Why Nintendo Is So Expensive | So Expensive | Business Insider

kazuyamishima said:
They keep saying that Nintendo is expensive whilst Demons Souls Remake and Miles Morales from 2020 alongside with most of Sony's first party catalogue still have their original MSRP.
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Demon's Souls can be found for significantly less than MSRP (lowest price was <$30). Not even accounting for the used market (which is honestly where you should be buying a lot of Nintendo and Sony products tbh as they both still put most if not all data on physical).
 
Spyxos said:
Yout get low end hardware for that 450. So not comparable.
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Getting ridiculous some of the posts on here now. It's outperforming the PC handheld market in practically every aspect with a much smaller footprint. Bundled with the dock that outputs at 4k and 2 controllers with haptics and mouse capabilities, with rapid SSD like memory and a 120fps VRR screen. You don't understand the market if you think that's low end.
 
Spyxos said:
I had a look at it too. But they also forget important things, sure the games were also expensive back then, but far fewer copies were sold. And they also don't mention that games are much more monetized these days(season passes and dlcs.)
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But Nintendo games really aren't. They don't often do DLC and their games (sans smash costumes) don't do microtransactions.
 
Nintendo needs a "Pass" like Microsoft. There's a lot of games to be played now, smh. I mean, we're were talking thousands and thousands of games. An "eShop Pass" would allow many people who otherwise cannot afford the rising cost of games, to play them.
 
Banjo64 said:
Getting ridiculous some of the posts on here now. It's outperforming the PC handheld market in practically every aspect with a much smaller footprint. Bundled with the dock that outputs at 4k and 2 controllers with haptics and mouse capabilities, with rapid SSD like memory and a 120fps VRR screen. You don't understand the market if you think that's low end.
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It's nice that you think so. And the comparison was with the consoles not with pc handhelds.
 
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People always react like Nintendo is a devil company because they never price drop their exclusives, instead other companies cut prices in half like a couple of months after release. But you really think they'd don't do the same if just they have a chance? Lol

Is not charity, Nintendo developed its positioning in the market like that and now can do it. Other don't. Is that simple.
 
Spyxos said:
It's nice that you think so. And the comparison was with the consoles not with pc handhelds.
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There's no comparative console to the Switch 2. The hardware is objectively good for £395.

It absolutely pummels the Series S at £300 and the PS Portal at £200 though if you want to stretch it.
 
Banjo64 said:
There's no comparative console to the Switch 2. The hardware is objectively good for £395.

It absolutely pummels the Series S at £300 and the PS Portal at £200 though if you want to stretch it.
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At that price, I compare it to the ps5. And even then it is cheaper. The console is simply too expensive
 
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Spyxos said:
At that price, I compare it to the ps5. And even then it is cheaper.
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PS5 digital RRP £429.

PS5 w/ disc drive RRP £479.

Switch 2 RRP £395.

I like my PS5. It's great. I'd be really interested to hear why the Switch 2 is low end hardware in comparison.
 
Is it?
Maybe for cheap ass gamers.

It's not targeting kids as much as it's targeting you old fools who grew up with it.
Nintendo knows you are all 30 and 40yo and working and earning big cash you cheap fools
 
KungFucius said:
Yup. Even used ones. I bought my kid BotW used for like 50 bucks so he can play the upgrade. I was one of the 4 people who bought it on WiiU because I resisted the Switch for like 6 months so I am paying 50 bucks for access to a game I bought 8 years ago for 60.
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I get your point that it's expensive to play first party games on the Switch, but Nintendo doesn't set used prices.

Players being able to resell their games at near full price can be seen as a positive for those that don't plan to hold those games for life, but obviously a major drawback for those just looking to buy and keep for good.
 
I seriously dont get how 450 dollars is too much for today's market.

Im clearly an exception to the complaining masses. I know there are plenty of us on here who feel the same so that's OK I guess
 
Cause in someone's head from the headquarters thinks doing that to secure a huge number of consumers in the eco system no matter who they're is better than flopping. That's basically saying Nintendo is dirtying their hands as PC & Mobile to secure their place in the industry, that's way different approach than what they did with the original Wii.
 
Nintendo does what the market allows them to do. Are Nintendo fanboys retarded? Yes. Is Nintendo evil for exploiting the retarded fanboys? Well, maybe, but so does every company. Companies are not your friends, they have no moral, no ethics, no empathy. They only way to change something is voting with your wallet. As long as retarded Nintendo fanboys are willing to pay the extra buck, let them.
I for myself, only buy Nintendo hardware and software used. They won't get a direct sell from me.
 
It remains to be seen whether the Switch 2 will have the same reach with the mass market. Anecdotally, I know several casual fans who've told me they're not intending to get a Switch 2 due to the price. I guess we'll see in the long run.
 
seething left said:
Nintendo does what the market allows them to do. Are Nintendo fanboys retarded? Yes. Is Nintendo evil for exploiting the retarded fanboys? Well, maybe, but so does every company. Companies are not your friends, they have no moral, no ethics, no empathy. They only way to change something is voting with your wallet. As long as retarded Nintendo fanboys are willing to pay the extra buck, let them.
I for myself, only buy Nintendo hardware and software used. They won't get a direct sell from me.
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Get over it. The core Nintendo fans would not get a console to 150 million plus units sold. Seriously what planet are you from if you think it's Nintendo die hard fans that are driving any of this. The mass market obviously recognises more value in things than you do. It's more salt whenever Nintendo are doing well. No wonder members on here loved the Wii U and GameCube lol...
 
marjo said:
It remains to be seen whether the Switch 2 will have the same reach with the mass market. Anecdotally, I know several casual fans who've told me they're not intending to get a Switch 2 due to the price. I guess we'll see in the long run.
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That's the problem with anecdotes. They are rarely an indicator for either success or failure
 
One of the best things Nintendo has done, at least business wise, is leveraging their historical relevance and big established fanbase to manage and set the right expectations among customers.
While most of the industry got their customers used to games that have to continuously increase their production values and also go on sale frequently, Nintendo went in a different direction. It might have been a gamble at first but now they have a big established audience that doesn't mind the lack of sales and doesn't demand cutting edge graphics, because Nintendo never set those expectations.

Meanwhile the rest of the industry has basically fostered a "just wait for a sale" mentality (which I'm absolutely a part of lol) with people that will throw a tantrum if Kratos gets on a boat with the same animation as in the previous games.
 
Trilobit said:
I checked with ChatGPT about the ports on Switch 2:

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I hope Nintendo never goes full Apple. It's so nice to have actual ports and not just USB-C stuff that require dongles galore.
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Give Nintendo time, now that they know that ppl are OK paying for demos things may change.
 
Banjo64 said:
There's no comparative console to the Switch 2. The hardware is objectively good for £395.

It absolutely pummels the Series S at £300 and the PS Portal at £200 though if you want to stretch it.
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What? The Series S is over twice as powerful and comes with more storage, and more games that take advantage of it's power.
 
If console sales slow they'll do a 3DS and drop the price. We don't yet know if it is too expensive for the market to sustain it.
 
Fbh said:
One of the best things Nintendo has done, at least business wise, is leveraging their historical relevance and big established fanbase to manage and set the right expectations among customers.
While most of the industry got their customers used to games that have to continuously increase their production values and also go on sale frequently, Nintendo went in a different direction. It might have been a gamble at first but now they have a big established audience that doesn't mind the lack of sales and doesn't demand cutting edge graphics, because Nintendo never set those expectations.

Meanwhile the rest of the industry has basically fostered a "just wait for a sale" mentality (which I'm absolutely a part of lol) with people that will throw a tantrum if Kratos gets on a boat with the same animation as in the previous games.
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Yeah except Nintendo's handheld lineup is fairly cutting edge graphics wise (for a handheld.) Production values for their handheld games have always gone in one direction. And Switch 2 is just their latest handheld.

The rest of the industry also got all the folks who do buy day one used to paying full price for buggy unfinished games. And their fans praise them when they take take 2 years to fix and finish the game. Which is rather like praising people for quitting drugs. It's nice, but never should have been doing the drugs in the first place. It's not an accomplishment.
 
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This argument about development costs is kind of ridiculous when it comes to Nintendo.

The graphics quality, aside from the resolution and frame rate, still looks GameCube-level. The character models and many other assets are definitely not expensive. They're just trying to ride the wave of saying game development is so expensive that they need to raise prices.
 
This has always been the case for Nintendo. It's goofy people are acting surprised. People buy Nintendo's systems for Nintendo's games. They know you'll pay a premium. Might as well buy day 1 because you're not getting a discount on that game any time in the next few years either. Easily predictable lockdown inflation is a suitable justification for going to $80.
 
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Obviously, its because the ROM inside the new Mario Kart cartridge is just unbelievably soooooooo expensive. Lets see how that explanation lands with the public, right. Oh and dont forget to say "thank you" in a suit. Always good to look sharp when serving nonsense. I shoud give a try...

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ADiTAR said:
It may not be to your liking. But people have worked on it, developed it, and Nintendo put money on it. They see the need to turn a profit on that, that's a business decision.
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When Sony gave you an entire game free preloaded on the PS5 sold at a loss, charging $10 for a welcome tour on a high markup Switch 2 is nickle and diming, sorry but there is no excuse.
 
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tr1p1ex said:
Switch didn't have a pack in game.
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Exactly and neither does Switch 2. point is that trying to charge $10 for this crap flash web looking "game" that introduces you to the hardware is a poor excuse:



Especially when you look at Astro's Playroom on PS5 that was given free on a product they made a loss on.
 
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Three said:
Exactly and neither does Switch 2.
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Exactly. And Switch did great sales wise. You don't have to buy every Nintendo game if you don't want to.

PS4 didn't include a pack in game either. Nor did PS3. NOr PS2. Nor PS1. iirc.

Were you hurt by any of those unfortunate situations as well?
 
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saintjules said:
Cite some sources please that shows this.
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No problems dude.

GG.Deals doesn't just track Steam game pricing, it also tracks all the console stores too, the all-time low for Demon Souls on the PSN store was $29.39 a mere 2 weeks ago.

Just go to this page and select the "historical low" tab to see it.

Also keep in mind that this is digital (and the sale has ended), you can find it physically on Amazon for $29.83 right now.
 
tr1p1ex said:
Exactly. And Switch did great sales wise. You don't have to buy every Nintendo game if you don't want to.

PS4 didn't include a pack in game either. Nor did PS3. NOr PS2. Nor PS1. iirc.

Were you hurt by any of those unfortunate situations as well?
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No, I'm not saying they are not going to sell because of this nor that you have to buy anything. We're talking about Nintendo being expensive and I was just replying to somebody who had a poor excuse that "it cost money to make they have to make profit" for charging for that crap. I merely mentioned that despite PS5 selling at a loss they gave a free higher budget game that introduced you to the hardware. Nintendo on the other hand have high profits and still nickle and dime with a $10 welcome tour that looks like a free web game.
 
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