got a lot more attractive. (Not to mention it performs almost exactly the same as the 2 GB version under most resolutions.)
 
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pje122

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Just wondering... how good of a deal is this (or is it not at all...?)?
Slickdeals said:
HP has their HP Pavilion Elite HPE-510t Desktop on sale for $900 - $200 code DT1314 = $700 with free shipping. Thanks persian_mafia

Specs
Intel Core i7-2600 Quad-Core
6GB DDR3
1TB RAID 0 (2 x 500GB SATA HDDs)
1GB NVIDIA GeForce 405 w/ HDMI
LightScribe DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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Coldsnap

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so my final setup:

Motherboard - ASUS P8H67-M LX
Video card - ASUS ENGTX460
Core - Intel Core i5-2500
Ram - CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Power - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black
Case - R3

= like $800


Can't wait to get it
 
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TheExodu5

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Smokey said:
meh...sharp knees

on the ft02..what about SLI 580s..specifically the asus model? I'm getting one to start, just thinking down the line if I ever wanted to.

edit: looks like amazon has it for $10 cheaper and is eligible for Amazon Prime. Will get it from there.
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I was looking at it, and I'm pretty sure it'll be fine.

P8P67-PRO_2D_H_x.jpg


The Asus card basically take up around 2.5 slots from what I've read. The last PCI-E slot there is 3 away from the end of the motherboard, so you should be fine.
 
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irishcow

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So I've been planning my new computer build in my head and had been pretty set on the Silverstone Raven 02 for a case. From reviews it seems really quiet with good airflow. How does that 650D compare to it? I'm more interested in a quiet pc than anything. I will be overclocking a 2500k along with a Noctua DH-14.
 
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TheExodu5

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irishcow said:
So I've been planning my new computer build in my head and had been pretty set on the Silverstone Raven 02 for a case. From reviews it seems really quiet with good airflow. How does that 650D compare to it? I'm more interested in a quiet pc than anything. I will be overclocking a 2500k along with a Noctua DH-14.
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The 650D should be good with proper fan control, since it does have 2x 200MM fans. Still, the RV02/FT02 are basically the quietest high performance cases out there.
 
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mike23

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What sort of power supply specs should I look for if I want my server to hold 8 or so sata 3 hard drives?

edit: Assuming on board graphics and an Athlon II x2
 
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BloodySinner said:
I don't think I'll ever understand the fascination with windowed side panels.
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For me, it's a combination of liking the look of heatsink fins, fans, PCBs and clean cabling and the like and also being able to see when I need to open the case up and blow the dust out, so I like windows and interior lighting.
 
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black_vegeta

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Smokey said:
Piece by piece just about the same as my build. Only difference is the case, and the addition of 1 more HDD. You know what monitor you're going for yet?
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I don't know yet. I'm thinking LED, probably between a 20" - 24"


TheExodu5 said:
Some people like to show off their PC building craftsmanship.
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This.
 
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Fixed2BeBroken

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Can anyone help? I just finished building my comp....and the bios in my mobo says my cpu is running at 45 c but when i downloaded coretemp....it says my stuff is running at 23 to 30c....is my bios wrong?
 
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