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Omiee said:
That would be my recommendation. I'm not sure about 4-pin fans though. I didn't really have any luck finding any. I just got 2x Thermalright 800RPM fans, which are equivalent to the Scythe S-Flex and Kamaflow that are often recommended (spec for spec the exact same thing, so I assume they're the same fans).
TheExodu5 said:
And they are quite for you, can you actually hear them when your system is idle, i mean browsing internet and watching movie.
If yes, than im just going to get 2 800rpm fans.
Im actually surprised by the hyper, i was thinking it might go to the 60's maybe 70's but 56 was the max temp it had.
I might spend 5 euro on one of those special cooling tubes,
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
i saw a review of somebody who got his temps 5 degrees lower because off one of those tubes.
http://www.thermalright.com/products/index.php?act=data&cat_id=16&id=97
Would these work, it has a 4 pin switch and it thermalright like you'rs
max rpm of 1300, i could also control it with my fan controller if needed.
I only need connectors for 140mm fans i guess.
Even better i can just use the 120mm fan connectors or what ever you call them, they gave you with the hyper
wandering goat
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I'm not an expert on fans (especially PWM fans), but for quiet 3-pins, I have both Scythe S-Flex and Noctua P12, and they're both decent. The Noctua's more expensive and is the quietest, but Scythe's not far behind in noise and gives a tad more cooling IMO.
And because you asked about noise levels, I find that in my quiet case, I can't hear my P12 at 600 rpm, but can definitely hear it 900 rpm (though it's pretty faint), and there's a definite whooshing noise at 1200 rpm. However, all you really hear is air being pushed, not fan motor noise. And at all levels, they will be far quieter than the stock fan at load.
Kurashima said:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/255702/fractal-design-silent-series-140mm-fan-140mm.html#tab:info
its max 800rpm and they say its 12db, should i trust it?
scogoth said:
yeah i edited my post after i found out that they have 120mm support.
And i watched a video on youtube off the sound and they are realy quit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p7a4wxkCE0
i think im getting them and just running both on 800rpm with my fan controller.
wandering goat
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Omiee said:
To be honest (here comes a rant), I find relying on either db ratings or reviews to be total crapshoots. If you ever compare dB ratings between products you own, you'll probably see how meaningless they really are, probably because of differences in how companies/reviewers measure them, because they're "best-case" scenarios, or because people's tolerance for different kinds of sound are all different. Same in reviews, some people call things "silent" when they would be far and beyond louder than everything in my system.
Really, the best thing to do (beyond trying them out yourself!) is to base your decisions on what tons of people are saying (especially more hardcore quiet-pc enthusiasts like the people at silentpcreview.com) and hope for the best. For what it's worth, I've heard that the Fractal fans are pretty quiet, and most fans at 800rpm would be, and claiming a 12db rating IS pretty damned low, as most things marketed at a quiet level are said to be around 18-19 db. You'll want to see if the particular 140mm fan will fit the 212+ though, as it was designed for 120mm fans.
[edit]Thermalrights should be pretty good too. I think that's the fan that's on their Shaman GPU cooler, which I've heard good things about.
scogoth said:
Well i can def hear my fan, and according to hwmonitor its at 800rpm at idle.
my pc next to me on my desk though lol. I can def hear the fan blowing.
ok nvm im an idiot, its the videocards that are making the sound, i have 2 6950's
i opened the case and put my hand on the fan to stop it and i could still hear the sound that was irritating me, so its coming from the lower part of the case so either the 2 videocards or its the powersupply, but i doubt the powersupply would make a noise that is higher than 20 db or something.
i guess i have to put my case under my desk
Pandoracell said:
Hmm this is weird, could you please check your cpuusage aswell? I haven't done that myself but I reckon you could open the taskmanager, play the game for a couple of minutes and then check the graph to see if your cpu is stressed a lot.
The reason I think this is weird is that JC2 is not only a demanding game but also quite gpu intensive ( like most other games in general ) so if anything a gtx 460 should be around 90-100% most of the time at the settings you mentioned.
One last thing, when you did your reformat and all that did you reroll to a set of older drivers? Or did you go for the 270 beta again?
edit : I have a faint memory of you already trying this but did you lower all the settings to see if you're somehow being bottlenecked by your cpu?
Pandoracell said:
Triple buffering won't magically make fps higher, only provide the steady gpu performance of double buffering without the downfalls of vsync, which increases response time and therefore input lag and therefore Exodu5's tag. Basically you don't have the performance hit caused by render ahead limits, the tearing of double buffering, or the response time increase of vsync but the benefits of everything.
Onto the GPU usage, this is just a theory but if you're staring at a building there is little geometry to be processed which would limit the GPU usage. Z-culling is a GPU method to limit rendering to only objects visible by the camera saving your GPU from rendering things not on screen. So if all you are doing is staring at a relatively simple object like a building the GPU would have low usage.
I have just cause 2 and I'll fire it up and do some testing on my 470s to see if I get a similar problem.
Edit: Read up on you're previous posts and sounds like vsync is forced on or something else causing that frame lock. So recap is bad performance (or seemingly bad) as its either 60fps/30fps, you reinstalled everything, tried different drivers, tried d3doverider still seeing bad performance.
I always check my Just cause 2 and GPU usage fluctuates from 60-100% on both my GPUs but everything setting maxed except ssao and always +60fps.
Friend had an issue with 5770 where it would frame lock to 60/45/30fps and ending up reinstalling the drivers a few times till it got back to normal but we never got to the root of the problem.
Really wish I could help you other then say check driver settings to see if vsync is on by default. What ever happened with that monitor driver that showed up for you?
one last question before i stop, and just contribute to this thread. Because the urge to update keeps growing for me. Iv only been a pc gamer for 2 years now but i have already upgraded 2 times.
Anyhow, how much difference will i see in games, watching movies and mutlitasking.
By going from kingston 1333 ddr3 4gb to a 8gb of this:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/271292/corsair-vengeance-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9.html#tab:info
Anyhow, how much difference will i see in games, watching movies and mutlitasking.
By going from kingston 1333 ddr3 4gb to a 8gb of this:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/271292/corsair-vengeance-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9.html#tab:info
I don't think there's a game that even uses 3gb so none under gaming as well. Unless you're one of those "but I just have to be able to photoshop/watch videos/keep 60 tabs of internet open while I play games!" people. Ram is pretty cheap right now though so there's it's not a big deal to get 8gb.
I think tomshardware or another site did a test where they compared 2gb vs 4gb vs 8gb of ram and the results sure surprised me.
More often than not, 2gb and 8gb game you the "same" performance ingame ( barring loading times ) which I was not expecting.
More often than not, 2gb and 8gb game you the "same" performance ingame ( barring loading times ) which I was not expecting.
Omiee said:
I found this one which is a newer version of the same article I believe :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,2778-8.html
Azwethinkweiz
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So after some tweaking yesterday, I think I've finally settled on this. Ran AIDA64 all night @4.7GHz with these settings. This morning bumped it to 4.8GHz and I'm gonna run it all day. Hopefully all will go well and then I can try to drop the voltage down a bit.
Fulleffect said:
current plan unless anyone has any changes for me, going to go with an x25 120gb, but they're out of stock atm
The HAF 922 is a good case, VERY easy to work in, but I would not want one myself. There is a massive vent on the top of the case that is meant for a large fan, and if you're not going to put one in, you're going to hear EVERYTHING inside that case. It is not quiet in the slightest.
That said, I loved building a PC with it. Cable management is supremely easy, you will have a very nice looking build when you're done with minimal effort. Still, it's noisy.
scogoth said:
Thanks. Something is definitely not fine though. I didn't want to mess with that last night so I decided to play some Crysis 2 for a bit to see how long it would run. About 25 minutes or so before hard restarting. It didn't blue screen though.
Same thing just happened this morning, almost immediately when I started the Prime95 test.
Wondering if someone could help me with this problem I've been having.
It might be the same as eznark's above but I'm not too sure. I put together the $600 build from the OP and it worked fine for about three weeks. But for about the past two weeks it's been randomly restarting. Sometimes it happens when I plug something into a USB port or plug in some headphones, when I'm surfing the web or playing a game, sometimes it does it when it's just sitting there. Sometimes it gets stuck/freezes as soon as I turn it on. When this happens I either have to unplug the DVI cord or all the USB devices to get it to actually boot up or if that doesn't work, the only thing I can do is turn it off from the back.
Any ideas as to what the problem may be or what I can do to narrow it down and figure it out?
It might be the same as eznark's above but I'm not too sure. I put together the $600 build from the OP and it worked fine for about three weeks. But for about the past two weeks it's been randomly restarting. Sometimes it happens when I plug something into a USB port or plug in some headphones, when I'm surfing the web or playing a game, sometimes it does it when it's just sitting there. Sometimes it gets stuck/freezes as soon as I turn it on. When this happens I either have to unplug the DVI cord or all the USB devices to get it to actually boot up or if that doesn't work, the only thing I can do is turn it off from the back.
Any ideas as to what the problem may be or what I can do to narrow it down and figure it out?
Outdoor Miner
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Wrapped up my friend's build. Got his 2500k to 4.0 GHz stable at 1.20v with stock cooling (70c load). Do you think he has a good chip, or is that about average for overclocking potential? A real shame he wanted to go cheap on the cooler. I am left wondering just how far I could have taken it.
Overclocking is ridiculously easy now with Sandy Bridge. No reason why anyone shouldn't try it, even with stock coolers.
Overclocking is ridiculously easy now with Sandy Bridge. No reason why anyone shouldn't try it, even with stock coolers.
black_vegeta
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This is the type of stuff I fear when I finish my build. Just part of the process.
Outdoor Miner said:
I'd say it's hard to tell. It'd be a gamble to say "it's a good chip" and have him spring for a better fan in hopes of overclock.
When you say cheap though, what's cheap? My 2500k runs 4.4 (I think 1.325v) with the 212+, 68C at full load (Prime), and that cooler is 30 dollars.
Newegg sale today.
Basically 10% off of Samsung HDTVs, all SSDs, all memory, Samsung monitors, Corsair PSUs, CPU Heatsinks, and NZXT cases.
Basically 10% off of Samsung HDTVs, all SSDs, all memory, Samsung monitors, Corsair PSUs, CPU Heatsinks, and NZXT cases.
PhiLonius said:
Go into device manager make sure all drivers are present and correct, dl hwmonitor, prime95 and memtest. Run memtest to eliminate memory problems. Then run prime95 under stress test mode while having hwmonitor open and track the CPU temps.
eznark said:
Are you running an oc? If your voltage isn't stable and your ocing your cpu your system can randomly restart like that.
What is the difference between the blue modular inputs and the black modular inputs on the Corsair HX850? Is there one?
I'm kind of going back over everything to see where I made assumptions that perhaps I shouldn't have. I've changed the sata inputs to be using all the 6gb/s slots and now I am looking at how the PSU is set up and realize I did it all willy nilly basically.
I'm kind of going back over everything to see where I made assumptions that perhaps I shouldn't have. I've changed the sata inputs to be using all the 6gb/s slots and now I am looking at how the PSU is set up and realize I did it all willy nilly basically.
Do you by any chance remember the error text on the blue screen? If it's something like "IRQ LESS THAN EQUAL", then I'm pretty positive it's the CPU.
What happens with a blue screen is that some data is getting corrupted somewhere down the line, either in memory or in the CPU, and when it comes back to the CPU, the CPU can't make sense of it and doesn't know what to do with it. The result is a blue screen.
What happens with a blue screen is that some data is getting corrupted somewhere down the line, either in memory or in the CPU, and when it comes back to the CPU, the CPU can't make sense of it and doesn't know what to do with it. The result is a blue screen.
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ithorien said:
Cheap as in he didn't want to spend another cent on cooling.
The 212 is the one I pointed out to him and he said if I could get to 4.0 on stock to just do that. Oh well at least he can switch it out in the future once he has a bit more cash and take it to 4.5 or beyond.
black_vegeta
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mkenyon said:
Too bad more of a discount wasn't offered from NewEgg. The AX850 is $182.00 on Amazon. NewEgg $184.00 after discount.
Amazon bought!
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