Totally reasonable I think, but maybe I think that because people tend to overcharge for the 920 where I am.
Computer specs?
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Totally reasonable I think, but maybe I think that because people tend to overcharge for the 920 where I am.
Computer specs?
Not controversial at all.
Less pixels = lower frame times. Definitely easier to get better performance with a lower resolution.
My heart says wait for the new AMD cards, my head says get this.
oconnomiyaki
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Cheers, guys.
It's an i5 running at 2.66Ghz (don't know the model number exactly off-hand, sorry), a 4850 HD 1GB DDR3, and 8GB of RAM. Running Windows 8.
Anything AMD puts out won't perform at 670 levels at that price. Two 670 at £340 will probably demolish the 9970 which I guess will be in that price bracket
oconnomiyaki
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Nah, that's my laptop resolution, so I know I don't wanna go that low.
I used to have a 1440 x 900 and I didn't mind that at all. As for the machine, I got the i5 for nada but it had some pretty woeful kit inside. It had a 7300GT, 2GB RAM and a 250GB HDD. I didn't want to spend a fortune getting it up and running so I went with what I could afford. I didn't have a gaming PC before, so this will allow me to play Blizzard games and indie stuff. The most intensive thing I'll probably be running is the reboot of Rise of the Triad.
Nah, that's my laptop resolution, so I know I don't wanna go that low.
As for the machine, I got the i5 for nada but it had some pretty woeful kit inside. It had a 7300GT, 2GB RAM and a 250GB HDD. I didn't want to spend a fortune getting it up and running so I went with what I could afford. I didn't have a gaming PC before, so this will allow me to play Blizzard games and indie stuff. The most intensive thing I'll probably be running is the reboot of Rise of the Triad.
Keep your eyes open for a good GPU and you're not doing too bad. I had a 4850 two cards ago, so know the pain
There's a 7850 in the BST thread for $110 shipped right now.
PairOfFilthySocks
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I just remembered I can get Windows 7/8 Professional free through my college. At least, I think I still can. Is there any downside to these over the Home versions? Keep in mind this machine will pretty much be a games/programming machine.
Anything AMD puts out won't perform at 670 levels at that price. Two 670 at £340 will probably demolish the 9970 which I guess will be in that price bracket
Ew SLI
None
Do it.
Meh, maybe. If you're just gaming at 1080p there ain't no benefit atm. For the sake for $40 I probably would though.
Depends on what you can spend. Lower end stuff a 1080p IPS would be ideal.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Fair enough. So, I'm looking at the available OSs here, there's:
Windows 8 Professional
Windows 8.1 Professional Preview(I'm guessing this isn't the full thing)
Windows 7 Professional
Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass about just about everything I've seen of W8. However, 8.1 made some improvements, right? Are those available to W8 users? I'm kinda tempted to get 8 anyways since I fear MS will act like gobshites when it comes to DX12.
Yeah probably just over 100. Not looking to get fancy here. Browsing Newegg right now.
Stick to the regular brand names (Asus, LG, Samsung, BenQ) and just get something that looks nice enough for you to stare at every day. Everything on the low end is basically the same of 'good enough' it's when you start to get into the higher end (high res, 120hz, or perfect colour reproduction) that you need to worry.
Yeah 8.1 will be available to all 8 users.
DX 11.2 is already a Windows 8.1 exclusive.
The voice of reason.
Alright, I made some modifications to my build because (sorry mkenyon) the Prodigy was causing me more of a headache than I wanted. Let me know what you guys think:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (($334.98 @ Microcenter - Mobo/Proc combo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($182.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($298.99 @ Newegg + Splinter Cell Blacklist)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.42 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg) -- Already owned.
Total: $1036.36
Here are the Microcenter deals on the intel chips:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx
I didn't see any real benefit to going higher with the Gigabyte mobo but I may be missing something.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Okay, I've got an option of the "English" or "English-Great Britain" version. Either one seems to accomodate 32 or 64 bit. Does it really matter which I pick(in Ireland BTW).
Edit:
Alright. The 32/64 seem to be the same download, using something called Dreamshark. I thinkthat's some Microsoft downloader program. Thanks!
Go for the GB one, 64 bit.
Thinking of going this route. I'm used to playing on 15.4 inch monitors for the past 8 years, so I feel like anything bigger than 22 inches is going to look huge haha.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs228hp
Question. I was thinking about getting a biggr PSU to take less load off my current 550W PSU but could I still use the same cables that come with the smaller unit or do I have to unhook everything again? Like if its modular can I just disconnect everything from the PSU box and just slide the new box into the case and reconnect everything?
Most modulars are not compatible with each other.
PairOfFilthySocks
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What's all this OEM system builder stuff about? Apparently if you are assembling a PC yourself you are considered a system builder and eligible for an OEM license? Is this relevant at all or am I good to go by just putting the W8 Pro iso onto a usb with WUDT and booting from there?
Anton668
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first, why? how much load are you at? if its a good quality PSU with good efficiency and your not pushing it to the limits, I dont see the point.
and no, cables do not work like that
Just stick with the 8 Pro ISO, get it onto a USB and go. You'll be grand.
TenaciousNorth
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So I get paid on Friday and can purchase the final few parts to my first PC, what's the better option this or an Nvidia 760?
I'd go for the 670.
How can you tell if RAM is low-profile or not? I can't find indication anywhere.
You'l usually be able to tell by looking at it. What RAM are you considering?
Anton668
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How can you tell if RAM is low-profile or not? I can't find indication anywhere.
if its got the large heat spreaders on it - def not low profile
if it has no heat spreader at all - low profile
theres more to it than that for sure. but mostly, if you look at it and it has a hella big heat spreader on it, you dont want it. ram runs a lower temps these days so you really dont need a heat spreader on them
Anton668
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i wouldnt call it "low profile", but its better than alot with the heat spreaders that think they are skyscrapers!
what are you trying to fit them under?
It's almost low profile, although I'd consider this stuff for $58 instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
As long as it's not RAM like this you're OK, the GSKill stuff isn't all that tall.
Anton668
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yeah, this is specifically labeled as "low profile"
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB Low Profile Desktop Memory
barely taller than the silicon
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB Low Profile Desktop Memory
barely taller than the silicon
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the help guys. Order is placed!
yeah, this is specifically labeled as "low profile"
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB Low Profile Desktop Memory
barely taller than the silicon
GSkill also do properly low stuff (the Ares series) too but neither of those are worth the premium over the Ripjaws, they're fairly low as they are truth be told.
Anton668
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yeah, just giving an example. all in all it depends on what your putting it in. those first Gskills arent bad all things considered.
god i miss the samsung ram....
No! Not available anymore! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
What should I sub it with?
What should I sub it with?
No! Not available anymore! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
What should I sub it with?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
TenaciousNorth
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In that case I'll just hope it's still available at that price on Friday then.
It will be, and if not, there are plenty around the £200 mark elsewhere.
Back then, there were lots of RAM sellers and profit margins were crap. Many got out and so did Samsung.
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