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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine

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diaspora

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This is my first real gaming build, so.. sorry, I'm new to this. Is there a reason why the i5 is preferred over the FX-8350 for Dolphin emulation?

AFAIK, the IPC, or instructions per clock that the i5 can actually process is much better on Intel than AMD.
 

Mohasus

Member
Is it connected to an Intel SATA3 slot or a shitty marvell or asmedia or whatever provided slot?

Oh, I did. Didn't know about that, was doing some cable management and thought those higher ports would help. Now I learned why they are called Sata3_A1/A2. Won't use them again. :)

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Thank you.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Putting my old build back together and now having problems there as well. I think I need to step away from it all for a day. Lol
 

Indignate

Member
So looking to build my first PC after sitting at this pre-built HP for 7 years and looking for input.

This is what I'm looking at. Budget of $1000. Not looking to overclock. Mainly for gaming. Mainly for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3miDY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3miDY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3miDY/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($61.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($67.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $968.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 04:43 EDT-0400)

I'm not sure how much I actually want the SSD. Load times aren't going to kill me, but the benefits of putting the OS on there sound pretty good. So if I could go smaller just for the OS or scrap it entirely and put the money elsewhere, I'm game for that, unless the benefits of the SSD outweigh anything else I could do with the extra cash.

I was told that the power supply might not suffice as the card has a suggestion of at least 750WU. I then got recommended this card and PCU instead.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2oc2gd5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

I was also recommended this USED power supply. Was told that since it was sold through EVGA, I would still be able to get warranty on it. Should I be more cautious about use and just go new?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9LO3NI/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Also, I'm not too crazy about the case. It's not that big of a deal, but if anybody has got any recommendations on that, I'll take them.
 

Firebrand

Member

Avoid the SSDNow V300. Here's why.

Grab a M500 instead.
I really think you should grab another SSD though. Aside from making desktop applications a lot snappier I can imagine it'd help with openworld games that are constantly streaming in new data. If you're on a strict budget adding one later ought to be a simple procedure though, as long as you don't mind reinstalling OS/applications or you have a smaller OS partition on the harddrive you can clone.

Also your motherboard is an mATX one, is that intentional?
 

Lizardus

Member
So looking to build my first PC after sitting at this pre-built HP for 7 years and looking for input.

This is what I'm looking at. Budget of $1000. Not looking to overclock. Mainly for gaming. Mainly for gaming.



I'm not sure how much I actually want the SSD. Load times aren't going to kill me, but the benefits of putting the OS on there sound pretty good. So if I could go smaller just for the OS or scrap it entirely and put the money elsewhere, I'm game for that, unless the benefits of the SSD outweigh anything else I could do with the extra cash.

I was told that the power supply might not suffice as the card has a suggestion of at least 750WU. I then got recommended this card and PCU instead.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2oc2gd5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

I was also recommended this USED power supply. Was told that since it was sold through EVGA, I would still be able to get warranty on it. Should I be more cautious about use and just go new?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9LO3NI/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Also, I'm not too crazy about the case. It's not that big of a deal, but if anybody has got any recommendations on that, I'll take them.

A different SSD like others have said and more powerful PSU would be my recommendation. Also, did you conside a GTX 780?
 

Daffy Duck

Member
Ok, I'm looking to build a new PC.

I don't currently have one and only have a dual core laptop.

Your Current Specs: Amd laptop with 4gb ram, integrated Radeon mobility 4200, 1tb hdd

Budget: £600-650, UK

Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 4, Gaming 3, Emulation 4, dolphin(possibly)

General usage-photoshop work in creating website visuals.

Monitor Resolution: probably 1080p, maybe even 1980x1200 (res my monitor is at work), will be looking at dual monitor setup.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Sim city 4. Spelunkers, fez, hotline Miami, left for dead 1/2, minecraft, those types of games, maybe some newer stuff, sorry if it's vague but I mainly use my xb1/ps4 for games.

Looking to reuse any parts?: No

When will you build?: Do you have a deadline? No deadline

Will you be overclocking?: Yes,

I understand there will probably be some compromises here. It's more a machine to work on for building websites but with the benefit of being able to play some games like those interested (more Indy stuff).

Thanks
 

Indignate

Member
Will definitely grab a different SSD then.

Also your motherboard is an mATX one, is that intentional?

Not on my part, just another part that was recommended. Should I grab a standard instead?

Also, did you conside a GTX 780?

Video cards go completely over my hard. I know what they do, but I get lost in the branding. Again, most of this stuff has been recommendations. Is a GTX something I should consider?
 

Ieu

Member
Ok, I'm looking to build a new PC.

I don't currently have one and only have a dual core laptop.

Your Current Specs: Amd laptop with 4gb ram, integrated Radeon mobility 4200, 1tb hdd

Budget: £600-650, UK

Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 4, Gaming 3, Emulation 4, dolphin(possibly)

General usage-photoshop work in creating website visuals.

Monitor Resolution: probably 1080p, maybe even 1980x1200 (res my monitor is at work), will be looking at dual monitor setup.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Sim city 4. Spelunkers, fez, hotline Miami, left for dead 1/2, minecraft, those types of games, maybe some newer stuff, sorry if it's vague but I mainly use my xb1/ps4 for games.

Looking to reuse any parts?: No

When will you build?: Do you have a deadline? No deadline

Will you be overclocking?: Yes,

I understand there will probably be some compromises here. It's more a machine to work on for building websites but with the benefit of being able to play some games like those interested (more Indy stuff).

Thanks

My two penneth: If you're including the 2 monitors as part of your £650 budget then you're eating in to the money that would be required to buy stuff to drive them...
 

YoungOne

Member
Probably a dumb question, but what would be better? A gtx 760 2gb or a 270x 4gb I see them both at round the same price of 250.
 
Probably a dumb question, but what would be better? A gtx 760 2gb or a 270x 4gb I see them both at round the same price of 250.
You could get a 270x 2GB for around $180USD, but according to GPUboss the 760 will be the better performer. I'm not an expert by any means, though.
 

riflen

Member
Probably a dumb question, but what would be better? A gtx 760 2gb or a 270x 4gb I see them both at round the same price of 250.

As the price similarity betrays, they are so similar that it's not really possible to place one above the other on game performance alone. The ubiquitous anand bench link:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1043

I would suggest that you consider any games bundles being offered, rebates you can find to help you make the decision.

You should also know that if you are interested in downsampling, it's simpler to achieve with nvidia's control panel. Nvidia's card also gives you Shadowplay (a DVR of sorts for your gameplay that has near zero performance penalty), PhysX features in some games and support for G-Sync displays when they arrive in the summer.
 

Zaph

Member
Because I'm pretty sure I'm getting a 4k monitor from work to replace my main Dell 1440p soon, last week I had a moment of weakness and decided to replace my old portrait secondary monitor with a Asus VG248QE. Glory to the 144hz gods, it is truly something to behold.

Apart from plugging it in and setting the monitor on 'Gaming' mode, is there anything else I need to do to get the most out of the VG248QE? Also, is there any harm in getting a longer dual link DVI cable, the one included is tiny and impossible to route.

Now comes the agonising task of deciding which games I assign to which monitor...
 

riflen

Member
Because I'm pretty sure I'm getting a 4k monitor from work to replace my main Dell 1440p soon, last week I had a moment of weakness and decided to replace my old portrait secondary monitor with a Asus VG248QE. Glory to the 144hz gods, it is truly something to behold.

Apart from plugging it in and setting the monitor on 'Gaming' mode, is there anything else I need to do to get the most out of the VG248QE? Also, is there any harm in getting a longer dual link DVI cable, the one included is tiny and impossible to route.

Now comes the agonising task of deciding which games I assign to which monitor...

I used a huge Dual-Link DVI cable to drive a 120Hz display. It was 5 metres I think and worked perfectly.
 

YoungOne

Member
You could get a 270x 2GB for around $180USD, but according to GPUboss the 760 will be the better performer. I'm not an expert by any means, though.


As the price similarity betrays, they are so similar that it's not really possible to place one above the other on game performance alone. The ubiquitous anand bench link:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1043

I would suggest that you consider any games bundles being offered, rebates you can find to help you make the decision.

You should also know that if you are interested in downsampling, it's simpler to achieve with nvidia's control panel. Nvidia's card also gives you Shadowplay (a DVR of sorts for your gameplay that has near zero performance penalty), PhysX features in some games and support for G-Sync displays when they arrive in the summer.

Thanks, ordered the gtx 760.
 

Gumbie

Member
I've got a strange problem I'm looking for advice on. I'm currently running gigabyte Windforce 770s in sli on a Asus Maximus V. Asus recommends the first red slot and the 2nd black slot so the cards don't use the PLX chip and run native. The problem is with the 2b black slot. If I put the card in and use the thumb screws to secure it....it's like the torque of the thumbscrews barely pulls the card up out of the slot just enough to make it not see the hardware. Looking at it with the screws in you would never know it wasn't in good. I just have to boot up and check the bios to see if it's seeing it. On the other hand if I leave the screws out it sees it perfectly but I really don't like leaving that heavy ass card just hanging there.

Meanwhile if I move to a different slot it works great but it using the PLX chip which makes me super paranoid about micro studdering. I think the problem is some how tied to the weight of the card because it's got that giant heatsink and 3 fans. Any ideas?

Welp after dicking with it for a couple of hours last night I've come to the conclusion that the 2b slot has an issue. I put it in another slot using the PLX chip and I lost a whopping 146 points on my graphics score in 3dmark11. Not worth the headache so I'm just going to leave it there.
 

Daedardus

Member
Looking for a new case. My budget is around €150 max. Mostly looking for solid build quality with ease of use. I've looked into the Corsair 750D, but I find that one to be quite ugly, both the front and the plastic window at the side.

The CM 690 III got my attention. Anyone experience with it? Other suggestions are always welcome.
 

GoaThief

Member
Why not? ;-)

I'm expecting 8 cores to become the standard for a fair few games due to the latest generations of consoles, titles like Watch Dogs seem to indicate this. My 2500k is at 4.5ghz, will a replacement theoretically OC to the same ballpark?
 

kharma45

Member
Looking for a new case. My budget is around €150 max. Mostly looking for solid build quality with ease of use. I've looked into the Corsair 750D, but I find that one to be quite ugly, both the front and the plastic window at the side.

The CM 690 III got my attention. Anyone experience with it? Other suggestions are always welcome.

Had a look at the Fractal R4?

Ok, I'm looking to build a new PC.

I don't currently have one and only have a dual core laptop.

Your Current Specs: Amd laptop with 4gb ram, integrated Radeon mobility 4200, 1tb hdd

Budget: £600-650, UK

Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 4, Gaming 3, Emulation 4, dolphin(possibly)

General usage-photoshop work in creating website visuals.

Monitor Resolution: probably 1080p, maybe even 1980x1200 (res my monitor is at work), will be looking at dual monitor setup.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Sim city 4. Spelunkers, fez, hotline Miami, left for dead 1/2, minecraft, those types of games, maybe some newer stuff, sorry if it's vague but I mainly use my xb1/ps4 for games.

Looking to reuse any parts?: No

When will you build?: Do you have a deadline? No deadline

Will you be overclocking?: Yes,

I understand there will probably be some compromises here. It's more a machine to work on for building websites but with the benefit of being able to play some games like those interested (more Indy stuff).

Thanks

Two monitors alone you're talking say £220 for a pair of these 1080p IPS ones http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/109-98-acer-monitor-ips-23-8-amazon-1866096

You could look along the lines of this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£56.22 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card (£119.53 @ Dabs)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£34.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Acer IPS 2x (£220.00)
Other: HyperX 8 GB 1600 MHz CL9 DDR3 HyperX Beast Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 4GB) - Intel XMP (£53.98)
Total: £636.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 17:35 BST+0100)

No overclocking with that set up though. To get a build that could do that you'd be talking around the £780 mark.
 

kennah

Member
Why not? ;-)

I'm expecting 8 cores to become the standard for a fair few games due to the latest generations of consoles, titles like Watch Dogs seem to indicate this. My 2500k is at 4.5ghz, will a replacement theoretically OC to the same ballpark?
They won't always overclock to the same level. And there is no point on upgrading when speculating. You'll always get a better return if you wait until your computer feels slow. You'll likely see zero difference in games between a 2500k and a 2600k. The chips themselves will be completely irrelevant by the time hyper threading will be needed.

Remember those specs that are posted are assuming the lowest common denominator - NON overclocked chips. An overclocked 2500K will be faster than a stock 3770 in most applications.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Think I may upgrade my 2500k to one with hyperthreading, what's the recommendation for my z68 MOBO GAF?
I've done that to test and there's really no point now, even with streaming and encoding for the amount that I do.
Looking for a new case. My budget is around €150 max. Mostly looking for solid build quality with ease of use. I've looked into the Corsair 750D, but I find that one to be quite ugly, both the front and the plastic window at the side.

The CM 690 III got my attention. Anyone experience with it? Other suggestions are always welcome.
Check OP? Anything else? I helped a friend put a CM690 III together, still a good case.
 

toa95

Member
Budget: $900 give or take a bit.
Needs: PC Gaming, something that can run just about any current game at decent settings.

Here is the current build I put together for him any suggestions that could make it better without hiking up the price? Sorry if this isn't the place for this just let me know and I will delete the post.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.22 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $879.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 12:55 EDT-0400)
 
Budget: $900 give or take a bit.
Needs: PC Gaming, something that can run just about any current game at decent settings.

Here is the current build I put together for him any suggestions that could make it better without hiking up the price? Sorry if this isn't the place for this just let me know and I will delete the post.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.22 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $879.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 12:55 EDT-0400)

Grab W8.1 from Reddit's software-swap for $20 and you'll have an extra $70 to spend elsewhere... which should be enough to get a Crucial M500 120 GB SSD from Amazon to go along with the HDD you already picked out. Install the OS and any commonly used programs onto the SSD and use the HDD for media storage.
 

kharma45

Member
Budget: $900 give or take a bit.
Needs: PC Gaming, something that can run just about any current game at decent settings.

Here is the current build I put together for him any suggestions that could make it better without hiking up the price? Sorry if this isn't the place for this just let me know and I will delete the post.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.22 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $879.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 12:55 EDT-0400)

Chance away from the FX 6300. Drop the DVD drive too.
 

toa95

Member
Chance away from the FX 6300. Drop the DVD drive too.

Why get away from the FX 6300? I have it in my build and it's been great so far. Also when I decided against a DVD drive I ended up having to go through hell to get Windows installed. What is the best way to get Windows installed without a drive?
 

LordAlu

Member
Budget: $900 give or take a bit.
Needs: PC Gaming, something that can run just about any current game at decent settings.

Here is the current build I put together for him any suggestions that could make it better without hiking up the price? Sorry if this isn't the place for this just let me know and I will delete the post.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3knBx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.22 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $879.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 12:55 EDT-0400)
How does this look to you?:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($20.00 @ Reddit)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 13:37 EDT-0400)

You've got an Intel Core i3 which matches, if not beats the FX-6300 when it comes to gaming whilst providing a much better future upgrade path (see here), a 120GB SSD in there (which is the single best thing you will ever have in a computer for the speed it provides), a better quality GTX 760, slightly cheaper but smaller case and a better power supply for less. All made possible with Windows from Reddit :D
 

Zaph

Member
I used a huge Dual-Link DVI cable to drive a 120Hz display. It was 5 metres I think and worked perfectly.
Thanks dude. So difficult to route these dual link cables down monitor arms and cable tidies, they're so damn rigid. The extra length should help things.
 

orochi91

Member
This is my first real gaming build, so.. sorry, I'm new to this. Is there a reason why the i5 is preferred over the FX-8350 for Dolphin emulation?

Depends on the version of Dolphin you use. Earlier Dolphin builds were completely
compatible with AMD processors, whereas as the latest developments are Intel
focused. I'm currently running version "3.0_71 Xenoblade HLE Hack v3.1 x64"
which runs Xenoblade at full speed, 1080p, 4xSSAA, x16AF WITH the HD
texture pack on my 4.8Ghz FX-8350. 79 hours in and not a single issue with
frame rate or audio.

Seriously, I am super disappointed that the Dolphin development scene have completely
ignored AMD processors, the latest builds can't run Xenoblade on my PC without
massive audio stutter and frame rate issues. Use earlier builds if you're gunna
go AMD.
 

toa95

Member
How does this look to you?:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($20.00 @ Reddit)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 13:37 EDT-0400)

You've got an Intel Core i3 which matches, if not beats the FX-6300 when it comes to gaming whilst providing a much better future upgrade path (see here), a 120GB SSD in there (which is the single best thing you will ever have in a computer for the speed it provides), a better quality GTX 760, slightly cheaper but smaller case and a better power supply for less. All made possible with Windows from Reddit :D

Any negatives with getting a dual core CPU in 2014? I really like what you were able to do and it amazes me what people can do when you just take away one thing.
 
Hi guys, I'm looking to upgrade my PC, but I really don't know if I can keep any of the components so far.

My current config is:

Intel Core i7-860 (QC, 2.8GHz, 8MB Cache, HT)
8GB DDR3 1600MHz Kingston HyperX (4x2GB)
AMD Radeon HD 5870 1GB
ASUS P7P55D Pro
1x 120GB Corsair Force 3 SDD
2x 500GB Hitachi 500GB 7.2k
Seventeam 850W (ST850ZAF)

I wonder if I can only get a new GPU and keep everything else. PC parts are really expensive where I live and I don't really want do spend THAT much on processor and mobo also.

Will I be CPU bottlenecked if I get a GTX 770 or a 780 for example?

Thanks in advance.
 

5amshift

Banned
Finally I get to say I will be building a new computer thanks to a brand new job opportunity I was offered yesterday! It's been since BioShock that I've had a new computer and I'm super excited to build a new.

I'll be coming back pretty soon to see if anybody can recommend me parts, since as you can see, I've been out of the loop for about 5+ years.
 
Finally I get to say I will be building a new computer thanks to a brand new job opportunity I was offered yesterday! It's been since BioShock that I've had a new computer and I'm super excited to build a new.

I'll be coming back pretty soon to see if anybody can recommend me parts, since as you can see, I've been out of the loop for about 5+ years.
Just remember that if you're in the US, Microcenter is the place to go for CPU+mobo combos.
 

toa95

Member
How does this look to you?
He is wondering if an SSD can be added in later, because we took out the SSD and ended up with this build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($20.00)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $847.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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FLAguy954

Junior Member
This is my first real gaming build, so.. sorry, I'm new to this. Is there a reason why the i5 is preferred over the FX-8350 for Dolphin emulation?

I'm building my first gaming rig as well, I'm just waiting for the cash to buy an i5 + mobo then it is time to build. I've been doing a ton of research on computer parts (my uninformed self would of undoubtedly went with AMD just based on price alone) and I also learned plenty about emulating GameCube and PS2 along the way.

I wanted to know why my current laptop (an A10-4600M which I found out had a really shitty CPU setup) couldn't run the emulated games at full speed. I found out why and thus was prompted to build a proper build over the course of 2014. When I figured out just how huge the gap was between AMD and Intel, I decided that I wouldn't settle for anything less than an i5 4670K.

I prepared to cry cyber-tears of joy knowing that I'm going to get an exponentially massive performance upgrade with my new rig lol.
 

sgjackson

Member
General question: What constitutes a good motherboard, and how much does a given board's VRM matter when figuring this out? Obviously figuring this out from a connectivity/features standpoint is pretty easy, but I'm clueless about the rest of it and just discovered this list dissecting motherboard components and feel like I should be more aware of it. I'm assuming that most boards do voltage regulation okay and it's only worth avoiding the explicitly shitty ones.
 

LordAlu

Member
Any negatives with getting a dual core CPU in 2014? I really like what you were able to do and it amazes me what people can do when you just take away one thing.

Not at all, dual-core CPUs are still more than capable of holding their own - the i3 outperforms the FX-6300 in gaming for example, despite the FX-6300 having more cores.

He is wondering if an SSD can be added in later, because we took out the SSD and ended up with this build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mtMb/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($20.00)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $847.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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With the DVD drive gone you could actually sneak an i5 in there and still have a very good quality SSD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($73.47 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($20.00 @ Reddit)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $894.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 16:22 EDT-0400)

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General question: What constitutes a good motherboard, and how much does a given board's VRM matter when figuring this out? Obviously figuring this out from a connectivity/features standpoint is pretty easy, but I'm clueless about the rest of it and just discovered this list dissecting motherboard components and feel like I should be more aware of it. I'm assuming that most boards do voltage regulation okay and it's only worth avoiding the explicitly shitty ones.

Well, obviously the first thing is deciding what processor you want and narrowing it down to the motherboards that work with that processor.

From there you're going to be paying more for the following:

Better audio codecs
More utility connectivity (USB 3.0 slots, etc)
Better overclock capability and support in the BIOS
Better main slots (PCI-E for crossfire/xls, etc)
Physical aesthetics

If you're building a gaming machine and not sure about the motherboard, just go with Asus. They're the big name in both age and market size, and that means reliability and cost efficiency. Depending on your price point you can either get a standard, or go up a notch to their Republic of Gamer tier.
 

sgjackson

Member
Well, obviously the first thing is deciding what processor you want and narrowing it down to the motherboards that work with that processor.

From there you're going to be paying more for the following:

Better audio codecs
More utility connectivity (USB 3.0 slots, etc)
Better overclock capability and support in the BIOS
Better main slots (PCI-E for crossfire/xls, etc)
Physical aesthetics

Yeah, I know that stuff. Was specifically curious about VRMs.
 
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