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I asked this question a few weeks ago and got no answers but it's fine 
I am taking a 12 hour car trip up to college in a few months and I want to bring my gaming rig up with me. I don't really want to take the whole thing apart again, would I be ok just taking out the graphics card? Since that seems like the loosest component and therefore the most likely to brake. Would I be ok simply cushioning my computer or should I do something else?
I just don't want to get it set up in my dorm and find out I broke it somehow :/
Thanks!
I am taking a 12 hour car trip up to college in a few months and I want to bring my gaming rig up with me. I don't really want to take the whole thing apart again, would I be ok just taking out the graphics card? Since that seems like the loosest component and therefore the most likely to brake. Would I be ok simply cushioning my computer or should I do something else?
I just don't want to get it set up in my dorm and find out I broke it somehow :/
Thanks!
Take out the video card, addon cards and CPU cooler if it's one of those big ones. Make sure any moviable parts and wires are taped/tied down. Personally, I wouldn't put stuff inside the case for cushion. And, most importantly, handle the case with care when moving it around.ZZMitch said:I asked this question a few weeks ago and got no answers but it's fine
I am taking a 12 hour car trip up to college in a few months and I want to bring my gaming rig up with me. I don't really want to take the whole thing apart again, would I be ok just taking out the graphics card? Since that seems like the loosest component and therefore the most likely to brake. Would I be ok simply cushioning my computer or should I do something else?
I just don't want to get it set up in my dorm and find out I broke it somehow :/
Thanks!
RumblingRosco
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ZZMitch said:Ooh yeah CPU cooler, I forgot about that, thanks. I didn't really mean cushioning the insides, I meant surrounding it will pillows or something
Pillows and soft blankets around the case would be a good idea. Also be sure to remove any CD/DVDs/Blurays from the optical drive.
I would just wait, if all you want to play is BF3. If BF3 is anything like BF2, it will be a system hog so you may as well wait until it's closer to release, and see how people running the beta fare with current hardware. Assuming the beta is still on, it should be this summer.Gav said:
captmcblack
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Glorious Master Race, teach me:
How can I get better airflow in my PC? I'm gonna reorganize stuff because Summer's coming and I've got a lot of parts OCed in my machine. I figure I can get better temps and maintain my OC with no loss of stability if I can fix my rat's nest. Are there any wiring rules/techniques I can follow?
Also, a side question:
I've still got IDE DVD burners in my rig, and I'd like to move to SATA if only to get rid of those bulky-ass IDE cables. What are the best burners? I always install 2, so let me know what the best pair is.
How can I get better airflow in my PC? I'm gonna reorganize stuff because Summer's coming and I've got a lot of parts OCed in my machine. I figure I can get better temps and maintain my OC with no loss of stability if I can fix my rat's nest. Are there any wiring rules/techniques I can follow?
Also, a side question:
I've still got IDE DVD burners in my rig, and I'd like to move to SATA if only to get rid of those bulky-ass IDE cables. What are the best burners? I always install 2, so let me know what the best pair is.
Gav said:
if you take a standard 2500k/4GB/6950 (or 560Ti) build, in a cheap case, you'd probably be able to do that for around £500-600. Then its up to you what you spend on a fancy case or monitor (for gaming considered a 1080p TV?)
560Ti/1GB 6950 - £180. £200 gets you a 2GB 6950 which might be more futureproof
P67 motherboard - £100
2500K CPU - £150
1TB samsung spinpoint F3 - £40
modular seasonic 520W PSU - £70
4GB RAM (2x2) - £35
DVD rom - £15
case - £20
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subtotal - £630
£120 for a 22" monitor
£30 for a wireless keyboard/mouse
total = £780
edit: scan have a 'today only' - £500 for
* BitFenix Survivor CORE, Black, Mid Tower Case with Handle w/o PSU
* 750W Coolermaster RS750-ACAAE3-UK GX, 80 PLUS, 85% Eff', SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, 120mm Fan
* Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, 1155, Sdy Bridge, QuadCore, 3.3GHz, GPU 850Mhz, 95W, Retail +Free Game
* Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3, Intel P67 Express, S 1155, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1333, SATA 6Gb/s RAID, ATX
* 2TB Samsung HD204UI/Z4 Spinpoint F4EG, SATA 3Gb/s, 5400rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ
* 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V
* Pioneer DVR-S19LBK 24x DVD±R, 12x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, RAM x12, SATA, Black, Retail Labelflash
no graphics casd though which is odd as that motherboard won't have graphics onboard.
2GB 6950 - £200
£120 for a 22" monitor
£30 for a wireless keyboard/mouse
total = £850
I'm no cable management expert but a case with routing options behind the motherboard tray is key. Modular PSU will also make life easy. Zip tie everything to the back of your mobo, and blow out your fans and everything with compressed air regularly. That's probably stuff you already know though, mostly common sense.
Eliciel
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Sorry to ask this question again, but I've read a lot of reviews concerning GTX 560 TI and Radeon HD 6870...
1) I don't really get which card is the better one or if there is a better one....just tell me which one to buy ^^
2) from which company should I buy it. I liked the Saphire HD and the Gainward GTX
thank you very much for your help
1) I don't really get which card is the better one or if there is a better one....just tell me which one to buy ^^
2) from which company should I buy it. I liked the Saphire HD and the Gainward GTX
thank you very much for your help
I think the 560ti is more in competition with the HD 6950, it's definitely better than a 6870. As for manufacturers it comes down to warranty/customer service. I only buy XFX for amd cards, and EVGA for nvidia. Though it doesn't really matter if a deal is good, all the cards are the same more or less.
voady said:Sorry to ask this question again, but I've read a lot of reviews concerning GTX 560 TI and Radeon HD 6870...
1) I don't really get which card is the better one or if there is a better one....just tell me which one to buy ^^
2) from which company should I buy it. I liked the Saphire HD and the Gainward GTX
thank you very much for your help
The GTX 560 Ti is the better card. 6870 was never a great buy, IMO...poorly placed in between the cheaper 6850 and the significantly better 6950.
You're in Europe, I assume? Gainward has always seemed pretty solid, from what I've seen. I like a lot of their aftermarket heatsink designs.
spicy cho said:
It's in direct competition with the 6950 1GB...I'd take the GTX 560 over the 6950 1GB for the NVidia advantages, as small as they may be (drivers, NVidia Inspector, Adobe Creative Suite acceleration, PhysX).
If you want to spend ~$30-50 more, however, the 6950 2GB is an attractive alternative as you can (usually) unlock the shaders and almost turn it into a 6970.
I'm thinking it has something to do with the paste. I had a bit of an issue installing the h70 and the paste at the bottom of the pump may have been effected. Also I don't think contact between the pump is the issue. To screw in the h70 over the CPU it sits on the chip and then that screws into the ring to keep it in place.19 & 21 said:
Guess ill try and apply the artic paste I got from newegg and re apply. How much should I use?
darkwing said:
According to this rough comparison : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/305?vs=302
CF 6850s are comparable to a gtx 580
ZZMitch said:
Well a static discharge can damage components at any given time. I think you're worrying about this. I just throw my box in my car when I move it around. Even with a heavy aftermarket cooler and GPU I don't have any problems. If you're worried about the weight of components just sit the box on it's side so the cooler and GPU will be held down by gravity into the motherboard. A pillow underneath also will help to reduce the impulse of bumps.
mclaren777
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I need you guys to motivate me to swap my P8P67 motherboard.
I've had the replacement for over six weeks but I can't bring myself to actually do it.
I've had the replacement for over six weeks but I can't bring myself to actually do it.
mclaren777 said:I need you guys to motivate me to swap my P8P67 motherboard.
I've had the replacement for over six weeks but I can't bring myself to actually do it.
I never ended up getting the B3 revision...I'm too lazy to swap it out. I'll pay for a new motherboard if ever mine stops working properly. I'll take my chances.
I do this same thing at least 5 times a year for multiple hours in the car for the past 11 years. I have never, ever, had a component break or fail.Shambles said:
*edit*
Anandtech did an article on SFF builds. This is one for a gaming system.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4348/small-form-factor-buyers-guide/4
I'm a big fan of SFF gaming rigs. Nothing like a ton of power in a small case.
DenogginizerOS
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I need more storage due to my burgeoning Steam collection and my inability to not download games. I currently have a 500gb hdd. Should I go with an internal or external hdd to use as a backup drive? I am considering putting an internal in and installing Steam and all of my games on it. The other option is an external that I use to image my main drive as well as transferring my Steamapps folder to it so I can store games I don't play. Thoughts?
spicy cho said:
Yeah no doubt, but that's somewhat alleviated if you're doing SLI on the higher end of the gpu line. I mean who'd get two , well I don't know gts 450s over a gtx 460 or w/e but I understand people getting two 570s over a 580.
two 570s costs, again here, around 40% more than a 580, but then again they sure as hell perform better than that. Also even if you're out of luck and for some reason SLI doesn't work, modern pc games aren't that taxing ( relatively speaking ) that one 570 wouldn't handle it valiantly.
That's just the way I see it, maybe it's that I've gotten lucky because I have yet to experience microstuttering. But every other downfall of SLI is just a compromise of buying more with less.
edit : this is all with regards to nvidia of course, my last ATI card was a 9800 XT.
Izayoi said:
Nope, Deck's warranty is also a year. Though, Deck has one of the rarest warranties in electronics in that it covers all modification, even down to PCB soldering. That said, they're built like brick houses so the only thing that I think you really risk needing to replace out of warranty may be a stray LED, keycap or cable (all of which are pretty easy to do).
Now, if you want a real expensive keyboard, the stuff with Topre switches are the ones that fit that bill. Only the Topre boards and the Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro series use them. Here in the US it's around $250-275 before shipping to get any of them new.
As a guy running x-fire currently, I can give you a few.darkwing said:
1. Witcher 2 and Brink CF profiles were just added yesterday. Before that, I had to manually disable crossfire to play them. This is the case with all games that do not have CF profiles, which is surprisingly quite a few. Though, they generally don't need 2 5870s to run at super high FPS. In situations such as that, you've paid for two cards and are only getting the performance of one.
2. I've encountered micro stuttering, which essentially tricks the human eye to perceive way worse performance than what is really going on.
3. With two 5870s in my case, that's quite a bit of extra heat and power. It's actually forcing me to spend additional money on probably a liquid cooling setup. Even if I weren't going liquid, I would need to invest in a more expensive case to handle it.
Sounds like the similar nightmare I had with my gtx 260's... Never again. From now on I'm picking up the best high end card for my money every 2 years or whenever I see fit. My 6970 has been such a great card, runs everything I throw at it in 2560x1600 without all the issues, at way higher FPS. Never tell me the numbers for multiple gpu setups, real world performance always tells a different story.mkenyon said:
Shin Johnpv
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Smokey said:
Yeah as I said here.
Shin Johnpv said:
If you're letting the motherboard, or the Asus OC Tool handle your overclock, its going to lead to it over compensating and giving the CPU a lot more volts than it needs.
I would not be surprised to see it giving it 1.5 or higher volts on a 4.6 overclock. You need to go into the advanced settings on your motherboards bios and set the voltage manually. I'm say try 1.3. I believe most 2600ks can hit 4.6 at 1.3 volts. Maybe some one else can specify more.
OP needs to be updated.
Seems like ZipZoomFly went out of business.
Website hasn't been working for the entire week.
Add http://www.mwave.com/ as a replacement.
Seems like ZipZoomFly went out of business.
Website hasn't been working for the entire week.
Add http://www.mwave.com/ as a replacement.
TheExodu5 said:Pretty much. Dual GPU solutions should only appu to the performance freaks that have nothing better to do with their money.
Pfft, I'm totally planning picking up another 6950 down the road to put into my case. Earlier if I ever see a good deal on one.
And I've only really had this build for like ... a week. Want more, damn it!
scy said:
Who doesn't? One of the worst temptations for me was this pc I built recently, and the reason is because I didn't really have to stick to a budget per se just use "common sense"( no quad 580s just because you can damn it ).
And we all know how that ends. Rationalizing up the ass, that's what happens.
" 2500 or 2600? Hmm well there's virtually no difference but I might be using this CAD program sometime "
" Gtx A, B, C, or D : A! No wait, that B is looking mighty juicy [reads benchmarks for 10h straight] C, definitely C no more. C it is! *looks at D* "
[insert component] ; repeat ad naseam.
Buy PC. Want to upgrade 48h later.
Corky said:
Worst part about it is that I grabbed a few pieces off Amazon and a few deals from newegg ahead of time so when it came to buying the bulk of my build, it came out to being fairly cheap since it was basically just the CPU and GPU purchased at the same time. So I was looking at it when I picked up the lone 6950 going "but the build is only at $500..." while forgetting the already purchased SSD, case, Motherboard, PSU ...
Good thing I had a friend there who reminded me or I'd probably have ended up with four GPUs to power a 6 monitor setup. From space.
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