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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I just did that (didn't uninstall anything, I just installed the file and rebooted)... nothing
What is going on ._.Reposting my build for verification and I'm off to place orders:
Asus Maximus VI Hero
CPU: i5 4670K
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB or EVGA GTX 770 4GB (04G-P4-3776-KR)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8GB 1600 MHz 1.5V
Storage: 120GB 840 EVO and WD Blue 1TB
PSU: Seasonic G-650 (SSR-650RM)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Arctic White
And a couple of questions:
1. Which GPU should I take? Just go for the cheapest of them? Or maybe something else than those two?
2. Do I need any additional cooling if I don't plan to overclock anything in the nearest future?
3. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is 650W PSU enough?
4. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is this case big enough to hold additional cooling?
5. Did I miss something? This is my first time building my own PC
Asus Maximus VI Hero
CPU: i5 4670K
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB or EVGA GTX 770 4GB (04G-P4-3776-KR)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8GB 1600 MHz 1.5V
Storage: 120GB 840 EVO and WD Blue 1TB
PSU: Seasonic G-650 (SSR-650RM)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Arctic White
And a couple of questions:
1. Which GPU should I take? Just go for the cheapest of them? Or maybe something else than those two?
2. Do I need any additional cooling if I don't plan to overclock anything in the nearest future?
3. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is 650W PSU enough?
4. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is this case big enough to hold additional cooling?
5. Did I miss something? This is my first time building my own PC
1. As an owner of a Windforce I'd still have to say the EVGA ACX, that cooler is really fantastic. You won't go far wrong with either though so if the price difference is large the windforce is also fine.Reposting my build for verification and I'm off to place orders:
Asus Maximus VI Hero
CPU: i5 4670K
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB or EVGA GTX 770 4GB (04G-P4-3776-KR)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8GB 1600 MHz 1.5V
Storage: 120GB 840 EVO and WD Blue 1TB
PSU: Seasonic G-650 (SSR-650RM)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Arctic White
And a couple of questions:
1. Which GPU should I take? Just go for the cheapest of them? Or maybe something else than those two?
2. Do I need any additional cooling if I don't plan to overclock anything in the nearest future?
3. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is 650W PSU enough?
4. If I wanted to overclock this build further down the road is this case big enough to hold additional cooling?
5. Did I miss something? This is my first time building my own PC
2. You don't -need- it, but a Hyper 212 Evo/Plus is an inexpensive way to keep your cpu cool and quiet, and ready for future overclocking.
3. It should be more than enough for a single card, not so sure about if you went SLI later on.
4. The R4 is a fantastic case which should have room for everything you want unless you wanted to go for a large radiator custom liquid cooling loop.
5. As long as you have a copy of windows (and an optical drive if you're not installing over USB), monitor, speakers/headphones, keyboard and mouse you should be set!
Is there any reason why specifically the XFX and the MSI models? If you're asking for 280X or 770 in general there are many other options besides those.
IT'S ALIVE!!
Started at 10.30 and just now finished installing all software, drivers etc. So far it looks like it went without a hitch, so gonna do a game test to see how the graphics card works
Thanks for the help and advice about parts along the way guys, couldn't have done it without this thread
Cable management could do with some improvement. The system is extremely quiet, not used to having a quiet desktop, all my old ones were loud and so is the ones I use at work!
Started at 10.30 and just now finished installing all software, drivers etc. So far it looks like it went without a hitch, so gonna do a game test to see how the graphics card works
Thanks for the help and advice about parts along the way guys, couldn't have done it without this thread
Cable management could do with some improvement. The system is extremely quiet, not used to having a quiet desktop, all my old ones were loud and so is the ones I use at work!
Those have discount in chile, but if you have any suggestion about models, I'd really appreciate it.
chaosblade
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You can't really go wrong with either if they are about the same price. I'd lean toward the 770 if you're playing at 1080p since it's only real downside is the 2GB VRAM versus 3GB in the 280X. 770 is probably a bit faster due to it's factory OC, has a better cooler, and you get the extra NVidia features. Plus MSI is generally considered a better brand than XFX.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Finally got money to upgrade my graphics card.
How important is the ram on it these days? Would it be silly to buy a ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 (2 GB) intead of ASUS GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 (3 GB)?
How important is the ram on it these days? Would it be silly to buy a ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 (2 GB) intead of ASUS GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 (3 GB)?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
2GB+ should be good for 1080p for a couple years at least, I'd guess. More would definitely be better and I'd lean toward the 280X in this case assuming you live somewhere that has them for reasonable prices.
does anyone have the CM Storm QuickFire?
i'm looking in to switching out my Logitech G710+ for the MX Cherry Brown QuickFire Rapid.
i'm realizing i don't need a full keyboard and could do with a little more desk space. just curious about general impressions from an actual owner.
i'm looking in to switching out my Logitech G710+ for the MX Cherry Brown QuickFire Rapid.
i'm realizing i don't need a full keyboard and could do with a little more desk space. just curious about general impressions from an actual owner.
Takeda Kenshi
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Quoting for a new page. Any help would be appreciated.
I need to upgrade my RAM from 4GB to 8GB, but have a question. My MB is a MSI P67A-G45 (B3), and on both the newegg page for it it and the official MSI site it lists the RAM as:
With no indication what the asterisks mean. I'm assuming it's related to overclocking, but want to be sure before I try to buy 1600 RAM over 1333.
With no indication what the asterisks mean. I'm assuming it's related to overclocking, but want to be sure before I try to buy 1600 RAM over 1333.
chaosblade
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Doesn't use 1600 by default, so you will need to "overclock" the RAM to run it at the rated speed.
BladeSinner
Neo Member
Alright so just ordered all of the following
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core $244.30
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM $44.51
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g $6.73
Motherboard Asus MAXIMUS VI IMPACT Mini ITX LGA1150 $209.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $144.99
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD $169.98
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.66
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB $499.99
Case EVGA Hadron Mini ITX Tower w/500W Power Supply $152.58
Can I still get away with using Windows 7? Or is Windows 8 a must now?
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core $244.30
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM $44.51
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g $6.73
Motherboard Asus MAXIMUS VI IMPACT Mini ITX LGA1150 $209.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $144.99
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD $169.98
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.66
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB $499.99
Case EVGA Hadron Mini ITX Tower w/500W Power Supply $152.58
Can I still get away with using Windows 7? Or is Windows 8 a must now?
I ahe one and I like it a lot. But it is also my first mechanical in 15 years. Works a lot better than my Logitech solar.
It's serviceable. Looks fine, plenty of space inside to do the actual installation. Temps seem standard, though i'm not overclocking so I cant say how the cooling will be for that.
I like stuff that's plain and not garish, so this fit the bill for me.
What do you guys think of that bundle?
From what I can see in the OP, this is one of the recommended CPU and the mobo is close to the one recommended? What's the big differences between that model and the MPower/XPower ones?
http://products.ncix.com/detail/ncix-bundle-deal-msi-z87-g45-gaming-atx-motherboard-intel-core-i5-4670k-quad-core-processor-a6-85023-1101.htm
From what I can see in the OP, this is one of the recommended CPU and the mobo is close to the one recommended? What's the big differences between that model and the MPower/XPower ones?
http://products.ncix.com/detail/ncix-bundle-deal-msi-z87-g45-gaming-atx-motherboard-intel-core-i5-4670k-quad-core-processor-a6-85023-1101.htm
If you already own 7 stick with it. If not then buy 8 or 8.1 if you're starting from scratch.
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The Everyman
for sure.
Broder Salsa
Banned
I would really prefer a nvidia card.
Get the 780 then. I'm not that keen on the 770, not as good value as a 760 is. What do you have at the minute Wooden?
AMDs stuff is good though. Drivers aren't an issue if that's what you're worried about, AMDs just aren't quite as feature rich.
The 280X, 290 and 290X are all great but so is the 780. Plus Nvidia does have G-Sync, Shadow Play, native downsampling and some other nice bits that AMD doesn't offer.
I think my gtx580 3gb is finally showing it's age. Not getting the performance I want out of it anymore. Blacklist only runs 30-55 or so maxed out. Frame drops. All of that good stuff. I was thinking of over clocking my 2500k with the hyper 212 cooler and getting my ram up to 16gb from 8. Speaking of over clocking that sandy bridge overclock link in the race your PC thread is down for me when I tried it. I only game at 1080p and plan on it for the foreseeable future, would a 780 be a good upgrade? I wonder because I haven't read any news about the 800 series coming soon.
Broder Salsa
Banned
A fucking GTX570, so about time. Will try to sell it.
Not worried about drivers, I just really want shadowplay.
You'll still get good money for a 570. Aye Shadowplay is nice, try and find a nice 780 would be what I'd do.
Overclock yes, more RAM no.
780 is great but there will be new cards nearer the end of the year, but it's still a while off and we don't know what they'll be like.
Ah ok - I was labouring under the impression that mini-ITX was a distinct spec from ITX. 580 is a PNY if that helps.
Thanks again!
IcyRhythms
Member
Guys, I am looking for a nice set of headphones for under $200. I'm not really looking to spend more than that. They'll be used for music and gaming. I've had my eye on the Sennheiser 598's for a few days now. I understand the VMODA's have excellent sound as well as build quality.
If it helps anyone help me, comfort is a HUGE factor for me.
If it helps anyone help me, comfort is a HUGE factor for me.
Thaedolus
Member
So I've got a nearly three year old build. The other day my Evga GTX570 superclocked card blew up...like literally started smoking. Ok, well, that's what I get for overclocking it too hard right?
I ordered a new EVGA GTX760 superclocked from amazon, it arrived today. Swapped the card out, no video. Computer boots and I hear the windows chime, but no video whatsoever. I tried every video output, nada. Now, I've been running an old GTX260 in the meantime, and have it running right now, so I know it's nothing else in the rig.
I don't have another rig to test the new card in. EVGA thinks it's probably my motherboard being too old or my UEFI being out of date. Motherboard is an ASRock P67 Extreme4, not that fucking old. I've been doing some googling and the only answer I've found is some guy said he got UEFI 3.25 from ASRock directly, the latest version they list is 3.19 on their website. I can't contact the guy because it's on a forum I'm not a member of, and ASRock is on goddamn two weeks off for Chinese New Year. The only thing I can find is the 3.25 uefi for the Pro3 version of the P67...I'm not going to use the wrong version and brick my motherboard unless I'm positive it will work.
Anyone got any ideas? Is this a known issue with the P67 Extreme4?
I ordered a new EVGA GTX760 superclocked from amazon, it arrived today. Swapped the card out, no video. Computer boots and I hear the windows chime, but no video whatsoever. I tried every video output, nada. Now, I've been running an old GTX260 in the meantime, and have it running right now, so I know it's nothing else in the rig.
I don't have another rig to test the new card in. EVGA thinks it's probably my motherboard being too old or my UEFI being out of date. Motherboard is an ASRock P67 Extreme4, not that fucking old. I've been doing some googling and the only answer I've found is some guy said he got UEFI 3.25 from ASRock directly, the latest version they list is 3.19 on their website. I can't contact the guy because it's on a forum I'm not a member of, and ASRock is on goddamn two weeks off for Chinese New Year. The only thing I can find is the 3.25 uefi for the Pro3 version of the P67...I'm not going to use the wrong version and brick my motherboard unless I'm positive it will work.
Anyone got any ideas? Is this a known issue with the P67 Extreme4?
I would've tried RMAing your 570 but any way.
Your motherboard is fine, I'd imagine EVGA are mistaken. Did you remove the old drivers before putting the new card in?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
For what it's worth, I think that's the same motherboard I have (P67 Extreme4 Gen3).
I popped a MSI 760 in there and it worked with no problems.
I popped a MSI 760 in there and it worked with no problems.
I would definitely go with 598's or maybe AKG Q701's (which are $200.) 598's are supposedly very comfortable, I have 558's (which are extremely comfortable) and 598's are apparently even more comfortable. In terms of sound quality, they're both neutral, so they won't be really exciting if you listen to a lot of bass heavy stuff, but they sound really great otherwise. For gaming, the 598's have good positional audio, but I've read that the Q701 is unparalleled when it comes to positional audio. The only downside of the AKG's is that you'll need a pretty decent soundcard or amp to power them.
Thaedolus
Member
Yes. I don't even get display from the post screen or windows bootup either. While on the phone with EVGA support I asked and my 570 is still under warranty, so I'm gonna RMA that too. Maybe just end up getting a refund on the 760...
Mine isn't the gen 3, but it just seems super unlikely that it wouldn't be compatible...it's only a few years old. I'm contacting amazon to get an exchange
Well, all done for the time being. Next upgrade will be a new GPU in 2015 I think.
Modular is so damn nice. Entire rig probably lost 3 lb of weight, and cables are so much nicer now (still not perfect, but whatever).
Next case will probably drop the DVD drive entirely and go bayless somehow...
Modular is so damn nice. Entire rig probably lost 3 lb of weight, and cables are so much nicer now (still not perfect, but whatever).
Next case will probably drop the DVD drive entirely and go bayless somehow...
OminoMichelin
Member
No one
Sorry man, not much we can do from over here...try to talk to a tachnician in person, he might be able to determine if the adapter itself is working or not.
Really thanks for helping me, i think i will pick GTX770
Yeah 770 is best in this case, I couldn't recommend an XFX card.
whitemex88
Member
love that case. what is it?
MonkeyMan29
Member
PCGaf quick question. I have a pretty good idea when it comes to picking parts to build a PC, and putting things together, but not a whole lot when it comes to building a PC, that is primarily for gaming.
This barebones build? Start with this and add on extra RAM and a graphics card. Which is where my biggest issue crops up. I have no idea what is good.
Also, what the the support for controllers like? Is pretty much everything plug in play? Never been much of a fan for mouse and keyboard.
This barebones build? Start with this and add on extra RAM and a graphics card. Which is where my biggest issue crops up. I have no idea what is good.
Also, what the the support for controllers like? Is pretty much everything plug in play? Never been much of a fan for mouse and keyboard.
I have a quickfire at the office and a razer black widow at home with the same mx blue switches and I like the quickfire better since there are fewer frills and the soft touch plastic is great.
I don't find myself using all the macro buttons on the razer and most everything else is the same. for the cost I don't think it can really be beat. If you spend more money you can get upgrades like laser etched keys (so the letters/numbers won't wear out over years of typing) and backlights and whatnot.
Oh my, I am so glad I decided at the last minute to not buy a R9 290 and get a GTX 780 instead. This Wednesday just passed Scan UK had the MSI Gaming Edition OC for £360 and couldn't resist.
Yes the R9 probably could be faster (especially with Mantle etc), but using a 7970 before and I couldn't get stuff like Downsampling, adaptive Vsync etc working (Via RadeonPro which only worked when it wanted) properly.
Now I have a set of downsampled resolution list active and working from 4K downwards, Adaptive Vsync actually works, meaning I get no mouse lag and 60FPS locked in most games (Of course with the unlock for when my GPU struggles) and of course can now use Shadowplay etc.
The only thing I had to do was head off to change the BIOS as MSI set the power limit to 103%, meaning some games didn't like me setting the clocks too high as it hits the power limits before any clock limits. While this thing can run 3DMark at 1200Mhz, it is very unstable in games so I use 1150Mhz for gaming purposes and it appears to be happy.
It's easily the most expensive card I have owned, but really does appear to be worth it. Playing Warframe in 4K downsampled is a joy, and older games will easily play at that resolution, making for good times.
Now, to try to hit 10k in 3DMark...yes probably insane, but I'm up to 9600 and just want to see if I can do it.
Yes the R9 probably could be faster (especially with Mantle etc), but using a 7970 before and I couldn't get stuff like Downsampling, adaptive Vsync etc working (Via RadeonPro which only worked when it wanted) properly.
Now I have a set of downsampled resolution list active and working from 4K downwards, Adaptive Vsync actually works, meaning I get no mouse lag and 60FPS locked in most games (Of course with the unlock for when my GPU struggles) and of course can now use Shadowplay etc.
The only thing I had to do was head off to change the BIOS as MSI set the power limit to 103%, meaning some games didn't like me setting the clocks too high as it hits the power limits before any clock limits. While this thing can run 3DMark at 1200Mhz, it is very unstable in games so I use 1150Mhz for gaming purposes and it appears to be happy.
It's easily the most expensive card I have owned, but really does appear to be worth it. Playing Warframe in 4K downsampled is a joy, and older games will easily play at that resolution, making for good times.
Now, to try to hit 10k in 3DMark...yes probably insane, but I'm up to 9600 and just want to see if I can do it.
Mediocre CPU, crap PSU, crap case.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $541.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-01 19:40 EST-0500)
$20 more and much better. Stick the pieces together isn't hard. If you live near a Microcenter the CPU is only $180.
As for controllers most titles support them now, the Xbox 360 one is most widely supported and would be my choice therefore. Steam and other digital distributors usually indicate if a game supports a controller or not. You will get smashed online though in FPS if that matters to you using one.
not to mention i just put the same thing together in pccpartpicker for cheaper:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Case: Ultra Gladiator ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Ultra 650W ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $532.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-01 19:41 EST-0500)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Case: Ultra Gladiator ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Ultra 650W ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $532.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-01 19:41 EST-0500)
MonkeyMan29
Member
Okay, well, obviously, I was on the wrong track to begin with. In what way is the i5 superior to FX-8350? Any recommendations on a graphics card?
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