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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Not sure if you've seen this - did a search of 5960 but couldn't find anything.
Thought you might find it useful
Really wouldn't shock me at all if this is the case with the 5960x and 5930k...8 core vs. 6 core. It's how I've had it playing out in my head.
Memorabilia
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The 250x is slightly slower than the 7770. Its more like a 7750.
Rough equivalents:
250x = 7750
260 = 7770
260x = 7790
265 = 7850
270 = 7870
The 7850 is far more powerful than the 7770 or even the 7790 due to the 256 bit bus. Likewise, the R7 265 is a much better GPU than any of the lower cards. Like the 7850 before it, the 265 is arguably the "sweet spot" AMD GPU right now if you can get one for, say, $130. Like all of the R7's its basically just a tweaked refresh of the earlier HD GPU...but that does mean it will give slightly better performance than the 7850 (kind of half-way between the 7850 and 7870). Bottom line is the 265 is a great GPU for the money. Unless you find a 270 for a similar price the 265 is the best bang for the buck right now. I own a 7850 and love the frame-rates. Its generally even playable on most games at 2560 x 1600.
On the other hand, for some applications I like nVidia's GTX 750ti just a tiny bit more since it gives similar performance to the 265 at half the power draw and about the same price point. The 750ti is, right now, the best performance per watt GPU available and is absolutely perfect for low power/low heat/Steam machine/HTPC duties. To be honest I'm surprised the 750ti hasnt gotten a lot more hype as its performance per watt is arguably borderline revolutionary. Anywho, both the 265 and 750ti are great GPUs and well worth the money.
Might need to upgrade to a 140W CPU, ivy bridge just isn't heating up my room enough. (Basement rooms suck)Not sure if you've seen this - did a search of 5960 but couldn't find anything.
Thought you might find it useful
http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-...ations-unveiled-flagship-8-core-boost-33-ghz/
Felix Lighter
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Not sure if you've seen this - did a search of 5960 but couldn't find anything.
Thought you might find it useful
http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-...ations-unveiled-flagship-8-core-boost-33-ghz/
The low clock speed of the i7 5960x makes me think that it might not be the way to go, if this chart ends up being accurate. If the additional cores force significantly lower clock speeds, the 6 core i7 5930K may be better overall for games.
Mineshaft_Gap
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I got my Asus GTX 780 in the mail today. I've been playing with it a bit and I'm surprised so far.
I owned an EVGA GTX 780 ACX SC prior to this but returned it after deciding to buy something online to save a bit of money. This card was a $487 and the EVGA was like $560 after tax.
While I think the EVGA card looks nicer that's about the only thing I can count in its favor. Granted, it's clocked faster from the factory (hence: superclocked) but I was only able to get a stable GPU OC of around +40Mhz above stock. I'm sitting pretty at roughly +222Mhz on the Asus and I feel like it's much quieter.
This ok?
I also must say that the Asus packaging is FAR superior to EVGA's. Not that it matters really but I gotta give kudos. You wouldn't think you're buying a $500 item when you open the EVGA product. Asus also came with an SLI bridge which I thought was a nice touch, EVGA card did not.
I owned an EVGA GTX 780 ACX SC prior to this but returned it after deciding to buy something online to save a bit of money. This card was a $487 and the EVGA was like $560 after tax.
While I think the EVGA card looks nicer that's about the only thing I can count in its favor. Granted, it's clocked faster from the factory (hence: superclocked) but I was only able to get a stable GPU OC of around +40Mhz above stock. I'm sitting pretty at roughly +222Mhz on the Asus and I feel like it's much quieter.
This ok?
I also must say that the Asus packaging is FAR superior to EVGA's. Not that it matters really but I gotta give kudos. You wouldn't think you're buying a $500 item when you open the EVGA product. Asus also came with an SLI bridge which I thought was a nice touch, EVGA card did not.
I've used this method to install all of my more recent rigs. Very sure I made more than one 64-bit bootable USB from my 32-bit Atom-powered server.
If you go this route, the "active" command is which makes your USB drive bootable and make sure to copy over the hidden files from the DVD/ISO.
No reason to not run an as small as possible pagefile on your SSD (set it manually to 0, Windows will complain that it needs at least x, set it to that value)
If for some reason you do actually need more swap space, put it on a secondary drive.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well update on my situation:
Got new P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1) to replace my fire-killed one and set everything up and after some BIOS updating my new i5 3570k worked with it when I had it outside the case testing with the PSU. So after putting everything together i get a Overclocking Failed! error and the Boot device LED on the motherboard is on. Anything that can be causing this? Everything seems to be plugged in properly and I popped the i3 I was upgrading from back in to see if it was the i5 but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Full specs atm: Intel Core i5 3570K / G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 / ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67 / MSI Gaming N760 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 4GB / Antec BP550 Plus /
NZXT Source 210 Elite/ WD 1.5 TB HDD Black
BIOS screen with some info:
Starting to think it'd be easier to return the 3570K and get a newer mobo with the appropriate i5 for it.
Got new P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1) to replace my fire-killed one and set everything up and after some BIOS updating my new i5 3570k worked with it when I had it outside the case testing with the PSU. So after putting everything together i get a Overclocking Failed! error and the Boot device LED on the motherboard is on. Anything that can be causing this? Everything seems to be plugged in properly and I popped the i3 I was upgrading from back in to see if it was the i5 but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Full specs atm: Intel Core i5 3570K / G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 / ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67 / MSI Gaming N760 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 4GB / Antec BP550 Plus /
NZXT Source 210 Elite/ WD 1.5 TB HDD Black
BIOS screen with some info:
Starting to think it'd be easier to return the 3570K and get a newer mobo with the appropriate i5 for it.
Garou
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Turning Hibernation off would give you a LOT of space back.
The previous owner probably just didn't set the BIOS back to default before shipping it out.Well update on my situation:
Got new P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1) to replace my fire-killed one and set everything up and after some BIOS updating my new i5 3570k worked with it when I had it outside the case testing with the PSU. So after putting everything together i get a Overclocking Failed! error and the Boot device LED on the motherboard is on. Anything that can be causing this? Everything seems to be plugged in properly and I popped the i3 I was upgrading from back in to see if it was the i5 but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Full specs atm: Intel Core i5 3570K / G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 / ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67 / MSI Gaming N760 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 4GB / Antec BP550 Plus /
NZXT Source 210 Elite/ WD 1.5 TB HDD Black
BIOS screen with some info:
Starting to think it'd be easier to return the 3570K and get a newer mobo with the appropriate i5 for it.
Go ahead and restore default settings in the BIOS if you haven't. You can also use the CMOS reset jumper.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Tried that and it seems to just do the same, but selecting boot from the BIOS and click my harddrive seems to make it actually start but I don't know if this is safe or not.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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Post a screenshot of the the Information > Software screen from CCC, just to see if the driver installed properly.
reinstalling at the moment, will see how it is after.
edit: seems to be fine now after reinstall.
It's an error that ASUS likes to throw when it can't load previous settings as well (not just overclock).
You can try changing these settings and see if it drops the error. (It also might give it to you if you shutdown in BIOS without restarting, or from hard power offs).
Clear RTC RAM (Jumper)
and/or
Disable "Internal PLL Overvoltage" (BIOS)
and/or
Advanced>APM> Enable the wake on PCIe. (BIOS)
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Poster child upgrade RIP.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well update to this is that the computer runs perfectly, but it requires me to push my heatsink into my board a bit more when booting and then using the bios to select my harddrive to boot. Once I'm in Windows everything was slow at first but after some driver installing and rebooting a few times I solved it somehow just through regular use. Tested the heat with RealTemp since i was conserned about having to push the heat sink into a little on boot and it's going low 40's just doing regular stuff and 55-60 while playing Metal Gear Rising with Zangeki and other stuff all turned up. Not sure if this is safe still but I'd like some opinions.
If it's the stock intel cooler I would remount it and make sure all the push pins go through the motherboard and that the pins are LOCKED when you push them in.
You only unlock them to unmount it and it's easy enough to have one teeter inbetween and not stay solid.
Load temps on CPU are fine. <70C load won't do any harm.
lensoftruth
Member
New catalyst? don't suppose they've fix the HDMI bug that pops up every other driver release?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Great that this is finally over then! Going to try your thing above when I put this back in my room.
Sadly I'm in the market for a new monitor now since my roommate knocked my PSU into it while I let him take a look. It's mostly fine but that scratch in the middle is unsightly so I'm going to look at low lag 1080p monitors now. RIP my money.
neurosisxeno
Member
Manufacturing 8 core CPU's at 22nm is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. There is so much that can go wrong in clean rooms, especially when dealing with technology that is so sensative. A single FM incident could cost them hundreds of chips that otherwise would have been perfectly good. They rigerously test everything, so anything that has 6/8 working cores is worth shipping out for some kind of revenue instead of tossing out.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I tried all these and they don't seem to fix anything. I think it might be a bug with the mobo? Well I can boot from the BIOS anyways so I don't care too much.
michaelius
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Not sure if you've seen this - did a search of 5960 but couldn't find anything.
Thought you might find it useful
http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-...ations-unveiled-flagship-8-core-boost-33-ghz/
5820k gives me a lot of hope.
They castrated pci lanes in it in to make it diffrent from 5930 which is zero loss for single gpu configs.
We might have a new i7 920 in the making
Honey Bunny
Member
Is the Asus PB278Q still a good choice for a 1440p monitor with pivot? There don't seem to be many new ones.
Woffls
Member
My 8800GT just kicked it - looks like overheating. I've got old hardware so I don't know if it's worth going up to a 760 from the 750 Ti OC for an extra £50. It will be limited by a Q6600 and DDR2, but I have a good SSD and PSU. Any advice? Thanks. Is it also worth considering the R9 270X?
Demon Lizardman
Banned
I heard somewhere that Intels devils canyon might be delayed to much later, anybody else recommend something that's closer or more powerful than it?
What's your budget for it?
You'll be limited in some games yes (especially if it's not OC'd), and not in others. It varies from title to title.
Any GPU upgrade will still be appreciable though.
Cosmic Schwung
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Looks like Titan Zs are available to those well off or crazy enough to buy one. A little under £2400 here in the UK.
Demon Lizardman
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I mean what is the next best thing?
4670K, 4770K. Which are what DC will be replacing.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
and 4770 k is out right?
if so, what is a recommended build with a 4770k processor with a 2000 dollar budget?
justsomeguy
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Well I FINALLY solved this issue - posting here in case anyone else hits it. I had my PC Speaker (the beep, I guess) set to play through those speakers, on top of the line in, onboard audio, cd audio, etc. I unticked the option, and miraculously the hissing stopped. I can only assume I was missing a cable on the mobo so it was only picking up static.
justsomeguy
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I think there might be a formatting error between mobile-gaf and full sized gaf... I just clicked my m.neogaf link on a desktop machine and it took me to the OP instead of the post I wanted to link to.
For non-mobile gaf the link is : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=101813771&postcount=5520 - there's a link to imgur on there with that case in. It's a gorgeous build.
Sectorseven
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Where did you hear this, because the company that accidentally (and correctly) released the Haswell refresh info a few weeks before release did the same for Devil's Canyon a few days ago.
Automatisch
Member
If you're worried about DC just wait a week. We will likely at the very least know a release date during Computex.
Woffls
Member
Most I'll spend is ~£150 considering how little use it will get. Whether I spend the extra on a card depends upon how my current components impact the performance, like if I need the extra power to compensate for the CPU, or more memory to avoid using slow ass DDR2 - and if my mobo (P5Ne SLI) even supports that kind of bandwidth.
It's important for the card to be quiet as well, especially whilst idling.
Big Takeover
Member
That site's reputation is garbage. They're going to be officially announced on Monday, and we'll find out when we can buy them then. I'm still fully expecting that to be June. You've got all these mobo manufacturers holding off their OC boards for Computex. They're not waiting around four months for the chips. Hell, we've already got Z97 on the market for no reason whatsoever. They need to provide chips now, and I think they will.
Demon Lizardman
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I hope your right man, I don't want to wait till September to build my PC.
Help me PCGaf!
My 4 year old laptop is on its last legs, requiring ice packs to keep the battery from melting a hole in the casing. I live in Japan and want to buy a desktop...any ideas? I want to use it for gaming, ideally playing the latest games with decent-to-high settings.
I've been looking at dospara and mouse computer...any other ideas??
What about these two setups?
http://www.g-tune.jp/desktop/standard_model_corei7/i840ga4.html
http://www.g-tune.jp/desktop/masterpiece_2/i1440ga1_doc_cl.html
My 4 year old laptop is on its last legs, requiring ice packs to keep the battery from melting a hole in the casing. I live in Japan and want to buy a desktop...any ideas? I want to use it for gaming, ideally playing the latest games with decent-to-high settings.
I've been looking at dospara and mouse computer...any other ideas??
What about these two setups?
http://www.g-tune.jp/desktop/standard_model_corei7/i840ga4.html
http://www.g-tune.jp/desktop/masterpiece_2/i1440ga1_doc_cl.html
If quiet is important hard to go wrong with this for £130 plus two games http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker
Their 760 is also v. quiet but it's over the £150 mark. Sapphire has a 270X for the same price as that 270 but I don't think it's as quiet.
I was going to say those are nicely spec'd out, but no SSD on either of them? Unless I'm missing something.
Also how much do those cost? Any reason why you can't build one yourself?
Automatisch
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If you can't wait just buy a 4770K, it's not like it's a bad CPU because of DC's existence.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Well that is what I might do if they actually delay DC.
First is 1380GBP/2260USD
Second is 1470GBP/2450USD
I don't want to build as I'm in Japan and worry about warranties and messing something up. Plus my hosue is carpeted and I know I'd end up destroying something during the build.
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