adamantypants
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Well that's not unlike the Mac Pro trash cans. And those come with Xeons and decent video cards. They also run for $3000 though, up to nearly $7000.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Well that's not unlike the Mac Pro trash cans. And those come with Xeons and decent video cards. They also run for $3000 though, up to nearly $7000.
michaelius
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Direct airflow= direct noise
Perfect for my toddler.Nope. Way too crammed for my liking, and not enough direct airflow. It's good, but not quite as powerful.
@Kennah
for ITX
WonkyPanda
Member
I can't figure out why my w8 has an excruciatingly slow boot once I get into the OS. I'm talking things like apps being unresponsive. For example once I get into the desktop, it takes a good 1m until I can launch Chrome.
I've defragged, run chkdsk, and done general cleaning utilities. I recently upped my page file, which seemed low, and that helped a little bit. Maybe shaved about 15-20 seconds off.
I have a WD black 1TB
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Once that's done though, my system runs perfectly fine. Games load great, things run smoothly, etc.
I've defragged, run chkdsk, and done general cleaning utilities. I recently upped my page file, which seemed low, and that helped a little bit. Maybe shaved about 15-20 seconds off.
I have a WD black 1TB
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Once that's done though, my system runs perfectly fine. Games load great, things run smoothly, etc.
phxxBullet
Banned
Uuuh, smexy. Thanks for that photo.I like it, and it's not a bad size either:
Welp, all those new mATX and mITX cases ain't making it easier to decide which case to get in summer/fall..
true, I don't like the measurements of the 804.
No idea about Notebooks, even less about MacBooks, but I wouldn't use them for anything else than browsing and stuff like MS WORD or iTunes.
Then again, I'm not going to spend half the price of a car for a "Pro"book.
It's a shame they look so gorgeous
I suppose.
But who I see the Air 540 catering to is the super high end air cooler crowd that need good airflow for their 2-3 video cards. The other people would be like myself, water coolers. I have two 280mm rads and my fans are spinning at ~600 RPM most of the time, never exceeding 800 RPM. The amount of hardware you can fit in that footprint is just amazing. The huge space in the back allows for mounting a reservoir/pump, or just doing a half assed job at cable management and having it come out perfect.
The Node can do a lot of that, but not nearly as easily. After doing a countless number of builds, ease of use is becoming more and more important to me.
Demon Lizardman
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Also, would you say that Amazon has better prices than sites like Newegg?
Total tossup. If you have Prime, then Amazon becomes a lot more attractive. Both price match each other though.
Everyone who is not Phanteks should just quit now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nPVLuWFNo
If the Pro is $90, this will probably be $80? I would buy this instantly if moving cases over wasn't a complete pain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nPVLuWFNo
If the Pro is $90, this will probably be $80? I would buy this instantly if moving cases over wasn't a complete pain.
Wait a fucking second... if my motherboard (Gigabyte H87-HD3) doesn't come with the latest BIOS update on board (which I fear might be the case even though I just bought it new), can it even use the Xeon 1231v3? How am I even supposed to update it without a normal Haswell processor in that case?
Demon Lizardman
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My parents have prime and said that I could add my credit to their account for the payment.
RealityPales
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Thanks so much for this! This is what I was thinking:
Would you have any other recommendations for a PC noob? lol
adamantypants
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Everyone who is not Phanteks should just quit now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nPVLuWFNo
If the Pro is $90, this will probably be $80? I would buy this instantly if moving cases over wasn't a complete pain.
I love that it's called the Mini XL
There is a GAFer in Chicago who has offered to build for folks. Or take Kennah up on his offer.
If you want a place that you can just return it to, I understand. But you get a *lot* more for your money at that price point.
phxxBullet
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DL on USB or a disk and update?
Not sure though, I' a noob when it's about BIOS. At least that what should work with any newer mainboards.
You need a proc in it in order to get into BIOS to update it though. I'd contact Gigabyte.
How can you update a motherboard without a compatible CPU? It wouldn't even boot.
My SN starts with 1410 which supposedly means 10th week of 2014, I hope that's new enough to get the new BIOS since the whole thing was announced in February...
phxxBullet
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Afaik there are some (maybe many?) mainboards that let you update via a bootdisk/USB without any CPU installed. ASUS at least offers some boards that do that.
The RoG series is about it, AFAIK.
phxxBullet
Banned
Mhm could be about right there.
I just know for sure that with some it works, as a friend of mine used my notebook to DL a newer BIOS version on his USB and updated his BIOS, with nothing installed but his PSU and the board itself.
Don't ask me which board though.
// Just found this:
http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/usb_bios_flashback_guide/
No idea if something like this is available for the Gigabyte one.
Mac Pros are not Macbooks/laptops/notebooks.
phxxBullet
Banned
I somehow read MacBook, and assumed it was about the Pro.. my fault there.
Thanks so much for this! This is what I was thinking:
Would you have any other recommendations for a PC noob? lol
Get a 4770K, and get their free 10% overclock added.
Change to a Z87 motherboard, like the Asus Z87-A.
Add the Hyper 212 CPU cooler.
Do you really need the DVD writer?
Query what that 700w unit is before doing anything to ensure it's not some piece of junk.
Wouldn't go for that case either.
$2088 on the dot for this
If you wanted to build yourself however this is what you'd get just for comparisons sake
Also note there is a new revised Core i7 on the way very soon. Well worth the wait. SSD in this btw should be the Crucial MX100, not the M500. New model doesn't show up in PCPartPicker yet, but they're the same price.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($333.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($133.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout with Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1579.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 17:43 EDT-0400)
That is a fair point. That's got to be worth a couple of hundred dollahs.
phxxBullet
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I'm just curious, is there anything in the 150 / 150$ price range
that would be as good or better than a LG Flatron W2361V ?
21,5" - 23", 1080p, 60hz.
( prices are almost 1:1, maybe even 1,5:1 with tax here..)
21,5" - 23", 1080p, 60hz.
Infinite Justice
Member
I laughed when i saw that
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Thanks for the advice!
Asus X79 board all have USB BIOS Flashback, however to update from SB-E BIOS to IVY-E BIOS you still need a CPU installed.
Sadly that doesn't help me since I have a Gigabyte board, all I can do is pray that it already has the new BIOS on it and works somehow, otherwise I'll lose a lot of time, nerves and money sending that shit back and getting it replaced with something that works
If the BIOS chip isnt removable you may have to send the board to Gigabyte, thats if they will do it for you though. One of the best things about Asrock is that their boards mostly have removable chips and you can get pre-programmed ones from them or ebay.
No, if it comes down to incompatibility, I'm more likely to get a refund and buy a similarly priced board that is compatible out of the box. I'm not going to deal with that sort of shit, it will take ages.
Wafflecakes
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Ok. Some explanation.... I have had blue screens of death a couple times a week since I had the PC I am using built a couple years ago. These always occur when I am multitasking in some way.
I could not really worry about it since I was a full time college student, and I just learned to save often.
Now they are accelerating to 4-5 times a day. I am almost certain that it is a hardware problem since it has persisted through at least 5 windows reinstalls over the last few years.
What is most likely the issue do you think? I am thinking of upgrading my box, and I figure I may as well fix whatever is most likely causing the issue while I am at it.
I could not really worry about it since I was a full time college student, and I just learned to save often.
Now they are accelerating to 4-5 times a day. I am almost certain that it is a hardware problem since it has persisted through at least 5 windows reinstalls over the last few years.
What is most likely the issue do you think? I am thinking of upgrading my box, and I figure I may as well fix whatever is most likely causing the issue while I am at it.
Could be bad RAM. Have you tried running memtest86+?
Wafflecakes
Member
No idea what that is, but I will google it.
Just take it to a local shop and offer them like $10 or something to update the bios for you. Many would do it for free.
I don't know what kind of shops you know, but I can't think of any that would put in a Haswell processor (messing around with thermal paste), connect the whole thing to a PSU, graphics card and screen, and update the drivers... for free, or anything less than a business hourly rate.
www.memtest.org
Just download the most recent auto-installer for usb key, which makes it a bootable drive. Shut down your PC, make sure it boots from the usb drive when you turn it back on. Run the test for a night. If you get errors, you have a bad RAM stick..
ItsGeeMcGee
Member
Is it the memory management BSOD?
Many would do it as a gesture of goodwill to get future business. Pretty much any shop will have all of that stuff within easy access for testing/loading. And you don't need fresh paste on something to update a BIOS.
Sectorseven
Member
How does this sound for a stock trading build (six monitors, no gaming).
Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $134.98
Stock Cooler $0.00
Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $124.98
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $79.99
Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $70.13
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $37.99
Antec 450W ATX Power Supply $34.99
TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $38.57
Total: $656.60
Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $134.98
Stock Cooler $0.00
Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $124.98
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $79.99
Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $70.13
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card $44.99
NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $37.99
Antec 450W ATX Power Supply $34.99
TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $38.57
Total: $656.60
Wafflecakes
Member
ItsGeeMcGee
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I was able to fix a similar problem by pulling memory out in pairs (or one at a time if you've only got two sticks) to isolate the faulty part. I couldn't get memtest86 to run so had to trial and error it
Rather fit another rad
Seriously what's the best/ most balanced 2TB HDD for gaming right now? I was told to stay away from Seagate as they have a high failure rate and losing all my data sounds like a nightmare, so far I know this:
-WD blue 1TB: I could go for this one, cheap, reliable, relatively fast and doesn't consume much power. The thing is that I'll probably need more space since games are so heavy nowadays.
-WD green 2TB: very cheap, reliable, but is it that slow for gaming?
-WD Black 2TB: I'm told it's very reliable (5 years warranty), faster, but I've heard it's very loud, consumes more power, and it's very expensive.
-WD blue 1TB: I could go for this one, cheap, reliable, relatively fast and doesn't consume much power. The thing is that I'll probably need more space since games are so heavy nowadays.
-WD green 2TB: very cheap, reliable, but is it that slow for gaming?
-WD Black 2TB: I'm told it's very reliable (5 years warranty), faster, but I've heard it's very loud, consumes more power, and it's very expensive.
From B/S/T thread:
WTS
2x EVGA GTX 780Tis. Still under warranty. I still have the original boxes (excuse the SSD):
I will also throw in a download code for Watch_Dogs
Pricing:
1x 780ti + Watch_Dogs - $560 ($550 + $10 shipping)SOLD
1x 780ti + Watch_Dogs - $560
Paypal please. I am a good seller, have done plenty of business here over the years. If you have any questions, please PM me.
I have one GTX 780Ti left. Sorry not trying to spam, but cross posting in here has gotten me quite a few hits.
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