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[Arachnid]

Hidden Racist, Crouching Nazi

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Well to be totally fair there's this. Admittedly I bring it up because I literally worked with a Chinese guy who was from Jamaica. (Yes, he had a Jamaican accent.)

Totally agree. Never knew that till coworkers told me there was actually a big migration of Asians to the Caribbean way back. But still a big minority status compared to locals.

If a game came out starring a Chinese guy (or any Asian background) in the Caribbean (or Africa too), it would get ragged on as one part racist and one part pretty stupid. And it's not like it's a quirky indie game.

Every country will have a mix of people. Even if it's just 0.1%. But making a game out of it focusing on that tiny demographic is surely ripe for ridicule and laughs.

 

[cireza]

Hidden Racist, Crouching Nazi

 

[Dr Cowley]

"I'm not sure but I think this Tatooine place may not be real."

You're comparing Japan to tatooine?

 

[Honey Bunny]

If you question historical accuracy of a fictional game you are making something out of nothing and do not understand what historical accuracy means, especially when we are talking about a game where one dude kills dozens of dudes as he takes over outposts.

Is it racism? Maybe. Is it moronic to try to cite historical accuracy in this case? Yes. Was it a strange choice by Ubisoft to put a huge black dude in a a game set in feudal Japan? Absofuckinglutely. It's weird. Historical accuracy is only a piece of the weirdness.

Right, they're willing to accept a game where one dude kills dozens of dudes as he takes over outposts...but they can't accept a 2017 Ford Escape Crossover? Why are they so retarded?

 

[Guerilla Munch]

What's the goblin marxist narrative going to be when all of us racist misogynistic nazi incel transphobes throw our money at GTA6, whose main character is a woman of color?

 

[_Ex_]

Black protagonist in ancient Japan eating watermelons aside, how about this:

It's 2025 and we're still getting lazy shit like that in video games, come on developers.

 

[CGNoire]

I personly think that it was Retarded when Libs started complaining about a "White Protagonist Killin Black people in Africa" (RE5 2009) and think its equaly Retarded hearing Japanese and the anti-woke complaining about a "Black Man Killing Japanese in Japan". Both are completely Retarded and quite frankly Racist Accusations.

 

[R3TRO]

People play AC for historical accuracy?

I could've sworn I was fighting medusa in a recent AC lmao...

 

[peek]

That article still assumes its the year 2016. That guilt trip stuff dont work anymore o7

 

[genesisblock]

Make no mistake, I do agree with you. I hope I did not misrepresent my stance. My real goal was to show there was a right way to do it (SC) and a wrong way (AC) thank you for explaining it better than I could.

Don't worry. I got your post, this topic is so heated it might get construed. Appreciate for noticing the comparisons.

 

[Romulus]

Good thing they don't know the meaning of a racist.

 

[N30RYU]

Black protagonist in ancient Japan eating watermelons aside, how about this:

It's 2025 and we're still getting lazy shit like that in video games, come on developers.

Black indeed... have you seen the size of his gun?

 

[laynelane]

As someone who liked the series, I criticized it for the unpolished aspect - it appears to be way better now.

As a professionally trained historian, I criticized not the historical accuracy but the insane, annoying campaigh to present it as super accurate when it is clear that Yasuke as a historical figure existed but we know little about him. However, they hammered a scholar whose book is half fiction and called anyone pointing out the inconsistencies in the narrative a racist.

Agreed. People mock the whole "historically accurate" argument, but it was Ubisoft who introduced it. When they initially revealed the game, they claimed Yasuke was a real historical figure - a black samurai. Japan disagreed, historians disagreed, pretty much everyone disagreed except the one dude who published his fan fiction take on it (and was found to have altered Wikipedia entries under a pseudonym to support his fan fic) - then Ubi backed down on that angle, but have gone back and forth on it ever since. It was a sloppy attempt to rewrite another culture's history and it turns out people from many different cultures don't like that kind of behavior.

 

[riko]

Just have the non native protagonist chopping of the heads of native women, what could go wrong?

I wonder if they went the whole hog so you can do the same for children too?

Yea the imagery of a black dude murdering east asian women... only a few years after basically all of... that kind of violence that spawned the Stop Asian Hate campaign. Really nice Ubisoft.

But good thing a white they/them thinks people are racist to find this objectionable.

 

[Randall365]

Selfie mode off

 

[Pyral Phoenix]

Read the article.
The crux of it is that people blame game failures on whether they are woke/DEI or not, in this case the AC: Shadows is woke/DEI because one of the protagonists, who you dont have to play is Black.
Now lets just say Shadows actually sells well......we will stop hearing about Yasukes historical accuracy.......if it fails?
Thats the last time we get a Black protagonist from Ubisoft because its obviously his fault the game aint it.



And Baldurs Gate 3, Hades, Hogwartz, Undertale etc etc.
For every Go Woke Go Broke game theres a woke game that didnt fail but we just dont talk about how woke it is because it no longer fits the narrative.

Well, ubisoft has been making shitty games for almost 15 yrs now, still, they sell, if it failed, though I think AC is too big to fail, the would just blame the weak sales on the DEI shit, and still make another soulless game.
I just wish they listen.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Insinuating that someone is a hidden racist is actually the most racist thing of all.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If you question historical accuracy of a fictional game you are making something out of nothing and do not understand what historical accuracy means, especially when we are talking about a game where one dude kills dozens of dudes as he takes over outposts.

Is it racism? Maybe. Is it moronic to try to cite historical accuracy in this case? Yes. Was it a strange choice by Ubisoft to put a huge black dude in a a game set in feudal Japan? Absofuckinglutely. It's weird. Historical accuracy is only a piece of the weirdness.

Even dumber. Watch Skill Ups 5 hr playtest.

Yasuke is a samurai with gigantic front kicks bowling over enemies 50 ft.

Also, hey I'll admit I'm no fuedel japan expert, but I never knew samurais were known for running into walls and stone railings smashing them apart like a charging rhino. Skill Up would run for 5 ft with Yasuke and smash through stone structures. lol