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[VlaudTheImpaler]

Alright guys. Time to test your might.

I've been dealing with what I think is a virus for about a week now. No matter what antivirus I use, Malware bytes windows defender yada yada they won't catch it.

So, I decided to try to find the source and would like help if you can.

What I was getting is this pop up.

This will pop up every now and then and it will let me close it from the task bar but as you can see there is no option to clos it from the pop up. Not that I would ever click on it anyway lol. It also flickers. I observed that when I had task manager open that the task manager window would flicker in conjunction with the pop up. Weird.

Anyhow, I did everything I could think of to figure out where the file was located that was producing the pop up and was pulling my hair out because I couldn't left click on it or even find it in task manager for that matter.

Then, I remembered that when alt-tabing while holding alt it will give a little description of the running tasks on the desktop. I tried that and lo and behold it gave me a partial file address. I had my wife take them down on her computer and skype them to me and they lead me to a folder in C:\Users\VlaudTheImpaler\AppData\Local\{6421527D-4089-3EC5-2D11-1B2D0979E7B5}

This is part of what the folder contained. The whole file is way to long but I could provide it through pastebin or something I guess If needed.

(NiOZlQaS%1E%0B%0B%0CIsj'qo%17%15%154s%7B%83v%0E%0C%0C%2BT%7ByY~s%7F,_a%5C%3C1NaFVH%13%11%110%1Dpzq.xv1%0E%0Chri%26z%7Dk%17%15%19%17%1B%19c%86c%22Uiuuy%7C1Nl%80nb~cvof%2FGWI0!%16%14%14%15vt%2FbfSN%23A%25()(%7Drpz-S%87y%85!Uxf%12%10%10%11rp%2BO_Q%2FM1%23$%23xmku(N%82t%80-a%84r%1E%0B%0B%0Chns'%80Q^_%5CG%17%82u%85!zKXYV'E)M%7Dqn%82t_skgfx-(Tql%7Cz%7F%7Ct%83%3EiNNKXYV)1%16%14%14%15%85Vcda%2FQsis%26)XX%5D_.9%60db%5D'EUG1lht%7Co%18%16%16%17%87XeUR1wjtk(Mk%7Fma%7Dbu%7Fe%0F%0D%0D%0EYl%7C)%82S%60a^%2FM1oqwlntn%15%13%13%14%19%17S%7Dt1twe%0D%12%10'%15%13*%18%16%60%83q0%0FIkgi%5Coulx%8135%1A%18%1C%1A%1AEgoiykYmz%7Fp%7F%81ssVzmg%2BWhxpx%7DPtxr%5Cp%7Dv*%22%10%0E%0E%13%11%11rx%7FXrt%830%0F%3E%22zmsjv%7F7%7Dn~rs%7D%5Cvgv%10%0E%25%26'()*%2B,v%7C%83d%80q%22%40$%7Coulx%819%7Fp%80tu%7FUqs%11%0F%26'
[0520/144815:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(91)] Moved source C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source46856_15604\div-bin\VisualElementsManifest.xml to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\VisualElementsManifest.xml
[0520/144815:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(71)] Source path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source46856_15604\div-bin\43.0.2357.65 differs from C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65, updating now.
[0520/144821:ERROR:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(82)] failed moving C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65 to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\scoped_dir_46856_5947\43.0.2357.65: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. (0x20)
[0520/144821:ERROR:work_item_list_class.cpp(45)] item execution failed 
[0520/144821:ERROR:install_class.cpp(209)] Install failed, rolling back... result: 31
[0520/144821:ERROR:install_class.cpp(211)] Rollback complete. 
[0520/144821:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(242)] NoRollbackWorkItemList: list execution succeeded
[0520/144821:WARNING:product_class.cpp(165)] LaunchUserExperiment status: 31 product: html div system_level: 1
[0520/144821:WARNING:user_experiment_class.cpp(440)] Toast experiment is disabled.
[0520/144821:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1574)] Deleting temporary directory C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp
[0520/144821:WARNING:html_update_settings_class.cpp(525)] Removed incremental installer failure key; switching to channel: x64-beta-stage:finishing
[0520/144821:ERROR:installation_validator_class.cpp(462)] Channel name of html div (x64-beta) does not match that of div Binaries (-multi-div).
[0520/144821:ERROR:installation_validator_class.cpp(491)] html div has a usagestats value (0), yet should not.
[0520/144821:ERROR:setup_main_class.cpp(1717)] 
[0520/144821:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1730)] Installation complete, returning: 31
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1600)] Command Line: "C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\setup.exe" --install-archive="C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\div.PACKED.7Z" --multi-install --div --verbose-logging --do-not-launch-div --system-level /installerdata="C:\Windows\TEMP\gui4CC8.tmp"
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1602)] multi install is 1
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1605)] system install is 1
[0520/144900:WARNING:installer_state_class.cpp(114)] Install distribution: html div
[0520/144900:WARNING:installer_state_class.cpp(123)] Install distribution: html div binaries
[0520/144900:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(277)] Windows NT 6.1 SP1
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(736)] Installing to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(460)] Created path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp
[0520/144900:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1362)] Installing div from compressed archive C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\div.PACKED.7Z
[0520/144900:WARNING:lzma_util_class.cpp(82)] Opening archive C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\div.PACKED.7Z
[0520/144900:WARNING:lzma_util_class.cpp(89)] Uncompressing archive to path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778
[0520/144906:WARNING:lzma_util_class.cpp(82)] Opening archive C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div.7z
[0520/144906:WARNING:lzma_util_class.cpp(89)] Uncompressing archive to path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778
[0520/144907:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1405)] unpacked to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778
[0520/144907:WARNING:setup_util_class.cpp(146)] Looking for div version folder under C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin
[0520/144907:WARNING:setup_util_class.cpp(157)] directory found: 43.0.2357.65
[0520/144907:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1416)] version to install: 43.0.2357.65
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_class.cpp(326)] Successfully wrote VisualElementsManifest.xml to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_worker_class.cpp(486)] Adding unregistration items for DelegateExecute verb handler in FFFFFFFF80000002
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_worker_class.cpp(1359)] Adding registration items for DelegateExecute verb handler.
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_worker_class.cpp(1421)] Adding registration items for Active Setup.
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_worker_class.cpp(1340)] No DelegateExecute verb handler processing to do for html div binaries
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_worker_class.cpp(1412)] No Active Setup processing to do for system-level html div binaries
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_dir_work_item_class.cpp(33)] creating directory C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_dir_work_item_class.cpp(33)] creating directory C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application
[0520/144907:WARNING:copy_tree_work_item_class.cpp(83)] Moved destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe to backup path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\scoped_dir_33872_4310\div.exe
[0520/144907:WARNING:copy_tree_work_item_class.cpp(95)] Copied source C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin\div.exe to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(79)] Moved destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\VisualElementsManifest.xml to backup path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\scoped_dir_33872_26705\VisualElementsManifest.xml
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(91)] Moved source C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin\VisualElementsManifest.xml to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\VisualElementsManifest.xml
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(71)] Source path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin\43.0.2357.65 differs from C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65, updating now.
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(79)] Moved destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65 to backup path C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\scoped_dir_33872_3250\43.0.2357.65
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(91)] Moved source C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div-bin\43.0.2357.65 to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_dir_work_item_class.cpp(33)] creating directory C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65\Installer
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_dir_work_item_class.cpp(38)] top directory that needs to be created: C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65\Installer
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_dir_work_item_class.cpp(40)] directory creation result: 1
[0520/144907:WARNING:copy_tree_work_item_class.cpp(95)] Copied source C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\setup.exe to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65\Installer\setup.exe
[0520/144907:WARNING:copy_tree_work_item_class.cpp(95)] Copied source C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\Temp\CR_EC64B.tmp\setup.exe to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65\Installer\chrmstp.exe
[0520/144907:WARNING:move_tree_work_item_class.cpp(91)] Moved source C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp\source33872_25778\div.7z to destination C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\43.0.2357.65\Installer\div.7z
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\Classes\CLSID\{DEF5C65F4B0-3651-4514-B207-D10CB699B14B}
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\Classes\CLSID\{DEF5C65F4B0-3651-4514-B207-D10CB699B14B}
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\Classes\Interface\{DEF0BA0D4E9-2259-4963-B9AE-A839F7CB7544}
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\Classes\TypeLib\{DEF4E805ED8-EBA0-4601-9681-12815A56EBFD}
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\CLSID\{DEF5C65F4B0-3651-4514-B207-D10CB699B14B}
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\CLSID\{DEF5C65F4B0-3651-4514-B207-D10CB699B14B}\LocalServer32
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\CLSID\{DEF5C65F4B0-3651-4514-B207-D10CB699B14B}\Programmable
[0520/144907:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEFFDA71E6F-AC4C-4a00-8B70-9958A68906BF}\Commands\install-application
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}\Commands\install-extension
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D}\Commands\query-eula-acceptance
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D}\Commands\quick-enable-application-host
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}\Commands\on-os-upgrade or Value: SendsPings does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}\Commands\on-os-upgrade or Value: WebAccessible does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}\Commands\on-os-upgrade or Value: RunAsUser does not exist.
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(455)] Deleting registry key Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D}\Commands\quick-enable-cf
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\ClientStateMedium\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96} or Value: usagestats does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\ClientState\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96} or Value: usagestats does not exist.
[0520/144907:WARNING:conditional_work_item_list_class.cpp(17)] Evaluating InUseUpdateWorkItemList condition...
[0520/144907:WARNING:conditional_work_item_list_class.cpp(22)] No work to do in condition work item list InUseUpdateWorkItemList
[0520/144907:WARNING:conditional_work_item_list_class.cpp(17)] Evaluating RegularUpdateWorkItemList condition...
[0520/144907:WARNING:conditional_work_item_list_class.cpp(19)] Beginning conditional work item list
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96} or Value: opv does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96} or Value: cpv does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF8A69D345-D564-463c-AFF1-A69D9E530F96} or Value: cmd does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D} or Value: opv does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D} or Value: cpv does not exist.
[0520/144907:INFO:delete_reg_value_work_item_class.cpp(51)] (delete value) Key: Software\html\Update\Clients\{DEF4DC8B4CA-1BDA-483e-B5FA-D3C12E15B62D} or Value: cmd does not exist.
[0520/144907:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(52)] list execution succeeded
[0520/144907:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(52)] list execution succeeded
[0520/144907:WARNING:install_class.cpp(225)] Install repaired of version 43.0.2357.65
[0520/144908:WARNING:installer_state_class.cpp(612)] ap: x64-beta-stage:updating_channels-multi-div-full
[0520/144908:WARNING:install_class.cpp(108)] Creating all-users Desktop "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0520/144908:WARNING:install_class.cpp(108)] Creating per-user Quick Launch "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0520/144908:WARNING:install_class.cpp(108)] Creating all-users Start menu/html div "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe and pinning to the taskbar.
[0520/144909:ERROR:shell_util_class.cpp(1742)] Failed to pin C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\html div\html div.lnk
[0520/144909:WARNING:install_class.cpp(106)] Failed: Creating all-users Start menu/html div "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe and pinning to the taskbar.
[0520/144909:WARNING:install_class.cpp(128)] Adding div to Media player list at Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\ShimInclusionList\div.exe
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\ShimInclusionList
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\ShimInclusionList\div.exe
[0520/144909:WARNING:install_class.cpp(458)] Registering div as browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe
[0520/144909:WARNING:shell_util_class.cpp(2001)] Registering div as default browser on Vista.
[0520/144909:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(52)] list execution succeeded
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\ftp\DefaultIcon
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\ftp\shell
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\ftp\shell\open
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\ftp\shell\open\command
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\ftp\shell\open\ddeexec
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\http\DefaultIcon
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\http\shell
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\http\shell\open
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\http\shell\open\ddeexec
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\https\DefaultIcon
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\https\shell
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\https\shell\open
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\https\shell\open\command
[0520/144909:WARNING:create_reg_key_work_item_class.cpp(77)] created Software\Classes\https\shell\open\ddeexec
[0520/144909:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(52)] list execution succeeded
[0520/144909:WARNING:work_item_list_class.cpp(242)] NoRollbackWorkItemList: list execution succeeded
[0520/144909:WARNING:product_class.cpp(165)] LaunchUserExperiment status: 1 product: html div system_level: 1
[0520/144909:WARNING:user_experiment_class.cpp(440)] Toast experiment is disabled.
[0520/144909:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1574)] Deleting temporary directory C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Temp
[0520/144909:WARNING:html_update_settings_class.cpp(525)] Removed incremental installer failure key; switching to channel: x64-beta-stage:finishing-multi-div
[0520/144909:WARNING:html_update_settings_class.cpp(525)] Removed incremental installer failure key; switching to channel: x64-beta-multi-div
[0520/144909:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1730)] Installation complete, returning: 0
[0602/120747:ERROR:delete_after_reboot_helper_class.cpp(72)] Could not schedule C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\display for deletion.: Access is denied.
[0602/120919:ERROR:install_util_class.cpp(442)] Failed to delete registry key: Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\ShimInclusionList\display.exe error: 5
[0602/160746:ERROR:setup_main_class.cpp(408)] Already installed version 44.0.2403.18 at system-level conflicts with this one at user-level.
[0602/202930:ERROR:install_worker_class.cpp(251)] Failed creating a firewall rules. Continuing with install.
[0602/203009:ERROR:delete_tree_work_item_class.cpp(130)] can not delete C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\button\Application\old_div.exe
[0602/203035:ERROR:install_worker_class.cpp(251)] Failed creating a firewall rules. Continuing with install.
[0602/203037:ERROR:shell_util_class.cpp(1772)] Failed to pin C:\Users\css\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\button\button.lnk
[0602/203037:ERROR:installer_state_class.cpp(562)] Deleting old version directory: C:\Users\css\AppData\Local\button\Application\44.0.2397.0
[0611/151605:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1599)] Command Line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\44.0.2403.39\Installer\chrmstp.exe" --configure-user-settings --verbose-logging --system-level --multi-install --div
[0611/151605:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1601)] multi install is 1
[0611/151605:WARNING:setup_main_class.cpp(1604)] system install is 1
[0611/151605:WARNING:installer_state_class.cpp(117)] Install distribution: html div
[0611/151605:WARNING:installer_state_class.cpp(126)] Install distribution: html div binaries
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_util_class.cpp(277)] Windows NT 6.1 SP1
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(109)] Overwriting per-user Desktop "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(107)] Failed: Overwriting (maybe the shortcut doesn't exist?) per-user Desktop "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(109)] Overwriting per-user Desktop "Web Browser" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(107)] Failed: Overwriting (maybe the shortcut doesn't exist?) per-user Desktop "Web Browser" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(109)] Overwriting per-user Quick Launch "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(109)] Overwriting per-user Start menu/html div "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0611/151605:WARNING:install_class.cpp(107)] Failed: Overwriting (maybe the shortcut doesn't exist?) per-user Start menu/html div "html div" shortcut to C:\Program Files (x86)\html\div\Application\div.exe.
[0623/100414:ERROR:install_worker_class.cpp(251)] Failed creating a firewall rules. Continuing with install.
[0629/170035:ERROR:setup_main_class.cpp(1452)] Higher version of button is already installed. >

I can't make sense of this and was just wandering if I'm on the right path? I didn't want to delete this file in case it was just being installed here from another location and this might be the best lead I have to find it. At least that was my thinking lol.

 

[tim.mbp]

You try AdwCleaner?

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

You try AdwCleaner?

Wuzzat?

 

[kuYuri]

Out of curiosity, anyone had any experience with the Seasonic M12II 620W PSU? Newegg reviews seem good, just curious if anyone else here has used it. Planning on throwing it in a budget build.

 

[longsword 13]

Hi gaf, looking at my first decent self build for about £1800 and have got a general setup decided on.


CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£308.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£110.00 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£187.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£75.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£60.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£60.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£60.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£60.00)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX strix 1070 8GB Video Card (£439.99)
Case: Corsair Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case (£129.91 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£145.21 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit (£86.89 @ More Computers)
Total: £1714.26

I will be over clocking the cpu and gpu and want to have the extra power incase I ever buy a second gpu, but the real question is I can get 4 slightly used 850 EVO 500gb for 60 a piece and wondering if a raid 10 setup would go well as I don't need more than a terabyte, want some redundancy and any extra speed gains are welcome.

 

[Bloodember]

Hey guys, having a small issue could use assistance. Just did a fresh Windows 7 install on a new pc but for some reason, none of my usb drives are detected. I checked under devices from the Control panel and nothing. I can't access the internet since the drivers I need are on a usb drive. Any idea's?

Windows 7 has limited compatibility with skylake. Here's a link on how you might get it to work http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2800214/windows-support-intel-skylake-platform.html

 

[kennah]

Wow. It's pretty much been 7 years since windows 7

 

[Arkanius]

Ha! Yes it would. That whole case looks upside-down to me. Radiator should be on the bottom (top?) blowing down (up?).

It's an inverted design
And yeah, Corsair fucked up on that airflow chart.
The radiator should be at the bottom and pulling air from the bottom.

Here, my build but with air cooling only.

 

[manny10032]

What is the best screen size for 4k? 23in or 27in?

 

[vector824]

It kind of is, it's an inverted design. Quite a few of those available now.

It's an inverted design
And yeah, Corsair fucked up on that airflow chart.
The radiator should be at the bottom and pulling air from the bottom.

Here, my build but with air cooling only.

I see that. I don't see the benefits though (dust control maybe), you're putting the heaviest parts on top, the PSU and HDDs, and restricting airflow by having it push out the bottom into the floor. To each their own I guess. The case does look nice.

 

[CreateNowSleepLater]

My pc sounds like a jet engine. Is there a decently priced brand if fans I can look at. I have a ton of sata drives in there as well.

 

[V1LÆM]

My pc sounds like a jet engine. Is there a decently priced brand if fans I can look at. I have a ton of sata drives in there as well.

what size are you fans and how fast are they running? my old case had 120mm fans running 100% and it was so loud. they wouldn't adjust based on temperature so it was either slow or full speed. now i have 140mm ones that adjust based on temperature. if your motherboard can't support dynamic speeds then maybe get a fan controller installed. move up to 140mm fans if you can. i just use the stock ones that came with my case (fractal gp-14). i was actually looking at upgrading to some cool Corsair LED fans but it seems they wouldn't be as quiet/efficient compared to the stock ones. noctua fans, despite being super ugly looking, are quite popular.

 

[electricshake]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£32.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£383.98 @ YoYoTech)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£106.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £1066.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 14:39 BST+0100

What do you guys think of this build?

 

[lordfuzzybutt]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£32.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£383.98 @ YoYoTech)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£106.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £1066.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 14:39 BST+0100

What do you guys think of this build?

Faster RAM is better, 3000 mhz cas 14 for example, especially for Skylake. 2 sticks for dual channel preferable.

 

[Arkanius]

I see that. I don't see the benefits though (dust control maybe), you're putting the heaviest parts on top, the PSU and HDDs, and restricting airflow by having it push out the bottom into the floor. To each their own I guess. The case does look nice.

Check the Anandtech review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10650/the-corsair-carbide-600q-case-review

I'm using a Positive air pressure build. I'm using the front and the bottom as intakes (Where the dust filters are) and using the back as exhaust.

The HDDs and PSU are at the top yes, but they are in a different compartment away from the critical airflow areas.

This way I have 2x 140mm fans taking air in, and 1x140mm taking air out. If the CPU gets very hot, my 2x120mm bottom intake fans kick in (they are off otherwise), but they are mostly uneeded, didnt know what to do with them since they were spares of the last build.

With this layout, my GPU (980 Ti OC'd) managed to keep the same temperature at full load but without needing to use full fan speed (It's mostly at 80% now) which reduced noise considerably for me.

The CPU is also idling at 27-30c, with an ambient of 24c.

Very satisfied.

By the way, I upgraded the cooler to the Noctua NH-D15 right now so I could OC my i7 6700K.

 

[LilJoka]

I see that. I don't see the benefits though (dust control maybe), you're putting the heaviest parts on top, the PSU and HDDs, and restricting airflow by having it push out the bottom into the floor. To each their own I guess. The case does look nice.

I would agree with this, seems counter intuitive and would only cause the gpu to run hotter (maybe only a few degrees) than the normal orientation.

 

[LilJoka]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£32.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£383.98 @ YoYoTech)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£106.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £1066.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 14:39 BST+0100

What do you guys think of this build?

Forget about your SLI plans and go for something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£308.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.83 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£75.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£379.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£67.32 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£82.08 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1135.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 15:42 BST+0100


You could even drop it to a 6600k and Hyper 212, then slot in a GTX 1080.

 

[electricshake]

Forget about your SLI plans and go for something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£308.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.83 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£75.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£379.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£67.32 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£82.08 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1135.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 15:42 BST+0100


You could even drop it to a 6600k and Hyper 212, then slot in a GTX 1080.

I didn't really want to spend more thank £1k and I still need to get a mouse, keyboard and windows, so that's getting a bit pricey. Thanks though!

 

[AstroNut325]

Any thoughts on these two motherboards:
1) MSI Z170A: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130920
2) Asus Z170-AR: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013KS5TAE/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I'm leaning towards the MSI mainly because I've had Asus boards for my previous 2 builds. Been thinking of trying something new. Plus I'm kind of interested in the better built in sound hardware and the RAMDisk functionality. Might do some overclocking on a 6600K.

Or should I get this one:
3) Asus Z170 S Sabertooth: http://www.microcenter.com/product/...1151_ATX_Intel_Motherboard_with_USB_31_Type-C

 

[chaosblade]

Out of curiosity, anyone had any experience with the Seasonic M12II 620W PSU? Newegg reviews seem good, just curious if anyone else here has used it. Planning on throwing it in a budget build.

I don't have that one specifically, but I do have a Seasonic (X650). They are one of the best PSU manufacturers, can't go wrong with them. M12II is a little old now but still a good quality PSU.

 

[Arkanius]

Any thoughts on these two motherboards:
1) MSI Z170A: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130920
2) Asus Z170-AR: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013KS5TAE/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I'm leaning towards the MSI mainly because I've had Asus boards for my previous 2 builds. Been thinking of trying something new. Plus I'm kind of interested in the better built in sound hardware and the RAMDisk functionality. Might do some overclocking on a 6600K.

Or should I get this one:
3) Asus Z170 S Sabertooth: http://www.microcenter.com/product/...1151_ATX_Intel_Motherboard_with_USB_31_Type-C

I have the Krait Gaming 3X and very happy with it right now.
OC'd my 6700K well and it has the reinforced PCI e slots to prevent sagging. And it has a minimalist look as well.

 

[AstroNut325]

I have the Krait Gaming 3X and very happy with it right now.
OC'd my 6700K well and it has the reinforced PCI e slots to prevent sagging. And it has a minimalist look as well.

Thank you. There is a combo deal at Microcenter for the Krait Gaming 3X + the i5 6600K for $296 USD. I'm really tempted to just get that.

 

[Burgess_101]

So I am finally upgrading from my i7 2700k to a 5820k.

I just have a question though as I am not overly familiar with all that LGA2011-v3 has to offer.

On my new motherboard, pictured below, to the right hand side there are two eight pin connectors, are both of these needed? or would one suffice? What is the other one for? There is also a six pin connector near the PCIe slots, what is this for?

 

[horkrux]

This will pop up every now and then and it will let me close it from the task bar but as you can see there is no option to clos it from the pop up.

There is. Click on 'Not now' at the bottom. Can't really help you any further, sorry You couldn't make it disappear by closing suspicious stuff from the task manager?

 

[K.Jack]

A guy is arguing with me, that a 2500K @ 5Ghz is slower than a 6700HQ @ 3.1Ghz.

Is he right?

I'm telling him a 3Ghz CPU can bottleneck the GTX 1070, but he isn't hearing it.

 

[LilJoka]

I didn't really want to spend more thank £1k and I still need to get a mouse, keyboard and windows, so that's getting a bit pricey. Thanks though!

Then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.83 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£75.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£379.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£67.32 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£82.08 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1040.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-15 19:35 BST+0100

A guy is arguing with me, that a 2500K @ 5Ghz is slower than a 6700HQ @ 3.1Ghz.

Is he right?

I'm telling him a 3Ghz CPU can bottleneck the GTX 1070, but he isn't hearing it.

Itll be slower but not a huge amount.
Skylake is probably 40% faster clock for clock than sandy.
Theres a lot more to consider here and depends on the use case.

HQ is mobile and the GTX 1070 is a desktop card, so why make this comparison?

 

[Vipu]

A guy is arguing with me, that a 2500K @ 5Ghz is slower than a 6700HQ @ 3.1Ghz.

Is he right?

I'm telling him a 3Ghz CPU can bottleneck the GTX 1070, but he isn't hearing it.

Im pretty sure 2500k is better if its 2ghz higher clocked but maybe some more experienced can give better answer.

 

[Pagusas]

A guy is arguing with me, that a 2500K @ 5Ghz is slower than a 6700HQ @ 3.1Ghz.

Is he right?

I'm telling him a 3Ghz CPU can bottleneck the GTX 1070, but he isn't hearing it.

it would be close, if I had to choose between the two I'd take the 6700 every single time and twice on Sunday, even at 3.1. So yeah, He's probably not wrong. I think we all have to come to grips with the fact Sandy Bridge is very old now, still a great workhorse and more than enough for todays needs, but it has been outpaced accoss the board.

 

[kuYuri]

I don't have that one specifically, but I do have a Seasonic (X650). They are one of the best PSU manufacturers, can't go wrong with them. M12II is a little old now but still a good quality PSU.

Good to hear. Thanks!

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

There is. Click on 'Not now' at the bottom. Can't really help you any further, sorry You couldn't make it disappear by closing suspicious stuff from the task manager?

Yeah, I saw that but I thought it was common knowledge to never ever click on a pop up.

Plus what I meant by no way to close it was that when a normal window opens you have the option to minimize, expand or close the window at the top right.

Also, no I couldn't close it from task manager, that was the first thing I tried but it wasn't there. At least not on the initial page and I skimmed through the background processes and still couldn't find it.

I used AdwCleaner as someone else had suggested and it seemed to have found the file that I posted about along with some other registry stuff but it still didn't find the chromium program or even the (x86)\html\ files that the file I found in the post refers too as the install location. However, I checked the startup tab and found chromium that way even though I had thoroughly searched the location that it took me to when I was searching for it before. I'm guessing it was hidden like some files can be. Still can't find the (x86)\html\ stuff that the partial file I posted references though. It's making me paranoid... :/

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

When switching in the Fury I decided to go over the inside with a can of compressed air. It didn't look bad as I've only had it built since January but holy shit did my CPU temps drop after I was done. Moral of the story, use compressed air more often.

 

[K.Jack]

HQ is mobile and the GTX 1070 is a desktop card, so why make this comparison?

You must've missed the news. The GTX 1070 is available in laptops.

it would be close, if I had to choose between the two I'd take the 6700 every single time and twice on Sunday, even at 3.1. So yeah, He's probably not wrong. I think we all have to come to grips with the fact Sandy Bridge is very old now, still a great workhorse and more than enough for todays needs, but it has been outpaced across the board.

That makes sense.

And the other part of my post? Will a (non-overclockable) 3.1Ghz Skylake bottleneck a 1070?

 

[Ashhong]

There is a 6gb EVGA 1060 on sale for like 230. Can someone convince me it's worth it? I'm currently gaming on a 2gb R9 270 and i5 4670k and dont really have great results. I'd like to do more PC gaming especially now that XBO games are going to be released on PC more..

Is that a good price?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Hey guys, hoping you can help a friend of mine with a fairly new build. He has:

AMD FX-9590 CPU with 212 cooler
Nvidia 960 4gb
16gb ram
Samsung Evo 850 SSD with Win 10
WD Black 7200 rpm 2TB
M5A99FX motherboard

Everything was working fine until he got the new AMD cpu and now certain games will completely lock up his PC. His Xbox controller will start flashing and he has to go to his tower (a HAL 900 or something I believe) and hold the power button

He can play for example, Fallout 4 for hours, but Gears 4 locks up every 10 minutes, sometimes when it's just sitting on the title screen. He even went as far as turning off all power saving in Windows as a website suggested that. He also reseated his CPU twice now.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? He's at his wits end. Oh, and bios is fully updated.

 

[Pagusas]

You must've missed the news. The GTX 1070 is available in laptops.



That makes sense.

And the other part of my post? Will a (non-overclockable) 3.1Ghz Skylake bottleneck a 1070?

Not at all, and even if it did it would be super minor and completely not applicable at higher resolutions.

 

[Soodanim]

Hey guys, hoping you can help a friend of mine with a fairly new build. He has:

AMD FX-9590 CPU with 212 cooler
Nvidia 960 4gb
16gb ram
Samsung Evo 850 SSD with Win 10
WD Black 7200 rpm 2TB
M5A99FX motherboard

Everything was working fine until he got the new AMD cpu and now certain games will completely lock up his PC. His Xbox controller will start flashing and he has to go to his tower (a HAL 900 or something I believe) and hold the power button

He can play for example, Fallout 4 for hours, but Gears 4 locks up every 10 minutes, sometimes when it's just sitting on the title screen. He even went as far as turning off all power saving in Windows as a website suggested that. He also reseated his CPU twice now.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? He's at his wits end. Oh, and bios is fully updated.

Unlocked framerates? They can be bad in menu screens. I don't know just how bad as I've always set a limit with RTSS.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Unlocked framerates? They can be bad in menu screens. I don't know just how bad as I've always set a limit with RTSS.

It's connected to a TV so he always uses vsync.

 

[Pagusas]

Hey guys, hoping you can help a friend of mine with a fairly new build. He has:

AMD FX-9590 CPU with 212 cooler
Nvidia 960 4gb
16gb ram
Samsung Evo 850 SSD with Win 10
WD Black 7200 rpm 2TB
M5A99FX motherboard

Everything was working fine until he got the new AMD cpu and now certain games will completely lock up his PC. His Xbox controller will start flashing and he has to go to his tower (a HAL 900 or something I believe) and hold the power button

He can play for example, Fallout 4 for hours, but Gears 4 locks up every 10 minutes, sometimes when it's just sitting on the title screen. He even went as far as turning off all power saving in Windows as a website suggested that. He also reseated his CPU twice now.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? He's at his wits end. Oh, and bios is fully updated.

Has he ran a ram test to check for any memory errors? If not that have him underclock the processor just to experiment, and try running those games. If that fixes it then it may be the processor is getting undervolted somehow.

If that doesnt change anything, have him reinstall windows as silly as that sounds. Worth a try to see if there is some software error going on.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Hey guys, hoping you can help a friend of mine with a fairly new build. He has:

AMD FX-9590 CPU with 212 cooler
Nvidia 960 4gb
16gb ram
Samsung Evo 850 SSD with Win 10
WD Black 7200 rpm 2TB
M5A99FX motherboard

Everything was working fine until he got the new AMD cpu and now certain games will completely lock up his PC. His Xbox controller will start flashing and he has to go to his tower (a HAL 900 or something I believe) and hold the power button

He can play for example, Fallout 4 for hours, but Gears 4 locks up every 10 minutes, sometimes when it's just sitting on the title screen. He even went as far as turning off all power saving in Windows as a website suggested that. He also reseated his CPU twice now.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? He's at his wits end. Oh, and bios is fully updated.

Has he any means of checking the temperature while the games are running? Because uh, having looked around with regards to AMD CPUs (having bought an FX 6350 due to recommendation and slightly regretting it due obvious limits), the 9590 is meant be liquid cooled, because it is hungry as CPUs go.

 

[Vipu]

If that doesnt change anything, have him reinstall windows as silly as that sounds. Worth a try to see if there is some software error going on.

Thats not silly at all, I would do that almost instantly if I changed cpu and had problems.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Has he any means of checking the temperature while the games are running? Because uh, having looked around with regards to AMD CPUs (having bought an FX 6350 due to recommendation and slightly regretting it due obvious limits), the 9590 is meant be liquid cooled, because it is hungry as CPUs go.

I got him to use speed fan while running a game and temps seem normal, however I'm not sure how accurate that program really is. Do you have one you'd recommend?

Edit: missed the other replies, this is his second install of Windows 10 as he got his SSD after the CPU and did a clean install on it.

Has he ran a ram test to check for any memory errors? If not that have him underclock the processor just to experiment, and try running those games. If that fixes it then it may be the processor is getting undervolted somehow.

If that doesnt change anything, have him reinstall windows as silly as that sounds. Worth a try to see if there is some software error going on.

His ram is actually the only thing he never changed. It's about 5 years old. What should he use to error check the ram and what should he be looking for?

 

[Pagusas]

I got him to use speed fan while running a game and temps seem normal, however I'm not sure how accurate that program really is. Do you have one you'd recommend?

Edit: missed the other replies, this is his second install of Windows 10 as he got his SSD after the CPU and did a clean install on it.



His ram is actually the only thing he never changed. It's about 5 years old. What should he use to error check the ram and what should he be looking for?

Asus has the AI suite with built in temp monitoring strait from the sensors, use that. Additionally that CPU REQUIRES liquid cooling, it will be throttling it self like crazy under that cooler. Even the product description says "Liquid cooling required"

Memory can still be an issue with a new processor even if it was not an issue with a previous one (rare, but it can happen), use memtest to run the test.

Has he used any sythertic stress testers like prime95 yet?

From one of many reviews of that processor:

"The FX-9590 is a hot running processor and we don’t mean hot in any conventional meaning of the word either. This thing is like having a miniature nuclear reactor strapped to your motherboard; it will thoroughly overwhelm mid-tier heatsinks and AIO water coolers alike"

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Asus has the AI suite with built in temp monitoring strait from the sensors, use that. Additionally that CPU REQUIRES liquid cooling, it will be throttling it self like crazy under that cooler. Even the product description says "Liquid cooling required"

Memory can still be an issue with a new processor even if it was not an issue with a previous one (rare, but it can happen), use memtest to run the test.

Has he used any sythertic stress testers like prime95 yet?

Damn, liquid cooling eh? He hasn't run prime95, so I'll get his to try that and memtest. Cheers.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

I got him to use speed fan while running a game and temps seem normal, however I'm not sure how accurate that program really is. Do you have one you'd recommend?

Edit: missed the other replies, this is his second install of Windows 10 as he got his SSD after the CPU and did a clean install on it.



His ram is actually the only thing he never changed. It's about 5 years old. What should he use to error check the ram and what should he be looking for?

Another possibility, after looking around, is that the 'turbo' setting in BIOS can apparently cause freezing - though the source I found on that mentioned freezing as occurring generally, rather than in specific games.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Another possibility, after looking around, is that the 'turbo' setting in BIOS can apparently cause freezing - though the source I found on that mentioned freezing as occurring generally, rather than in specific games.

I'll check him to check that too. Thanks a lot for all your help guys.

 

[cackhyena]

I'm helping build a new PC for a friend. I'm going to be giving him my old 670 to start out with and the rest of the machine will be a beast. I'm just wondering if anyone has a better suggestion than the Phanteks Pro for a case? It's a reasonable price but I'm wondering if that card, or a future upgrade would be too big? I know with my 980 TI, my Fractal case could barely fit. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[kuYuri]

Hey guys, hoping you can help a friend of mine with a fairly new build. He has:

AMD FX-9590 CPU with 212 cooler
Nvidia 960 4gb
16gb ram
Samsung Evo 850 SSD with Win 10
WD Black 7200 rpm 2TB
M5A99FX motherboard

Everything was working fine until he got the new AMD cpu and now certain games will completely lock up his PC. His Xbox controller will start flashing and he has to go to his tower (a HAL 900 or something I believe) and hold the power button

He can play for example, Fallout 4 for hours, but Gears 4 locks up every 10 minutes, sometimes when it's just sitting on the title screen. He even went as far as turning off all power saving in Windows as a website suggested that. He also reseated his CPU twice now.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? He's at his wits end. Oh, and bios is fully updated.

From what I've heard, one of the problems might be the CPU itself. The 9000 series of CPUs from AMD are some of the worst in terms of cooling. They get too hot to the point that only certain high end motherboards are recommended to put them in. They are that hot and will likely lead to headaches down the line, and they don't offer that much of a performance boost over something like the FX8350.

 

[Ayumi]

Edit: Sorry, I wrote this post before testing something. Will post again about my sound problems soon.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

From what I've heard, one of the problems might be the CPU itself. The 9000 series of CPUs from AMD are some of the worst in terms of cooling. They get too hot to the point that only certain high end motherboards are recommended to put them in. They are that hot and will likely lead to headaches down the line, and they don't offer that much of a performance boost over something like the FX8350.

So I don't think it's the temp. We ran the tests using the Asus software and running Gears 4 and the highest it went to was 56 degrees which I'm assuming is well within its safety range. However the whole computer froze during a memory test, which I guess is not a good sign.

Edit: I will take everyone's comment about needing a better cooler very seriously though and have recommended water cooling to him.

One thing I completely forgot was the PSU. It's 600 watt, that's enough right?

 

[Pagusas]

So I don't think it's the temp. We ran the tests using the Asus software and running Gears 4 and the highest it went to was 56 degrees which I'm assuming is well within its safety range. However the whole computer froze during a memory test, which I guess is not a good sign.

Edit: I will take everyone's comment about needing a better cooler very seriously though and have recommended water cooling to him.

One thing I completely forgot was the PSU. It's 600 watt, that's enough right?

potentially not, it should be enough (PSU power), however that is literally the most power hungry CPU ever. The failed memory test though should put all eyes on the memory. Take a dimm out and retry the test, if it fails swap it for the other dimm. Also make sure his memory timings are right in the bios.