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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE

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So FuryX is a no-go for me.
But I'll still upgrade, to a "lower" GPU.

Between the 390 and 970 which should I choose? And would it be better to spend 100 dollars more for a 390x or there's a better alternative?
 
I just wanted to share my ongoing list of parts for my pc
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $139.99)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (Purchased For $164.99)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($257.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $179.99)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $149.99)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-2209 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $79.99)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) (Purchased For $99.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Monitor: Acer XB270HU bprz 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($799.99)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $129.99)
Total: $3649.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 03:37 EDT-0400


the "purchased" parts are all the stuff i bought just a week ago lol

i'm planning to buy the rest and put the monitor and the video card last

so my dilemma right now is what i'm planning to buy right now is:

MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $279.99
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm HDD $47.99
Samsung Evo Pro 512GB $279.99
Crucial BX100 500GB $179.99
Intel Core i7-5820k $389.99

the issue i'm having right now is The SSD's in particular on which side i have to go
1. Do I just take out the 1TB HDD and go with the two SSD's and just get a 1tb or another 500gb crucial or samsung ssd in the future instead to add more space?
2. Take out the Samsung 850 PRO and just get another Crucial BX100 to save more but the disadvantages is losing out 10-15% speed from the 850 pro and losing out on longer warranty?
3. Or just stick with this and take out the Pro for an EVo?

thanks folks ! i'm very excited to build this but i really want to hear from you guys on which actions to take !

Edit 2: bought some of my parts from newegg and will be buying all my parts from newegg...my deliveries thus far are intact and good and no damages and they were fast too !
 

Hazaro

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So FuryX is a no-go for me.
But I'll still upgrade, to a "lower" GPU.

Between the 390 and 970 which should I choose? And would it be better to spend 100 dollars more for a 390x or there's a better alternative?
I'd get a used 290, a 290, or a 980Ti if you were eyeing the Fury X.
Is this monitor a good deal with the rebate?

ASUS VX VX248H - The rebate drops it to $139.99

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMGHCVG/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Any known issues with this model?
Not sure, probably fine. Monitors are not my forte at all.
 

Rizific

Member
I'll be receiving a hand me down psu from a friend of mine (corsair hx750) but it doesn't come with a power cable. Are there any specific things I need to look for when buying a cable?
 

longdi

Banned
I just wanted to share my ongoing list of parts for my pc
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $139.99)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (Purchased For $164.99)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($257.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $179.99)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $149.99)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-2209 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $79.99)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) (Purchased For $99.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $29.99)
Monitor: Acer XB270HU bprz 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($799.99)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $129.99)
Total: $3649.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 03:37 EDT-0400


the "purchased" parts are all the stuff i bought just a week ago lol

i'm planning to buy the rest and put the monitor and the video card last

so my dilemma right now is what i'm planning to buy right now is:

MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $279.99
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm HDD $47.99
Samsung Evo Pro 512GB $279.99
Crucial BX100 500GB $179.99
Intel Core i7-5820k $389.99

the issue i'm having right now is The SSD's in particular on which side i have to go
1. Do I just take out the 1TB HDD and go with the two SSD's and just get a 1tb or another 500gb crucial or samsung ssd in the future instead to add more space?
2. Take out the Samsung 850 PRO and just get another Crucial BX100 to save more but the disadvantages is losing out 10-15% speed from the 850 pro and losing out on longer warranty?
3. Or just stick with this and take out the Pro for an EVo?

thanks folks ! i'm very excited to build this but i really want to hear from you guys on which actions to take !

Edit 2: bought some of my parts from newegg and will be buying all my parts from newegg...my deliveries thus far are intact and good and no damages and they were fast too !

Imo, i will get the cheapest DDR4-2400 and save some money.
X99 CPUs need to do tweaking if you go beyond 2400 ram, and memory speeds is not that crucial when you already have 50Gb/s using quad channel DDR4. :p
If you go 125 strap, you will lose the cool Haswell adaptive voltages/C-states overclocking feature.
 
Imo, i will get the cheapest DDR4-2400 and save some money.
X99 CPUs need to do tweaking if you go beyond 2400 ram, and memory speeds is not that crucial when you already have 50Gb/s using quad channel DDR4. :p
If you go 125 strap, you will lose the cool Haswell adaptive voltages/C-states overclocking feature.
I already bough it though as u can see the "purchased" sign on it

;_; about the storage .. Should i just stick with the ssd's and take out the 1tb and just buy an ssd along the line ? Or what ?
 
Do you have a reason for doing that? If I was getting two 512s I'd get matching ones and put them in raid0.
I was planning to actually just use the bx100 to store windows and other files and make the samsung one do music,pictures and my games

What's your suggestion though ? :0 im open to anything
 

comrade

Member
I was planning to actually just use the bx100 to store windows and other files and make the samsung one do music,pictures and my games

What's your suggestion though ? :0 im open to anything
If you're really set on getting two I'd get two matching ones and put them in raid0. Or just get one for windows and programs and use a mechanical for games and other storage.
 

daxy

Member
So, I've settled on the following:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1866 Memory (1x8)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4G
Case: Fractal Design Define R4
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 750W

Comes down to roughly 1160 EUR (Netherlands).

Cost-saving alternatives would be appreciated if you know any! Already bought the mobo and CPU because of a nice deal. Looking to buy the rest of my parts over the course of this and the next month. Perhaps I'll switch out the Samsung SSD for a Corsair BX100 of the same size (only saves me about 15 euros, MX100 is pricier than SS). The 750w PSU is overkill for this setup yeah, but I didn't want to cheap out on this component and Super Flower seems to have price-value down at the moment.

I'm still debating getting 980 Ti over a 970, but I'm fine with 1080 at the moment and I don't mind turning down shadows or w/e a little bit to hit 60fps. Hoping to find a good deal on a 980 tbh.
 

comrade

Member
What am i losing though if i stay with what i have ? Up to 2x read/write speeds ?
Yes and it's just kind of an odd setup. I think raid0 or 1 ssd and a mechanical make the most sense. I would Either go raid0 for the 1tb and increased performance or just get one ssd and a mechanical.
 
Yes and it's just kind of an odd setup. I think raid0 or 1 ssd and a mechanical make the most sense. I would Either go raid0 for the 1tb and increased performance or just get one ssd and a mechanical.
Meh this will probably bite me in the ass later on but i'll just buy some ssd's later along the line and just raid0 them instead

Going full ssd setup so i took off the hdd and sticking with the 2 ssds
 

kennah

Member
Meh this will probably bite me in the ass later on but i'll just buy some ssd's later along the line and just raid0 them instead

Going full ssd setup so i took off the hdd and sticking with the 2 ssds
Yep. Don't listen to him. If you have the means to go all ssd, then do it. Fuck mechanical drives.
 

TheNAC

Banned
Not sure, probably fine. Monitors are not my forte at all.

Had to jump on it at that price with the rebate, lowest it's been and all the reviews say it's great. Will be great for my first build and much better than my laptop screen until I finish it.
 

ricki42

Member
I was planning to actually just use the bx100 to store windows and other files and make the samsung one do music,pictures and my games

What's your suggestion though ? :0 im open to anything

I think I'd use the 850 pro for the OS and the BX for games etc. Get the highest performance for the OS, you likely won't really notice the difference in games.
 
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right kind of question for this thread, but I figured I'd ask anyway:

I built a PC a few weeks ago. GTX 970, I5 4690, and all that fun stuff. The past two days the screen has randomly gone black for roughly five seconds at a time. Sometimes just at desktop, sometimes while playing a game. It hasn't happened a ton...maybe 6-7 times now, but its freaking me out a bit.

Any suggestions?
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Today's the day I'm running to Microcenter to grab the remaining parts for my build.

In terms of GPU which would you guys recommend?

GTX 770 2GB $200
GTX 960 2GB $200 w/ free Batman
GTX 960 4GB $215 w/free Batman
 
Today's the day I'm running to Microcenter to grab the remaining parts for my build.

In terms of GPU which would you guys recommend?

GTX 770 2GB $200
GTX 960 2GB $200 w/ free Batman
GTX 960 4GB $215 w/free Batman

What's your budget and what's your resolution?

Don't buy something with only two gigs of vram no matter what.
 

Q8D3vil

Member
Hi, I have two questions:

1-Whats the current best cost efficient SSD (for OS and games).

2-Cheapest way to buy win 7 or 8 to upgrade to 10 in the end of the month.
 

Moobabe

Member
I thought this might be the best place to ask since it's full of computer geniuses.

Since we switched to Sky Broadband I have been having a LOT of issues with playing games online. I'm fine browsing, on teamspeak, on Steam or whatever and even loading up games is fine.

However as soon as I connect to a game server (be it Counter Strike, DOTA 2, Dirty Bomb) my internet goes crazy. My ping shoots up to 2000, my packet loss increases and, if left long enough, the internet will cut and I'll lose connection.

I have NO idea what to do or even how to go about trying to fix it. Can anyone help?
 

Kayant

Member
I thought this might be the best place to ask since it's full of computer geniuses.

Since we switched to Sky Broadband I have been having a LOT of issues with playing games online. I'm fine browsing, on teamspeak, on Steam or whatever and even loading up games is fine.

However as soon as I connect to a game server (be it Counter Strike, DOTA 2, Dirty Bomb) my internet goes crazy. My ping shoots up to 2000, my packet loss increases and, if left long enough, the internet will cut and I'll lose connection.

I have NO idea what to do or even how to go about trying to fix it. Can anyone help?

Maybe messing around with your mtu might help.

http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=134914
 

Saprol

Member
My habit of running windowed games and keeping a bunch of crap open seems incompatible now that my games are on higher settings. Had Chrome and Battle.net client crash during a round of Dota.

Guess I should go up to 16GB RAM.
 

Moobabe

Member

Well my MTU on the router was 1500 which, when I ping it, is too high. So I've reduced to it 1480 (which works in the ping test) but still no joy connecting to a game server.

Edit

Ok - so I'm now pinging the Dirty Bomb game server (can someone else do this and see what results you get?) and varying my MTU value to see what happens:

C:\Users\Max>ping 8.31.102.150 -f -l 1500

Pinging 8.31.102.150 with 1500 bytes of data:
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 8.31.102.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Users\Max>ping 8.31.102.150 -f -l 1480

Pinging 8.31.102.150 with 1480 bytes of data:
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 8.31.102.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Users\Max>ping 8.31.102.150 -f -l 1450

Pinging 8.31.102.150 with 1450 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 8.31.102.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Users\Max>ping 8.31.102.150 -f -l 1460

Pinging 8.31.102.150 with 1460 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 8.31.102.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),

Then again at 1465 I get 75% loss, 1470 is 100% loss as well.
 

Moobabe

Member
Continue to lower it until it's successful
Hopefully

Unless the DB servers don't respond to pings?

I've run a tracert and I get this:

Tracing route to www.google.com [216.58.211.132]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms 3 ms SkyRouter.Home [192.168.0.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 02780820.bb.sky.com [2.120.8.32]
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 72.14.203.204
5 15 ms 10 ms 11 ms 209.85.246.246
6 53 ms 10 ms 12 ms 216.239.51.3
7 33 ms 21 ms 21 ms 209.85.251.190
8 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 209.85.143.247
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms dub07s01-in-f4.1e100.net [216.58.211.132]

Trace complete.

I'm timing out on hop 2 every time - where is that? Is that my local exchange? I'm having no problems at all browsing or downloading.

Edit

I've tried pinging that DB server with 100 as the MTU value but no luck.
 

zbarron

Member
I have a quick question for PC GAF.

My router crapped out and is not giving any wifi. I'm buying a new one hopefully today. Should I go with AC or just buy a cheaper N router? My internet speed is only 30Mb/s so I know that I am no where near maxing out N, but if there are other noticeable benefits I'd be willing to go for it.

Thanks.
 

Lexxism

Member
I got a Evga Supernova GS 650w. It has a PCI-E cable that comes with 2 6+2 connectors. Does it mean I can only use 1 cable to power the GPU or do I still need 2 PCI-E?
 

Kayant

Member
I got a Evga Supernova GS 650w. It has a PCI-E cable that comes with 2 6+2 connectors. Does it mean I can only use 1 cable to power the GPU or do I still need 2 PCI-E?

Depends on the GPU. 6+2 is basically a 8 pin so for a lot of high end cards you would need the 6+2 and the 6 pin.
 

Kayant

Member
Unless the DB servers don't respond to pings?

I've run a tracert and I get this:

Tracing route to www.google.com [216.58.211.132]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms 3 ms SkyRouter.Home [192.168.0.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 02780820.bb.sky.com [2.120.8.32]
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 72.14.203.204
5 15 ms 10 ms 11 ms 209.85.246.246
6 53 ms 10 ms 12 ms 216.239.51.3
7 33 ms 21 ms 21 ms 209.85.251.190
8 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 209.85.143.247
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms dub07s01-in-f4.1e100.net [216.58.211.132]

Trace complete.

I'm timing out on hop 2 every time - where is that? Is that my local exchange? I'm having no problems at all browsing or downloading.

Edit

I've tried pinging that DB server with 100 as the MTU value but no luck.

Not too sure tbh :p. Am also with Sky and it was something that I found helped with the latency on my line and though it would help with your packet loss issues I guess not :(... Hopefully someone else can chime in with more knowledge.

What motherboard do u have BTW? Maybe it could be a network driver issue?
 

Moobabe

Member
Not too sure tbh :p. Am also with Sky and it was something that I found helped with the latency on my line and though it would help with your packet loss issues I guess not :(... Hopefully someone else can chime in with more knowledge.

What motherboard do u have BTW? Maybe it could be a network driver issue?

I've just changed my motherboard today (I was having issues beforehand) I have one of these.

Just tried it on TF2 as well - packet loss and high ping instantly.
 

SHADES

Member
I've just changed my motherboard today (I was having issues beforehand) I have one of these.

Hi, sorry I know that you said Sky broadband but is that Sky's ADSL2 service or their fibre service?

iirc Sky lease their Fibre service via Virgin media which can be terrible in high utilisation area's, but sometimes a speed test won't always pick this up.

Could you do a jitter test too please, if you are indeed on the fibre package.
It could be nothing but worth ruling out since you mentioned that you've suffered it since switching.
 

Moobabe

Member
Hi, sorry I know that you said Sky broadband but is that Sky's ADSL2 service or their fibre service?

iirc Sky lease their Fibre service via Virgin media which can be terrible in high utilisation area's, but sometimes a speed test won't always pick this up.

Could you do a jitter test too please, if you are indeed on the fibre package.
It could be nothing but worth ruling out since you mentioned that you've suffered it since switching.

I think it must be the ADSL2 service - it's called Sky Broadband Unlimited on their package page and there's a separate entry for the fibre service.

How do I run a jitter test?
 

SHADES

Member
I think it must be the ADSL2 service - it's called Sky Broadband Unlimited on their package page and there's a separate entry for the fibre service.

How do I run a jitter test?

Ah ok, no worries there then. Just google jitter test, think it's the one by freeola that I use.
 

Lexxism

Member
You will need the 8(6+2)pin and 6 pin for any 980 ti am not wrong.
Oh okay. So, I still need to use 2 pci-e cable instead of just using one like this
Crkl4kx.jpg
 
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