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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Why no Titan Z?
Prophet Steve
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thanks...
In case it wasn't clear.
I am only being super jelly of that budget. The build isn't bad.
Why only one Titan Z?
Touché.
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
At that point he may as well just buy the whole Nvidia.
Is it bannable to say he makes the master race look like gaming peasants? I'll see you with a similar specced PC in another lifetime or something. That's the type of rig that would laugh at whatever Crytek or even Pixar could throw at it!
This is a great answer, thanks for the information.
just got my 780 ti and tried to play bf4 with 2gb ram lol , it was a slide show
i do have ram coming today from newegg.. got these,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231628
cant wait to see the difference
i do have ram coming today from newegg.. got these,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231628
cant wait to see the difference
Latentpsychopath
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Just bought an EVGA GTX 780 3gb card last week.
Soon after I received a notification from EVGA that a new 6gb GTX 780 card will be rolling out soon - and that it is eligible for their Step Up program whereby I can upgrade by paying the difference in costs between the card I bought and the new one.
How interested should I be in the 6gb card? Is there value there for 50$? 100$? more?
Thanks.
Soon after I received a notification from EVGA that a new 6gb GTX 780 card will be rolling out soon - and that it is eligible for their Step Up program whereby I can upgrade by paying the difference in costs between the card I bought and the new one.
How interested should I be in the 6gb card? Is there value there for 50$? 100$? more?
Thanks.
@rocK`
If you are gaming at 4k you will want the 6GB 780Ti or the Titan Black. 3GB isn't going to cut it. You also may want to consider SLI 780Tis/Titans, 4k requires an insane amount of GPU power to run at an reasonable framerate.
6GB 780Ti isn't out yet but will be exactly the same as the Titan Black but cheaper. They just limited the double floating point precision performance which has no effect on gaming.
6GB = 4K, threes screen, 3D, 2560x1600 with max eye candy, horribly optimized texture mods for sky rim.
If you are gaming at 4k you will want the 6GB 780Ti or the Titan Black. 3GB isn't going to cut it. You also may want to consider SLI 780Tis/Titans, 4k requires an insane amount of GPU power to run at an reasonable framerate.
6GB 780Ti isn't out yet but will be exactly the same as the Titan Black but cheaper. They just limited the double floating point precision performance which has no effect on gaming.
6GB = 4K, threes screen, 3D, 2560x1600 with max eye candy, horribly optimized texture mods for sky rim.
I last built a PC in 2007 and stopped using it a couple years later since I wasn't doing much gaming. So while once upon a time I knew my stuff and kept current, it's been a while. So let's just say I'm a bit out of the loop.
Anyway, someone at work was selling a Gigabyte mobo, Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, and Antec 500W PSU for all of $30. Since I knew the PSU alone was worth that, I bought it.
I have a 1GB 4870 lying around I got for free, as well as a case and a handful of HDDs. So all it needs is some DDR3 and it'll be a full rig.
My question is: is it even worth building this thing? Obviously this is all several year old hardware, is it going to be able to run anything at worthwhile performance? I'm not expecting 4K/120 or even 1080p/60 - will 720p/30 mid-high settings on modern titles be feasible? i.e. will it even look any better than Xbox 360 games?
Also, my primary computer is my MacBook Pro (2.7GHz quad i7 3820QM, 1GB GT650M). I installed Windows 7 on it a while back with the intent of gaming on it but got distracted and never followed through. Would I be better off just going that route?
Thanks!
Anyway, someone at work was selling a Gigabyte mobo, Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, and Antec 500W PSU for all of $30. Since I knew the PSU alone was worth that, I bought it.
I have a 1GB 4870 lying around I got for free, as well as a case and a handful of HDDs. So all it needs is some DDR3 and it'll be a full rig.
My question is: is it even worth building this thing? Obviously this is all several year old hardware, is it going to be able to run anything at worthwhile performance? I'm not expecting 4K/120 or even 1080p/60 - will 720p/30 mid-high settings on modern titles be feasible? i.e. will it even look any better than Xbox 360 games?
Also, my primary computer is my MacBook Pro (2.7GHz quad i7 3820QM, 1GB GT650M). I installed Windows 7 on it a while back with the intent of gaming on it but got distracted and never followed through. Would I be better off just going that route?
Thanks!
That rig might be ok for watching movies. Gaming? Not so much. You Macbook won't be great either but a little better.
Maybe I'll put it together and have my fun with overclocking it (apparently it's damn easy to unlock the other two cores on that Phenom and turn it into a quad, all while hitting 4GHz on air) and then see if I can flip it on Craigslist for $200 or something.
Even with the CPU OC'd and turned into a quad, do you think it would still be a major bottleneck if I tossed, say, an R9 270 in there?
exmachina64
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Anyone who would buy that when they can get an i5-4670k for around the same price is an idiot.
I meant the whole system with the 4870 in it.
exmachina64
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Ah, my bad.
Absolutely would bottleneck. The Phenom can get 4 core at 4 Ghz, but 4Ghz on the phenom is nothing like 4Ghz on a modern intel processor. The instructions per clock are way lower on the phenom. A friend of mine at that same processor with 4 cores unlocked and a GTX670 and then moved to a 3650k and saw a 15% in fps.
Flip it if you can for $200 and put that towards a new system.
Got it, thanks for the advice. I haven't really been a PC gamer since the days when the Core 2 Duo was where it was at, haha.
I just relocated to Chicago and had to leave my 144hz 1080p monitor at home and the Qnix 120" 1440P monitor I purchased shat the bed after 3 days of use.
However, I am using my new Vizio 40" set as my monitor until the replacement Qnix shows up. Surprisingly, I was able to OC the Vizio to 96hz. No artifiacts and no skipped frames. The weird thing though is that in the Vizio menues, once I OC'd it, the advance picture choices are all gone. When I clock it back down to 60hz, they come back.
However, I am using my new Vizio 40" set as my monitor until the replacement Qnix shows up. Surprisingly, I was able to OC the Vizio to 96hz. No artifiacts and no skipped frames. The weird thing though is that in the Vizio menues, once I OC'd it, the advance picture choices are all gone. When I clock it back down to 60hz, they come back.
I had almost that exact same setup until about a year/year½ ago (an X3 instead of X2), I had to replace the 4870 with a GTX 660 because it just wasnt keeping up with the non-UE3 games that were coming out (and I think it was dying anyway), then after a few months I replaced everything else because it was bottlenecking the 660. It's only worth building if you know you won't be able to build a full system for 5-6 more months.
Shadow2222
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Okay, so I think a GTX 780 or R9 290x will fit in my pitiful XPS 8300 case, but I'm now having issues with the PSU. It is so fricking tiny, with no extra space, that I'm having a really tough time finding a 750w that will fit. Am I screwed?
Interesting, thanks. I'm actually not really interested in truly getting back into PC gaming on the grounds that I can't justify the expense - I simply don't have the time to game more than a few hours a week now. I am itching to make a rig solely because I enjoy the whole building/overclocking/maintaining and being on the cutting edge, but I'm trying to tell myself to wait a couple years until DDR4 goes mainstream and I'll have a new technology to play with.
I was thinking about throwing this setup together since I've got a backlog of titles I've been meaning to play. But it seems my MacBook Pro might make more sense.
Why do you need a 750W? A good 550 is more than enough for either card.
Or you could wait and get the SFX sized Silverstone 600W that is coming out soon, So Tiny!
Shadow2222
Member
Oh really? I thought I read that a 750 was necessary. Thanks!
cormack12
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Hey guys
Just getting ready to go for my order. Kharma45 put together a decent rig for me in the last thread and I'm just wondering if this is still relevant as the price drops mean it's now ready to commit for me - is there a way to eek out more insane value for little outlay here? Just to be clear here's the original use case
Proposed rig: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2twsz
Just getting ready to go for my order. Kharma45 put together a decent rig for me in the last thread and I'm just wondering if this is still relevant as the price drops mean it's now ready to commit for me - is there a way to eek out more insane value for little outlay here? Just to be clear here's the original use case
Proposed rig: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2twsz
Your Current Specs: Nothing
Budget: £500-600, UK
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest:
Light Gaming (4), Gaming (5), General Usage (2).
Monitor Resolution: I have a Panasonic 42" Plasma TV to plug into @ 1920 x 1080. That resolution is fine for me as a maximum. Possibly looking to downsample using it as well if possible.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Any multi platform games I'd hope to be able to plug into the TV and enjoy on the big screen with PS4 controller (with better performance than consoles). I'd like to be able to run whatever is current at high settings (games like Rome:Total War II, LoL, ACIV, Witcher 3 - not really fussed about FPS as I'm gradually moving more and more away from them).
Is 30FPS acceptable? 60 as a minimum for the above games with high settings.
Looking to reuse any parts? No
When will you build? When it gets delivered next week hopefully
Will you be overclocking? If possible
OldAsUrSock
Banned
At stock settings you probably will not be able to run The Witcher 3 max settings @ 60fps,but you would most likely get 60fps in AC4 with no AA.
That's only a requirement because the gpu manufacturers have to protect themselves from people using shitty power supplies and expecting the cards to work.
scottXplosion
Member
Those will work nicely. I've had 2 sets in my I5 build for the past 2 years with zero issues.
Kiru
Member
I'm kinda sad that I would miss out on PhysX effects if I really pick up a Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce and not a nVidia card in that price range. Why are those so damn expensive in comparison ? That anandtech benchmark comparison favors the R9 290 everywhere and it would only cost me like 360€...
Maybe because people want features like PhysX, Shadowplay and G-sync? Who knows, perhaps nvidia are just spending more on advertising. AMD have to price below nVidia because nVidia holds the greater market share right now.
That's the way it's been for a long time. NVIDIA gives you features and special tech, AMD gives you raw performance:$.
At this very moment, I keep flipping back and forth between a 780 Classified and R9-290 myself.
do you have a preference between those? pros and cons based on your personal experience?
maneil99
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Classified Overclocks like a motherfucker. Most go 1300mhz+
And CUDA, good OpenGL drivers, good reference coolers for those who want a blower, etc.
For me personally these features (especially G-Sync / CUDA / GL) weigh so heavily that AMD doesn't have a chance of selling me a GPU any time in the near future. Nvidia could ask for $200 more at the same performance level and I'd pay; what they are asking now is a steal. Obviously the majority of people do not value the features that highly, and I'm glad they don't, since it means Nvidia can't get away with charging more.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I just want to take a moment to say that its ridiculous how multiplat (developed on PC) games like Destiny and MGSV Phantom Pain aren't releasing on PC. It's 2014, get with the times publishers.
Physx ain't worth being bummed about. If you are choosing between a r9 290 and Gtx 770 get the 290 no question. If you are debating 290 or 780 then you can feel good about either.
opticalmace
Member
(Edited for clarity)
I can't get sound when using a miniDP to HDMI adapter, connected from a Radeon 6950 to my monitor. It works fine if I use HDMI to HDMI, but it should work with miniDP to HDMI too, right?
This is the adapter I'm using btw, which says it supports audio: http://www.amazon.ca/Mini-DisplayPort-to-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B0025V2VO0/
I can't get sound when using a miniDP to HDMI adapter, connected from a Radeon 6950 to my monitor. It works fine if I use HDMI to HDMI, but it should work with miniDP to HDMI too, right?
This is the adapter I'm using btw, which says it supports audio: http://www.amazon.ca/Mini-DisplayPort-to-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B0025V2VO0/
Played about one hour without any issues so I guess my problem is solved.
Big thanks to everyone who has helped me!
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3hYVx
This is my final build. Only thing different will be the case. I am unsure about the preowned 670 or new 760 with game. Both are £160. My wallet weeps.
This is my final build. Only thing different will be the case. I am unsure about the preowned 670 or new 760 with game. Both are £160. My wallet weeps.
Prophet Steve
Member
I kind of doubt what I would buy if I want a new card.
I know AMD would be doing about the microstuttering, but is it really completely removed now? It is something I am extremely bothered by with my current 6950.
I know AMD would be doing about the microstuttering, but is it really completely removed now? It is something I am extremely bothered by with my current 6950.
Been eyeing the 780 since I may get to upgrade for my birthday. The sacrifice of raw power for those options seems worth it.
It's been fixed, even on crossfire.
Prophet Steve
Member
Hmn, since here the prices are not really effected by the mining I might just go for an AMD card again when I would buy a new card.
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