If competition is good for the industry, why does everyone want Xbox to fail?

DR3AM

DR3AM

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MS's Xbox is an American company and we need to keep jobs here in the US. For some reason everyone here wants MS to fail and make PS the only player in the console market. This would be extremely bad for everyone.

Also, Xbox gave us Xbox Live, GamePass and Halo. Without those, who knows where we would be.

Competition for a good and we need to buy Xbox products.
 
You might be equating people laughing at their mistakes and mocking their stupid decisions as wanting them to fail. Consumers want to support a corporation's product because it's good, not because they feel obligated to.
 
No clue. As someone that doesn't side with any particular platform more than the others it never made sense to me. In a world where I just want good/great video games, the more video games we have to choose from, the better IMO. There's something for everyone, and having options is always a good thing.
 
I personally dont want for Xbox to fail, I want healthy competition between them.

But none us can help them if they dont release quality games.

Like it or not exclusives are essential to show that your system is worth getting.
 
Because they want purism, these people would have the feat of facing anti trust lawsuits if they had a small company. Reminds me of the "our brand parking only" from car factories while the rest gets kicked out by a mile or more from the facility.

But if you want the controversial answer, its Neogaf that we're talking about.
 
Because deep down, they don't actually want competition

They want comfort. They want Sony on top forever, feeding them sequels to the same over-the-shoulder dad-sims every few years while pretending the gaming world begins and ends with PlayStation Studios

That shiny green box isn't just hardware, it's a reminder that the old kings might not stay kings forever. And that terrifies them
 
In order to compete, they must be competing. People don't want Xbox to fail, the Xbox team wants it to fail. They're the ones laying off people, not doubling down on game development, cutting off key talent, etc. And you expect Xbox to compete, with this new lean team?
 
actual competition is good yes, microsoft only competed with the 360 and even then it was because a number of circumstances beyond their own doing that favored it.

if they were allowed they would buy out the entire industry and burn it to the ground, that is not competition, the market chooses the products it wants and it keeps choosing for xbox to fuck off
 
If they were still delivering like they did during the 360 era there'd be a lot less hate. They spent the past decade trying to recover and failed. Pretty easy to hate on that.
 
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The upcoming Windows vs Steam war will provide some healthy competition.

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Rockman33 said:
Never really understood. Also I still don't understand why a large percent of the community hate/talk shit about Gamepass.
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Devalues games, cannibalizes sales, dropped the quality of games, games get designed to try and get people to stay on a subscription, takes any sense of ownership away, lead to sea of thieves releasing bare bones, grounded in beta for like 2 years, halo turned into a GaaS no one likes, first current gen release was a broken mess (Redfall) that the own devs wanted it to be cancelled while Phil thought it would get a 70 . . . like shooting for a 70 is acceptable.
 
People don't want Xbox to fail, they want them to do better and it's their Ideas they want to fail because they're shit.
That attention has now been drawn to Sony
Kataploom said:
People are stuck in mid to late 2000s, not the smartest of the bunch
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Vs 2010's/2020's.....oh, you must be one them "we are more evolved now" types
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The whole consolized "AAA" paradigm is on its last legs anyway. Western devs are going bankrupt and it just isn't working. Things are going to change with mobile/handheld tech improving and AI and VR on the horizon. Competitors are coming, believe me.
 
DR3AM said:
Competition for a good and we need to buy Xbox products.
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but if you're not really competing, it's not competition, eh? previous to this gen, for the most part, the xbox was competing with playstation & switch. over the last 5 years, they, unfortunately, haven't been. personally, i'm not going to support what i feel is an inferior product in the name of 'competition'. if you've got the cash to do so, good on ya...
 
Please stop with the no competition fear mongering 🙄

With Switch 1 & 2 , Xbox as a platform, Steam , Handheld gaming PCs , Tablets , Phones , Cloud Gaming on TVs & other devices this is the most competition PlayStation has ever had.
 
i dont think anyone want Xbox fail. instead people want them to thrive.

but there is certain direction of them that some people prefer to see it fail for numerous valid debatable reason, or not.
 
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Because western games (especially all the sportsbro shit and Halo) were never my main interest in gaming, and MS really failed hard to woo anyone in Japan to develop anything exclusive I cared enough about across multiple generations of Xbox consoles. The only thing they had that even remotely piqued my interest was the Panzer Dragoon sequel but it turned out to suck a lot compared to Zwei & Saga.
 
Maybe not everyone on the internet is American lol. But they are making more money than ever and laying off people like crazy. That's the American way now, when it comes to big business. Replace the American worker with AI or people in other countries.
 
Valonquar said:
Because western games (especially all the sportsbro shit and Halo) were never my main interest in gaming, and MS really failed hard to woo anyone in Japan to develop anything exclusive I cared enough about across multiple generations of Xbox consoles. The only thing they had that even remotely piqued my interest was the Panzer Dragoon sequel but it turned out to suck a lot compared to Zwei & Saga.
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Oh, so the entire value of Xbox should be tossed in the trash because you personally didn't get your niche JRPG fix? Give me a break
 
HRK69 said:
Oh, so the entire value of Xbox should be tossed in the trash because you personally didn't get your niche JRPG fix? Give me a break
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No, I will not give you a break. Beyond JRPGs, Sony just dominated with better overall exclusives, MS did nothing of value. Peeps loved Halo, but that was always felt way behind what PC shooters were doing for a decade + beforehand. The controllers sucked too.
 
Because of the rule of three and good competition. When Xbox was producing good content we had a very solid generation (ps360) we don't want competition for competitions sake...in a way, they are not competition. They just bought producing absolutely no value at all. They are destroying value and the industry.
 
DR3AM said:
MS's Xbox is an American company and we need to keep jobs here in the US. For some reason everyone here wants MS to fail and make PS the only player in the console market. This would be extremely bad for everyone.

Also, Xbox gave us Xbox Live, GamePass and Halo. Without those, who knows where we would be.

Competition for a good and we need to buy Xbox products.
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I see this every month. I am not going to type it again so i will just repost what I wrote last time:
DeltaPolarBear said:
You literally do not know how Competition works. It does NOT mean "keeping a failed business going indefinitely".

1. Multiple companies compete for your money
2. Some offer better deals than others
3. The ones that couldn't handle the heat fail.
4. Those who fail drop out. <---- Xbox is here.
5. New competitors show up to replace those who drop out.
6. Repeat.

We are at step 4 for Xbox. Just as when SEGA died, they offered their catalogue to the new Xbox at the time. Xbox dying is necessary for the cycle of competition. Otherwise Atari would still be selling consoles.

Xbox know this, but they spread the lie about "competition" means keeping the last place finisher around. And their customers are not able to resist parroting these lies.
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Valonquar said:
No, I will not give you a break. Beyond JRPGs, Sony just dominated with better overall exclusives, MS did nothing of value. Peeps loved Halo, but that was always felt way behind what PC shooters were doing for a decade + beforehand. The controllers sucked too.
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It's straight-up kindergarten logic to say an entire platform should disappear just because it doesn't match your personal tastes. Like, oh no, you didn't get your favorite exclusives or the controller wasn't your jam, better nuke the whole ecosystem, right?

Imagine thinking the solution to "I don't like this" is "no one else should have it either." That's not criticism, that's selfish fanboy tantrum energy

Kindergarten logic. Grow up. The industry doesn't revolve around your taste buds.
 
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