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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!

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kennah

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Wow. Umm. You're projecting a lot of anger.

The problem is that what you're trying to do isn't particularly possible with the budget you have. Save up longer. Or try to find used parts. While you could do he build you listed it wouldn't last a year I bet.

No one is telling you to fuck off. You're interpreting that yourself.
 
Wow. Umm. You're projecting a lot of anger.

The problem is that what you're trying to do isn't particularly possible with the budget you have. Save up longer. Or try to find used parts. While you could do he build you listed it wouldn't last a year I bet.

No one is telling you to fuck off. You're interpreting that yourself.

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If you'd take a look around you'd notice that everyone here actually likes helping people put together builds. No one told you to fuck off. The guy literally suggested a build for you, and you never mentioned a budget in your first post anyway.
 
I didn't say that. The guy who replied to me did.
No he didn't. He referred you to a build that would be good, and posted a resource that is helpful for learning about PC parts.
He was nothing but helpful. What would you have wanted? It's not like he just said NO and didn't offer any info
 
All I did was post a link to a build and ask if it was decent, and listed the things I'd like from a gaming PC.

The guy replied with basically, "Shut up and read the OP, and figure things out for yourself with this unhelpful link."

Whatever. Fuck it. Fuck this thread. I'll just throw together that build and hope it isn't garbage.

Uh, I was trying to be helpful but am on my phone and can't make more detailed post at the moment. I suggested the build in the OP because it was close in price range to what you had posted. The guide I linked to isn't useless, it explains each and every part of a PC. It is not "unhelpful."

If youyare going to have a poor attitude then I won't be willing to give you anymore advice.
 
So what's the best way to power hard drives? I have 4 drives stacked in my new case and still with the provided power cable from my modular power supply, it's like doing brain surgery. There has to be a better way, right?
 

Pacotez

Member
At first I had a dead motherboard which I swapped, and second I didnt insert both sides of the RAM into the slot which caused a boot error.

I got the exact same problem a day before you but mine was caused by PSU going bad and I too didn't have spare parts to test stuff out. I was a little scared of buying a new PSU but luckily that solved it for me.
 

Lethal

Neo Member
I'm guessing someone else could do better, but maybe this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($284.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: HP 22cwa 21.5" 60Hz Monitor ($115.46 @ Amazon)
Total: $774.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 23:49 EDT-0400

I got you a better processor (though it's still pretty low-end. better than ps4/xb1 though), RAM, and a decent Nvidia GPU. $10 cheaper monitor from Amazon (shows up as $99 with Prime for me). Slightly more powerful power supply for future upgrades. If you're comfortable with it, grab a windows 10 key from those reseller subreddits. They're legit keys and a good $40-50 cheaper than retail - I've bought a couple from there before with no issues at all.

It's worth noting that I have no idea how long this thing will actually last for you, haha - it's really hard to predict what will and won't be viable for 5+ years. Even high-end stuff doesn't stay that way for long. Though that depends on what you're playing.

Seems solid for that price. WIth the option to add an SSD down the line...
 

moerser

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quick ram question. i ordered the kingston hyper x savage 2x8gb ddr4 3000mhz. would it make sense to put in a second 2x8gb ram kit? especially for gaming. i dont know if its better to just go with 16gb at 3000mhz or 32gb at 2666mhz (and i think higher latency?)
 

nightmare-slain

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quick ram question. i ordered the kingston hyper x savage 2x8gb ddr4 3000mhz. would it make sense to put in a second 2x8gb ram kit? especially for gaming. i dont know if its better to just go with 16gb at 3000mhz or 32gb at 2666mhz (and i think higher latency?)

2x8GB is plenty for gaming and speeds really don't matter much. DDR4 starts at 2133 which is fine. I run my sticks at 2400 but wouldn't go over 2666.
 

Stiler

Member
Ok so I have been out of the loop on cpus/mobo's for a few years now.

Back when I built my 2600k/asus p8z68-v pro computer some years ago.

It's served me well but my mobo is on its last legs, a dram slot is giving me issues now and I have a pin on one of the cpu fans bent so it won't work now.

I have a brand new 1070 and 16gb of new'ish 2133 ram.

All I really need is a new Cpu/Mobo, what are the best options at the current time?

From googling it seems the I7 6700k is a decent processor? Is it fairly new?

What about a good mobo?

I'd like something that will at least give me some future proof a bit, where I can oc the processor a few years down the road (like I can the 2600k, longoest lasting processor since the 8400 for me) and a mobo that will work well with that.

I don't need bleeding "top of the line" super-expensive things, just like fairly good power/value. Budget is around 500'ish.
 

Jimrpg

Member
I'm guessing someone else could do better, but maybe this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($284.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: HP 22cwa 21.5" 60Hz Monitor ($115.46 @ Amazon)
Total: $774.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 23:49 EDT-0400

I got you a better processor (though it's still pretty low-end. better than ps4/xb1 though), RAM, and a decent Nvidia GPU. $10 cheaper monitor from Amazon (shows up as $99 with Prime for me). Slightly more powerful power supply for future upgrades. If you're comfortable with it, grab a windows 10 key from those reseller subreddits. They're legit keys and a good $40-50 cheaper than retail - I've bought a couple from there before with no issues at all.

It's worth noting that I have no idea how long this thing will actually last for you, haha - it's really hard to predict what will and won't be viable for 5+ years. Even high-end stuff doesn't stay that way for long. Though that depends on what you're playing.

With that tight of a budget I would wait for the 470X for $150 and use the savings on an i5-6400 which will get you 4 cores. In a couple of years time he can upgrade the graphics card again.

I would also spend another $10 on Amazon and get one of the Acer 24" IPS monitors for $129 - im using it now for work and its really nice.

You can probably save another $20-30 on the case too. And then put that towards a 120gb SSD for about $50.

Buy Windows 10 for $35 off Reddit.
 
so theres nothing to gain above 2666?

For things that use big amounts of memory maybe but not really for just gaming.

Faster RAM won't hurt of course, I have some Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000Mhz myself but for just gaming, you can save a bit of cash, as the gains will be minimal.
 

OraleeWey

Member
I've read the OP. The "Great" build is more than I want to spend, but I can afford a bit more than the "Good" build.

God, this is one of the many reasons why PC gamers have such a bad rap.

"Hey, can I ask some questions and get some advice?"

"Fuck you, go figure it out yourself."
Honestly dude this is not true. This thread has been nothing but helpful and this was the thread which got me into PC gaming. If you read the OP you would see that there's a questionnaire you should have answered in the format and we would have been able to figure out exactly what you need. If you still need help answer these questions and someone will help you out.

[Basic Desktop Questions]
Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case / HDD (Hard Drive)
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming, Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U), Video Editing, Streaming games in HD, 3D/Model work (and what program), General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback).
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later? Are you buying a new monitor?
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 144? How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you?
Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model (e.g. Corsair 750TX, 640GB SATA HDD, Antec 900)
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!)

Sorry if this comes out like crap when I post it, I'm on mobile and wouldn't be able to format it correctly.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
Ok so I have been out of the loop on cpus/mobo's for a few years now.

Back when I built my 2600k/asus p8z68-v pro computer some years ago.

It's served me well but my mobo is on its last legs, a dram slot is giving me issues now and I have a pin on one of the cpu fans bent so it won't work now.

I have a brand new 1070 and 16gb of new'ish 2133 ram.

All I really need is a new Cpu/Mobo, what are the best options at the current time?

From googling it seems the I7 6700k is a decent processor? Is it fairly new?

What about a good mobo?

I'd like something that will at least give me some future proof a bit, where I can oc the processor a few years down the road (like I can the 2600k, longoest lasting processor since the 8400 for me) and a mobo that will work well with that.

I don't need bleeding "top of the line" super-expensive things, just like fairly good power/value. Budget is around 500'ish.

Is your 2133mhz ram DDR3 from your 2600k build or new DDR4 that you've bought for the 6700k?
 
I was gonna buy a new laptop but have decided against. I have never built a PC before so need some help choosing parts. My budget is £700. I am looking to build a PC that is quiet and powerful. CPU has to be an I7 and for now i am not going to purchase a graphics card. The onboard graphics card on the i7 will do for the time being once i get my next big payday. I want to make sure it the built pc is compatible with the nvidia gtx 1080.

Now heres the problem for me how do you go about choosing the tower as i do not want to buy a tower then find out the parts do not fit properly. So need help choosing parts.
 

Ptaaty

Member
i was looking at getting a 1440p monitor since upgrading my PC to an i7-6700K/GTX 1070. i know this card can do 1440p 60fps but i'd still like the option to play at 1080p 60fps but i don't want to drop £300 on a new monitor if playing at 1080p is going to look terrible. 720p on my 1080p is horrible. will it be the same situation on a 1440p monitor? the monitor i was looking at is the dell u2515h which seems to be very popular and high quality.

I just set up my XF270HU, a 27", 1440p IPS display. Checked a couple games at 1080p and it looks great - no issues whatsoever with scaling. Big relief for me since I went AMD GPU for freesync....1080p on a 1440p, at least this one.

I suppose someone could come in and nit...but it actually looks sharper due to the better contrast (was on a 24 inch TN at 1080p). Loving this monitor and 1440p. Only one tiny niggle to work out is getting rocket league at 1080p to scale fullscreen (on a 7870 waiting for my RX480 in a couple days).
 
Is there a way to contain a water loop inside your case but have no airflow going inside ?

Just wondering, that's all.

Yes, some cases have holes in it so you can run water loops outside.

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If you are asking if you don't need fans at all, that is probably a no unless you get some monster radiators.

Though I wouldn't recommend it, you still need airflow in your case, there are other things in them that get hot besides the cpu and gpu. If you check your motherboard, it probably has a few heatsinks on it.
 
I'm planning on building a new PC from scratch, and I'm planning on reusing a 1080p television as a monitor.

Would the 1070 be worth the extra money at 1080p, or should I stick with the 1060/480 et al?
 
I'm planning on building a new PC from scratch, and I'm planning on reusing a 1080p television as a monitor.

Would the 1070 be worth the extra money at 1080p, or should I stick with the 1060/480 et al?

480/1060 are good cards for 1080p at a good price but a 1070 would give you extra head room and be a little more future proof.

I use a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV with my PC and I'm getting a GTX 1070 in a few weeks to finish my new build (using my old GTX 760 temporary)

I looked at the 480 and 1060 but decided I want that little bit of extra performance, so the gpu lasts a bit longer before needing another upgrade.
 

OraleeWey

Member
Yes, some cases have holes in it so you can run water loops outside.

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If you are asking if you don't need fans at all, that is probably a no unless you get some monster radiators.

Though I wouldn't recommend it, you still need airflow in your case, there are other things in them that get hot besides the cpu and gpu. If you check your motherboard, it probably has a few heatsinks on it.

Cool. So there is a case out there.
 

thenameDS

Member
so theres nothing to gain above 2666?
I'm pretty sure you can gain some frames with 3000mhz RAM. Not sure where I seen this, maybe digital foundry or OC3D. Personally I bought the corsair vengeance 3000mhz abs I'm very happy with it, it's also very cost effective.
 

Sotha_Sil

Member
What's everyone's opinion on ultrawide screens? I'm debating what monitor to get right now. For the longest time I've been thinking of the 1080p/144hz/freesync/TN monitor from AOC.

I've just stumbled across the LG 29UM68-P. 2560x1080p/75hz/IPS/freesync. The cost is a little higher, but not by too much. Obviously getting an IPS screen is a big upgrade and the ultrawide will be great for movies, but what's it like for gaming? I can live with the reduced framerate at the cost of IPS and ultrawide (if beneficial).

The most likely card I'd be pairing it with is an non-reference 480 (4GB, maybe 8GB).
 

fantomena

Member
The kind of ram with a short heatsink, which most are. Because your CPU cooler is so big, it will likely hang over the ram slots, so you will need ram that is short.

How do I check if the ram is low profile/short heatsink?

Edit: In characterstics, it says google translated “low-profile heat spreaders” so I guess it's correct?
 

kuYuri

Member
What's everyone's opinion on ultrawide screens? I'm debating what monitor to get right now. For the longest time I've been thinking of the 1080p/144hz/freesync/TN monitor from AOC.

I've just stumbled across the LG 29UM68-P. 2560x1080p/75hz/IPS/freesync. The cost is a little higher, but not by too much. Obviously getting an IPS screen is a big upgrade and the ultrawide will be great for movies, but what's it like for gaming? I can live with the reduced framerate at the cost of IPS and ultrawide (if beneficial).

The most likely card I'd be pairing it with is an non-reference 480 (4GB, maybe 8GB).

They are awesome if a game supports it. Much more immersive I feel especially for AAA games. Most games are getting better and better with the support, but some are not perfect or don't support it at all. Legacy games can also be an issue as 21:9 wasn't typically a thing back then.
 

pablito

Member
Question. Is there a way to reinstall Windows if you don't have your disc? Mine is packed away somewhere in my garage. I'll look for it at some point, but I can't guarantee I'll find it. I'd like to get the OS on my SSD.
 

Bloodember

Member
Question. Is there a way to reinstall Windows if you don't have your disc? Mine is packed away somewhere in my garage. I'll look for it at some point, but I can't guarantee I'll find it. I'd like to get the OS on my SSD.

Just download the ISO from Microsoft.
 
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