If you had to eliminate 1 of the big 3 console manufacturers...
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Zog
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I know that FF16 is a PS5 exclusive. Anyway, do you believe that if Sony got out of the game business that their studios and IP's would not be sold to other companies?
Zog
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I dunno, is it?
As if the studios are just going to close.
..these studios would suck if not for Daddy Sony?
Vick
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So you think the results would be different in any other gaming releated Forum?
I think it is.
Well, who would pay them to just make single player games free from microtransactions, loot boxes and all the kind of shit the industry seems so eager to inflict to gamers?
Zog
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Fair enough.
existensmaximum
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Well for me personally, Microsoft and Xbox are easily the most irrelevant and redundant of the three. They have no exclusives, no worthwhile first party studios and don't offer anything that appeal to me. All of their games can be played on PC anyway.
Well Bethesda offer the Elder Scrolls series and Fallout, but after Fallout 4 and especially Fallout 76, I don't have high hopes that they will deliver anything playable really.
However they are necessary so there's competition for Sony. I don't mind them either, they're just completely irrelevant to me after the Xbox 360 which was an amazing console with great exclusives.
So is have to choose Nintendo, so they could do a Sega and release their games on better platforms. Their games would shine SO much on the PS5 or even the PS4.
In my opinion they're released shit (and most of their games as well) hardware since the SNES, with the exception of the GBA and the GameCube.
At least Sony get the closed hardware advantage and coding to the metal, and optimize their game like no others. Their optimization, animation quality, motion capture and attention to detail just can't be matched right now and being insane quality to their games.
Their best looking games on the PS4 pro looks miles better than any game I've seen, even on PC with a top end GPU. And now, Miles Morales Demon's Souls and the UE5 demo completely obliterates all competition before the PS5 has even been released
To me, they're easily the most appealing and relevant of the three, so yeah, Nintendo.
Well Bethesda offer the Elder Scrolls series and Fallout, but after Fallout 4 and especially Fallout 76, I don't have high hopes that they will deliver anything playable really.
However they are necessary so there's competition for Sony. I don't mind them either, they're just completely irrelevant to me after the Xbox 360 which was an amazing console with great exclusives.
So is have to choose Nintendo, so they could do a Sega and release their games on better platforms. Their games would shine SO much on the PS5 or even the PS4.
In my opinion they're released shit (and most of their games as well) hardware since the SNES, with the exception of the GBA and the GameCube.
At least Sony get the closed hardware advantage and coding to the metal, and optimize their game like no others. Their optimization, animation quality, motion capture and attention to detail just can't be matched right now and being insane quality to their games.
Their best looking games on the PS4 pro looks miles better than any game I've seen, even on PC with a top end GPU. And now, Miles Morales Demon's Souls and the UE5 demo completely obliterates all competition before the PS5 has even been released
To me, they're easily the most appealing and relevant of the three, so yeah, Nintendo.
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GeorgioCostanzaX
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Can I cheat and just say technically none? Microsoft should just drop the line between PC and console so that you can run anything that runs on PC on XBOX. Just get a HOTAS, Keyboard and Mouse and Bam you can play MS Flight Simulator.
I like all three and none of them need to exit but MS could transcend.
I like all three and none of them need to exit but MS could transcend.
cartman414
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Anyone who says Nintendo should develop on other platforms is basically saying Apple should give up their hardware as well. Why do you think Apple's untethering themselves from Intel and delivering their own chips? Autonomy. Not having to wait on Intel's CPUs.
Similarly, Nintendo has less work to do working with their own hardware. Plus, no 3rd party fees to the other two. (They already pay a tax for mobile, reflected in higher priced IAP purchases for games, like Pokemon Shuffle.)
Besides, Sony and MS are largely superfluous with PC around.
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SupremeHoodie
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I've played one Nintendo game in the past 10 years. So I pick Sony.
VeganElduderino
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i can't vote but easily Microsoft
Vick
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I'd put Rocksteady and Rockstar on the same level, technically. Rockstar maybe even better in terms of scope and complexity of their worlds.
Capcom a little behind them all graphically, but not that much considering they also targeted 60fps this gen. They just make very small games.. it's understandable, but TLoU2 is a very similar game to RE2R and it's like 50 times bigger.
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The idea that losing Sony would only cost you the western developed Sony third person exclusives is a little bit of a disservice to the influence of the PS3/PS4 in bringing Japanese games to PC indirectly I think. I'd argue that Sony releasing lots of big budget Japanese games in the west on the Playstation consoles provided the incentive for those studios to port those games to PC as well since the western localization was already done and Sony wouldn't object as it doesn't view PC as a console competitor. Of course now the Japanese publishers know that the PC market is worthwhile to invest in financially, but without Sony's consoles driving the development of big budget AAA Japanese games for western audiences I don't think we'd have anywhere close to the amazing library of Japanese PC games that we do in 2020.
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existensmaximum
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Hmm Rockstar comes close for me, but I don't think they can touch what Naughty Dog, Guerilla or Santa Monica have put out. But if they could focus and put all their effort into developing for one closed hardware platform, yeah they'd probably be on par or even better.
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Vtecomega
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As much as I hate sony for being the woke tards they are. It has to be Microsoft. Good hardware aside, their AAA games output has been abysmal for years now.
They need a complete restructure or I don't see them lasting long at all.
At least sony have some form of decent AAA games.
They need a complete restructure or I don't see them lasting long at all.
At least sony have some form of decent AAA games.
Vick
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I am not talking about detail or quality of the assets, but their simulations for the world, like AI, finesse of time of day and weather conditions, how they extensively use self shadowing parallax occlusion mapping, their lighting, water simulations, LOD management.. the complete package.
Rocksteady also blew my mind with Arkham Knight.
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existensmaximum
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Allright, sure then I agree with you about the quality! I suppose it's just not what's most important to me personally so I don't appreciate it as much
Larxia
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I'm confused with the votes for Microsoft since they're the ones trying to be the most consumer friendly.
I voted for Nintendo but I was kind of torn between sony and nintendo, both currently have pretty shitty policies on many things, but the way nintendo act basically like the Apple of video games made me vote for them. Overpriced hardware and software, thinking they can get away with anything (and sadly so far, they totally can) etc... yeah, them.
I play on PC btw so I'm not pro anything, except well, PC, looking at this from an outside point of view.
I voted for Nintendo but I was kind of torn between sony and nintendo, both currently have pretty shitty policies on many things, but the way nintendo act basically like the Apple of video games made me vote for them. Overpriced hardware and software, thinking they can get away with anything (and sadly so far, they totally can) etc... yeah, them.
I play on PC btw so I'm not pro anything, except well, PC, looking at this from an outside point of view.
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Deleted member 471617
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Nintendo.
Simply because their games aren't for me and thus, are of no interest. Plus, they are always decade behind in tech and way too gimmicky for me.
Simply because their games aren't for me and thus, are of no interest. Plus, they are always decade behind in tech and way too gimmicky for me.
MagnesG
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Ehh if anything Nintendo would be the last company to ever leave the console market.
Dr.brain64
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This is such a good thread. You can see who likes good games...
30yearsofhurt
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One of these companies brings nothing but astro-turfers to the table.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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MS is mostly an "also ran" at the moment.
Buying up publishers because you suck at fostering in-house talent is pretty shitty too.
Buying up publishers because you suck at fostering in-house talent is pretty shitty too.
Balducci30
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Uh if anything I'd want more competition not less
Esppiral
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I don't care about portability
alabtrosMyster
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No, it's a pile on thread!Sounds like a console war poll.
Makoto-Yuki
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Sony easily.
Keep Nintendo + Microsoft.
Keep Nintendo + Microsoft.
Rhazer Fusion
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The results will probably be the same on any gaming forum. Despite what people say about Sony, they have done things better than their competition and their sales reflect that. If I post a TLOU2 thread, Sonygaf will turn to Anti-Sonygaf.
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Rhazer Fusion
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I honestly don't think Microsoft is anymore consumer friendly than Sony is and if they are, it's because they have to be. Sony decimated them this generation and even Nintendo despite coming out much later, eventually passed them and are beating them even with overpriced hardware and software.
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SoraNoKuni
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The easiest choice of the century.
If Xbox vanishes... Nothing of value is lost.
If Xbox vanishes... Nothing of value is lost.
Ascend
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That's true for all of them.
If it wasn't for Xbox, we all would still be having an online service like Nintendo has today, if that. To me, it's actually harder to say what advantage Sony truly has over both Nintendo and Microsoft.
Sony has good exclusives, but so does Nintendo
Sony has strong hardware, but so does Microsoft
What else does Sony offer that the other two do not? Genuine question.
Phrixotrichus
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Definitely MS.
Would be 100% replaceable by PCs after all.
Would be 100% replaceable by PCs after all.
Trimesh
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Sony. Which is pretty sad to say since the PS2 is still my all-time favorite console, but the PS4 and the absolute torrent of lies and bullshit about the PS5 have really put me off them.
If I was getting rid of two companies and keeping one, I would keep Nintendo - because they seem to be the last one left that are actually about games.
If I was getting rid of two companies and keeping one, I would keep Nintendo - because they seem to be the last one left that are actually about games.
Rhazer Fusion
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From a consumer standpoint, quality games, worldwide appeal and exclusives is enough for them to dominate. They have the best of both worlds and they are the most balanced. Sony has a comparable features like their online infrastructure with Microsoft. Microsoft for most is weaker in exclusives and Nintendo is weaker in hardware.
Sony having both really gave them an advantage this generation. Admittedly, they don't necessarily have many more advantages over the competition, but the ones they have are strong and enough to carry them.
BattleScar
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Microsoft offer what they offer because they're behind in the console market. Everything they're doing is an aggressive play to win marketshare from the current incumbent; Sony.
If you think that Microsoft would be quite so magnanimous (irrespective of leadership) if their biggest competition and clear market leader; Sony, were not in the market, then I would say you're being hopelessly naive.
JCK75
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I don't , I think they are now and we are talking about now..
Sony needs a kick in the pants now so they can get back to the same level.
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