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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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If somehow ChromeOS and SteamOS could be merged I could probably use that as my main OS.
Is that with Lightboost enabled? I have the same monitor and I went from playing in 144hz mode to 120hz with Lightboost and all but eliminated blur. I think the trade-off is a fraction more input lag, but with 1ms to start with it's hardly a big deal.
longnosedgoblin
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Yes they only fluctuate one or two rpm.
Yeah, it's an issue of people being accustomed to a certain visual style. Probably a lot of kids who don't really remember using CRTs, or they're part of the generation that thinks "Motion Blur" is a neat graphic option.
There's some really neat Sony TVs that have.... VA or IPS panels (can't remember which) but strobe as well at 60Hz and do have reduced motion blur.
http://www.blurbusters.com/new-sony-hdtvs-with-motionflow-impulse-sony-lightboost-equivalent/
There's a 30" one that includes this setting, I can't remember the exact model at the moment though.
GTX 760
Try it in a different PCI-E slot.
Well, that explains some stuff. And yeah, I have one of those new sony TVs and that one doesn't bother me nearly as much.
If sony can do it on a 60hz tv... there is hope one of the monitor manufacturers will find out how to make something similar for a 60hz monitor, right? One can only hope.
We'd probably already have something like that if it wasn't for the fact that 99% of costumers don't give a shit. So yeah, now the industry only focused on better colours, higher resolutions, 4K etc
It bothers me that we still have to deal with blurring. It really does. 120hz + lightboost isn't a solution, you lose too much and I don't like the requirement of 120fps. A regular single gpu pc isn't made to maintain 120fps. It's already difficult enough to maintain 60fps in some newer games. I guess it's ok if you have money for an SLI system or you can live with medium graphics but I can't
I was already happy with the 120hz performance without lightboost tbh. This specific monitor had some overshoot issues though, but you could fix that when you disabled OD. Still, main issue was the 120fps. I couldn't maintain it since I'm a freak when it comes to max graphics and stable fps. It was all over the place all the time.
MidgarBlowedUp
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360 works great, never tried DS4 though.
Do I have to buy the Windows version of the controller for it to work with PC?
i also recommend clicking through the affiliate links for either MacMillan cancer or the RNLI on their websites as they get a minimum of 5% of the sale.
MidgarBlowedUp
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I have the "Xbox 360 Wireless Gaming Receiver for Windows" and I'm using a 360 controller that came with the system. There are some fake receivers, but even they will work if you are a little windows savvy.
Here is a link to the details at Microsoft's website.
I've never tried just connecting mine with the USB adapter though.
Grampa Simpson
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If I want to upgrade in two stages:
Graphics Card: 8800GT -> GTX 770
CPU/MB/RAM: Q6600 -> i7-4771
Should I be able to do the Graphics card first, or or is the PCIe 3.0 card going to balk at a PCIe 1.0 slot?
Graphics Card: 8800GT -> GTX 770
CPU/MB/RAM: Q6600 -> i7-4771
Should I be able to do the Graphics card first, or or is the PCIe 3.0 card going to balk at a PCIe 1.0 slot?
RoryDropkick
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Super excited, I'm about to order my new pc parts today!
Nvidia.
Get a 4770K to overclock, and a Z87 mobo with a cooler like a Hyper 212. If you're spending i7 money best to do it right.
PCIe 3 is backwards compatible. It'll not be as quick but it will still work.
That's how I rolled. If going to the Hyper 212, choose your case wisely...it's huge.
What is a reliable way of reading the CPU temp? I have open HWiNFO and it's reporting two different readings, some under 'CPU [#0]' and another under a different header that lists the motherboard and chassis temps. SpeedFan appears to also use the second, hotter, temp for it's reading.
Anyone know which one is accurate?
They are all accurate, they are reporting different things. The first set is reporting the individual CPU core temperatures and the second set is reporting the CPU package temperature (the whole chip rather than just the CPU cores).
You want to look at the CPU cores. They won't all be the same so just go by the hottest one to be safe.
There are very few mid towers that it won't fit in.
AMD is releasing the R7 265, which is essentially a 7850 with Mantle and True-Audio goodness. It's releasing at the end of the month for $150.
A review of the GPU by Tom's Hardware
This is honestly the sweet spot for me price/performance-wise. I'm gonna be one of the first to grab one of these before miners and bullshit retailers cause a mark-up to the thing :/
A review of the GPU by Tom's Hardware
This is honestly the sweet spot for me price/performance-wise. I'm gonna be one of the first to grab one of these before miners and bullshit retailers cause a mark-up to the thing :/
Yeah, I just read it again and there isn't True Audio; I'll edit my post.
mkenyon,
Friend of mine wants to get the Prodigy as well, he's going for the enthusiast with the CM V700.
Now, that fan is bigger than a normal PSU and one user review on the internet shows this:
Guy said it's too long and won't fit but will just use long screws to make sure it can't move anymore.
Friend of mine wants to get the Prodigy as well, he's going for the enthusiast with the CM V700.
Now, that fan is bigger than a normal PSU and one user review on the internet shows this:
Guy said it's too long and won't fit but will just use long screws to make sure it can't move anymore.
Pricing would help here but I'm going to say not really. I doubt it'll ever come to the stage where the 4GB of VRAM on the 760 will truly be all that useful. You'll likely need a new card by that stage. For 1080p 2GB is still totally fine.
XShadows69
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Why is that memory so cheap? Something seems off, it's listed as 2x4, but also as 4x2048mb. If that's a 2x4GB pair, surely that's an absolute steal, especially when faster speeds can be utilized in XMP profiles?
I honestly don't know but I think GAF might have bought out all of them. Its out of stock at this price now
I ended up buying a refurbished XPS 8700 from Dell Outlet using a 25% off coupon.
It has a:
Intel Core 4th Generation i7-4770 Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)
Windows 8
1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
16 GB DDR3 Memory
8X Blu-Ray BD Combo (Blu-ray ROM + DVD+/- RW)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1.0GB GDDR5
For $561 plus tax.
I already have a 240 GB SSD drive, so I'm just going to end up copping a GeForce GTX 760 and call it a day.
Is that a good deal? I still have time to cancel it, but I figured I wouldn't be able to piece something like together for cheaper...
It has a:
Intel Core 4th Generation i7-4770 Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)
Windows 8
1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
16 GB DDR3 Memory
8X Blu-Ray BD Combo (Blu-ray ROM + DVD+/- RW)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1.0GB GDDR5
For $561 plus tax.
I already have a 240 GB SSD drive, so I'm just going to end up copping a GeForce GTX 760 and call it a day.
Is that a good deal? I still have time to cancel it, but I figured I wouldn't be able to piece something like together for cheaper...
Yeah it's a good price. You'll not be able to OC your CPU but it is decent value. Dell's PSUs are generally OK too, 460w in that so it'll handle a 760 fine.
Building yourself you're looking at this roughly
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $537.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-13 11:33 EST-0500)
no copy of Windows though, and you can sell the 650 Ti too from the Dell build.
Building yourself you're looking at this roughly
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $537.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-13 11:33 EST-0500)
no copy of Windows though, and you can sell the 650 Ti too from the Dell build.
It would be about $30-$50 extra.
$299.99 for the 760 and about $339.99 for the 770
770: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CZIQXBA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
760: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIG47BK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Good catch. I had always assumed it was the same size as the Seasonic/Corsair/XFX Pro because they're all the same unit, looks as it is a tad longer than those though. Specs on Newegg confirm that.mkenyon,
Friend of mine wants to get the Prodigy as well, he's going for the enthusiast with the CM V700.
Now, that fan is bigger than a normal PSU and one user review on the internet shows this:
Guy said it's too long and won't fit but will just use long screws to make sure it can't move anymore.
I'd lean towards a 2GB 760 in all honesty.
Interesting. Would you say because it is cheaper and would still give me the power I need? (1080P)
It's a shame, I was looking at it and Cooler Master seems to have really made a fantastic PSU. Impossible to get coil whine, even the Seasonic G-650 has (somewhat small) chance you might get coil whine.
Most PSU's also make some kind of electrical noise if you place your ear close to it, this one doesn't.
Now I want one too even if it is too big
Yep, great bang for buck at $250.
I honestly don't know but I think GAF might have bought out all of them. Its out of stock at this price now
lol Yeah, I should've tried to buy some last night. I checked today, and they were all gone. I think it was an error, honestly.
CitizenVectron
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So since I am selling my 6990 and 6970, I am looking at either a 780 or 780ti as a replacement.
Currently in Canada the 780 sells for around $600 ($547.55 US) and the ti sells for $750-$800 (684.39 - 730.02 US).
Right now the MSI 780ti boost is on for $699 (637.88 US). Is that a pretty good deal? Basically, it means the 780ti is only $90 US more than the 780.
Currently in Canada the 780 sells for around $600 ($547.55 US) and the ti sells for $750-$800 (684.39 - 730.02 US).
Right now the MSI 780ti boost is on for $699 (637.88 US). Is that a pretty good deal? Basically, it means the 780ti is only $90 US more than the 780.
Good unit that.
Cooler Master V700 is also $90, bit higher end again http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
review of it here http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=360
If you're worried that 700w ain't enough in the Fudzilla review
'In standby mode the power consumption was just 0.2W. Our test rig featured an EVGA X79 FTW motherboard, Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 3820 (4.2GHz) and two Geforce GTX 780 cards in SLI. We used Prime95 to stress the CPU and Unigine Heaven to stress the graphics cards. Under full CPU and graphics card load, V700 ran like a charm. Maximum consumption was 656W.'
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/3...d/32186-cooler-master-v700-reviewed?showall=1
I'd probably lean towards it but it'll cost more up front before the rebate as there is no discount code. Still, the Corsair is also great.
Ti's are a higher end model. 780 Ti is clocked higher iirc and has more CUDA cores.
For a Ti it's not a bad deal but for me the 780 is still better value. If you can afford the Ti model though it's a great card no doubt.
BeekleMatter
Member
Thanks for the response! I'll prolly go with a 550 or maybe 650 if I'm feeling frisky.
Another question, selling prices for 6850 and a 7850? Aren't the Doge coin mining losers messing up the usual selling rates?
Deserves it's own post, Cooler Master V700 for $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
Inspectah_Deck
Member
I bought this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wireless-Spi...?pt=PC_Viedeospielzubehör&hash=item51acb7f174
Takes some time to ship from china, but costs 1/4 of the original one and works like a charm with the official MS drivers (you just have to install them manually).
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