Onimusha78
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Want this asap really so I'm gonna have a quick look to see if I can find a site, but if not I'll give it a go
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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE
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Want this asap really so I'm gonna have a quick look to see if I can find a site, but if not I'll give it a go
Ally1987
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is there anywhere else beside japan I can order this kinda keyboard?
http://curio.egloos.com/m/343065
Im really loving that keyboard!
http://curio.egloos.com/m/343065
Im really loving that keyboard!
Not exactly sure on your PSU dimensions, but i got a Seasonic M12II 620W (W160 x L150 x H86 mm) in there by just removing the PSU bracket. I just used a small amount of double sided duck tape on the bottom of the PSU, but its jammed in there since the PSU is tucked up on 3 corners, meaning it can move towards the GPU if you try hard, but i then cable tided the spare cables in such a way that it pushes the PSU away from the GPU. A little bit of creativity will mean you should get your PSU to fit, unless its any bigger than the PSU i tried.
For the drivers, use the link that was posted earlier, specifically you need to download:
Motherboard Chipset driver
Intel Management Engine driver
LAN drivers
USB 3.0 drivers
Ideally install in the order ive listed.
Now onto your display issue. You do not need manufacture drivers for a graphics card to display a basic display. Windows has generic drivers, and the GPU bios allows the rendering of the BIOS splash screen and BIOS setup screens. Therefore you have either connected something wrong, or maybe you have connected the display cable to the motherboard rather than the graphics card.
SSDs dont have slave/master switches, you just need to connect the SATA Power from the PSU to the SSD and the SATA Data cable from the SSD to the motherboard. In Windows its likely you need to format the drive before it appears in the My Computer if this is not a boot drive. Otherwise you will format it within the Windows Installation setup.
Want this asap really so I'm gonna have a quick look to see if I can find a site, but if not I'll give it a go
Where in the UK are you?
You just know it's going to be the Outer Hebrides.
Try unplug one of your HDD/SSD and try again, sounds like a device/peripheral is blocking the bootup device. So unplug any extraneous USB devices too.
The link says the keyboard is the Cherry G84-4100. It's $68 at Amazon, here's the PCPartPicker listing for different variant prices.
Onimusha78
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Greenwich, London
edit: I think I'm good to go. Using PCspecialist. It told me when parts weren't compatible and I've managed to build something that looks pretty good for £717
Post the parts list
Muffin Awesome
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I was fairly certain the problem wasn't the drive, yet, I will try to see why no picture, but I was using an hdmi connection on the mobo and the graphics card. First graphics then mobo.
Sorry I read everyone's responses above, was just commenting to the last since I was on my phone. As far as connection to the board it hasn't changes since the original settings, the 760 is in the PCI e slot, and connected to the psu.
Sorry not trying to be too dense.
Onimusha78
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Processor (CPU) : Intel® Corei5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690 (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
Case: COOLERMASTER ELITE 311 BLUE CASE
Motherboard: ASUS® H81-Gamer: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM): 8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card: 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 750 Ti - DVI, mHDMI, VGA - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk: 1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive: 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader: INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply: CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling:Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler (£19)
Thermal Paste: ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card: ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking: WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD (£12)
USB Options: MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable: 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Windows 10 Upgrade: FREE Upgrade to Windows 10 with all Windows 7 & Windows 8.1 Purchases
Office Software: FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Keyboard & Mouse: LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO (£22)
Cable Tidy: PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management (£2)
Sorry for the long post...
theepicoftyler
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Is buying a used GPU on eBay something that is safe to do in 2015? I want to get a GTX 660, but the used prices are suspiciously good (for someone who spends zero time looking at PC hardware prices).
That's a far weaker PC for gaming. The parts list we suggested has a graphics card that is easily twice as strong and will do most games on high settings, as well as having a CPU that can be overclocked and a power supply that will be able to support future graphics cards. The 4690 is still a decent processor, but won't have as long a useful life as the 4690K. A 450 watt power supply will pretty much only support that GTX 750 Ti, if you want to upgrade to a better graphics card you'll also have to pay for a better power supply.
I'll admit our build doesn't come with Windows, wifi, keyboard and mouse, but I'm still sure we can fit Windows into your budget and have better parts all around, are you sure you don't want to build?
Is there a reason why you want a GTX 660?
How much is all this costing you? The specs outlined for you by mkenyon are much better. Build it yourself dude. It really is like Lego.
How much are they selling it for? The 660 is a pretty old and boring card at this point. I can't see why you'd want one in 2015, especially not a used one..
theepicoftyler
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I have an aborted PC build from a few years ago, and I want a mid-range card to play Cities Skyline.
Core i5
8gb ram
No video card
Not looking to break the bank, just play Cities and a lot of games from yesteryear that have accumulated in my Steam account.
I was seeing buy it now prices ~$100 - low 100's.
What's your budget for the GPU?
Rather than buy a outdated midrange graphics card, tell us your budget and maybe we can find something better?
theepicoftyler
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Honestly, I haven't budgeted much. I really don't want to spend more than $150 if I can help it. I'm not going to game on my PC enough to warrant spending a lot.
Onimusha78
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I'm open to building it myself. Usually have fun doing this sort of thing anyway. Only problem is time and me really wanting it up and running asap, could I put it all together in less than 4-5 hours?
And yeah, following that list with the addition of windows alone puts me around £100 over budget
And yeah, following that list with the addition of windows alone puts me around £100 over budget
No worries. If you were northern Ireland based I'd build it for you. I can be in London with work too but not going to be for the foreseeable, otherwise I'd offer to help build.
Onimusha78
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Intel. Either an i3 or an i5.
Really as said before you're not getting your money's worth almost everything is lower quality/less powerful.
Really give it I try. I really is like lego just longer and more scary
but it should be fine. As a someone that just build a PC for the first time last December it will be okay. The thing to be most careful with is the CPU.Just watch a bunch of videos.
Ask here for extra help.
If you're super worried about buying stuff buy from scan.co.uk with scansure - http://www.scan.co.uk/scansure/
Yeah, 4-5 hours is definitely doable. If you check some of the stores that offer prebuilt custom PCs, they state up to 5-7 business days before they may complete your PC and then they still have to ship it to you. Depending on shipping, you may complete your PC quicker than the stores could by ordering the parts yourself .
Here's a parts list that includes Windows:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£180.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£50.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£175.54 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.19 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£61.62 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£74.09 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £697.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-03 19:37 GMT+0000
I cut back on the graphics card and some other parts to accommodate Windows, but it's still quite a lot better than the prebuilt PC, especially looking at the R9 280X VS the GTX 750 Ti.
Tnx. Are Intel CPU's really that much bether? At 130-190 my only option is an 2 core I3 where with AMD i could get an 6 or 8 core FX series with the same or an even slightly higher clock speed.
Onimusha78
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Sold.
I'll do it myself. Okay I'll be getting these exact parts pretty much. Maybe swapping windows 8 with 7 and choosing a different case. Is there anything I need to be wary of when buying a case?
edit: My dad may be able to get me a free copy of windows 8 from work, so I'll hold off on getting that until tomorrow. If he can I'll get the graphics card you guys recommended before
Also what tools am I going to need. I'll need thermal paste right?
They are yes. The i3 has four threads, and they're much stronger than the 6/8 AMD offer. Plus they use less power and have a modern platform. I could inundate you with charts but AMD doesn't compete with Intel's stuff outside of niche applications that can use all their threads.
Wow that is insanely poor value for money!! 750Ti vs R9 290, just look at the benches, probably less than half the performance.
Generally i3 is kind of better now since some games need 4 threads to even launch (Far Cry 4). But it cannot be overclocked. So bit of a balancing act.
Would get the Toshiba ACA 1TB as it uses a single 1TB platter. That Hitachi is using very old tech i believe.
Thermal Paste will come with your cooler.
theepicoftyler
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Did anyone care to comment on this? Did my cheapness cause too much eye rolling?
Onimusha78
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Lol I've been told. Haven't got a clue about graphics cards. I've seen the Gtx 750Ti on a few system requirements sites so I thought it was good... but I was wrong and it sucks I'm guessing ?
edit: Going for the case suggested, looks a lot better in some other pictures I've seen. Thought it was silver initially which put me off, looks cool in white.
@LilJoka is the Toshiba ACA in a similar price range?
No, budget cards are awesome. I love my R7 265, it overclocks like a motherfucker. Best £85 I've ever spent.
For the money, you can get a new R9 270 which should outperform the 660. Take a look for used 270s or 270Xs.
Its a bare minimum GPU that i would recommend for someone looking to game at a mix of medium-high settings 1080p ~60fps. Probably match consoles to some degree, but likely suffer in AAA ports. Good value for money though.
Toshiba is ~£40.
LiquidMetal14
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Did the Dual Intelligent Processors 5 automated OC on the X99 Pro and it got my 5930k to 4.375mhz. I haven't tweaked a thing but the vcore is only at 1.275. I want to tweak it higher but I'm content for now. Hit about 76C in an 18 minute OCCT run.
Also played Metro LL Redux and got about 120fps average at 1440p. Slowly getting some benchmarking done. This was with dual G1 Gaming 970's OC'd at +140 on the core and +400 on the memory. Temps on the hot GPU were only at 73C.
My only bone is the auto OC downclocks my memory to 2400mhz instead of the rated 3000mhz speed.
Also played Metro LL Redux and got about 120fps average at 1440p. Slowly getting some benchmarking done. This was with dual G1 Gaming 970's OC'd at +140 on the core and +400 on the memory. Temps on the hot GPU were only at 73C.
My only bone is the auto OC downclocks my memory to 2400mhz instead of the rated 3000mhz speed.
Onimusha78
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lol.
Probably doesnt play with CPU Strap at all.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's at 125x35 right now. You can do it several ways but this is stable and I can't complain. I need to have a long sot down before tweaking things for myself.
Well, it's hard to beat a GTX 660 for less than $100, even if it is used. A brand new Gigabyte R9 270 comes in at just about $150 after $10 rebate and is just a marginally better performing graphics card.
If the ebay sellers are trustworthy and it is certain that the card isn't damaged, then it looks like a decent buy for the price.
Edit: as Monosukoi said, try looking for used newer cards? Seems like the R9 270 on ebay goes for a similar price.
The GTX 750 Ti is nice on a small budget ($150) and is very power efficient, but your budget can afford a much better graphics card. The 750 Ti is the weakest graphics card I'd go for in a gaming PC.
Ally1987
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thanks! ill look it up on ebay since I live in norway.
Damerman
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aftermarket paste wont make that big a difference. also congrats on the s340... its the best case i've had by far.
theepicoftyler
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Thanks! It looks like you're right. I'll shop for a used R9 270 then.
Muffin Awesome
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This may be incompetence here, but I am using a tv with an hdmi cable into the vid card and then tried it into the mobo, both were unresponsive at producing some sort of image.
If I remove the graphics card, can I leave it connected to the psu? Or is this insanely dumb. I am just fearful of taking things out.
Onimusha78
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£180@Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£50.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£175.54 @ Scan.co.uk) or MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£229.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.19 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
(£61.62 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£74.09 @ Amazon UK) (Or free from my Dad)
Network card: TP-LINK TG-3468 Gigabit PCI Express Network Adapter (£8 @Amazon) -- Swapping for a wireless
Wireless mouse and keyboard: Logitech Wireless Desktop MK270 (£20@Amazon)
Is there anything else I'm going to need, specifically for putting all of this together?
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£50.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£175.54 @ Scan.co.uk) or MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£229.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.19 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
(£61.62 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£74.09 @ Amazon UK) (Or free from my Dad)
Network card: TP-LINK TG-3468 Gigabit PCI Express Network Adapter (£8 @Amazon) -- Swapping for a wireless
Wireless mouse and keyboard: Logitech Wireless Desktop MK270 (£20@Amazon)
Is there anything else I'm going to need, specifically for putting all of this together?
Coulomb_Barrier
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It's not essential but you might want to buy either an anti-static mat with ground clip (less than £10/$10 on Ebay) or anti-static gloves (£2/$3) to guard against ESD when actually in the process of building your PC. I used both when putting mine together and while that may be OTT, it's a nice feeling handling your shiny new components in a pair of white mittens, and to look extra geeky in front of your girlfriend/wife
Depending on the case you may need some PC screwdrivers and basic hand tools, which you can also get cheap on Ebay. I bought a set but didn't need to use a single thing in there as it turns out my case (Air 540) features completely 'tool-free' assembly.
cyen
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Onimusha78
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It's not essential but you might want to buy either an anti-static mat with ground clip (less than £10/$10 on Ebay) or anti-static gloves (£2/$3) to guard against ESD when actually in the process of building your PC. I used both when putting mine together and while that may be OTT, it's a nice feeling handling your shiny new components in a pair of white mittens, and to look extra geeky in front of your girlfriend/wife
Depending on the case you may need some PC screwdrivers and basic hand tools, which you can also get cheap on Ebay. I bought a set but didn't need to use a single thing in there as it turns out my case (Air 540) features completely 'tool-free' assembly.
Anti-static gloves have just been purchased lol
Onimusha78
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I would go with a 290 and get that free windows license from your dad
Hoping I can go for that! I know what the deal with that is tomorrow morning. About to order the rest of the stuff as I type
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